Another "I can't breath" death: Police Reform & Protests in the USA

[Lenonis]

They are trying to push it as retaliation from "the left" for Rittenhouse.

Gonna be a tough sell when fox news is talking about how he supported Hitler. Antisemitism and support of Hitler is a right wing stance.

[Yadryonych]

We'll see.

Nah, they will deny evident truth because their party told them so. Rittenhouse is still guilty in their imaginary world

[Lenonis]

Will it still be "absolutely fucking disgusting" if it all turns out to be true?

You need to get your updated talking points. This one is already over.

[Orange Joe]

Will it still be "absolutely fucking disgusting" if it all turns out to be true? The thing I've noticed over the years is that while the Left sure can dish it out, they can NOT take it. MMO-C is but a small microcosm of the greater Left and they tend to self-destruct in the face of facts that don't jive with their narrative... hence some of the responses here.

Even if THAT SINGLE PERSON did it as retaliation. it's not retaliation from the left. It's a sick person who needs to be locked away for a long time.

[Xyonai]

IMO the "bad faith" is on the side of those who want to misinform, deflect and move on from the story of the Waukesha massacre.

Because the story itself doesn't have to do with the intent of the thread. The reason we were on the Rittenhouse trial and verdict was because the shooting involved a BLM protest and BLM members, as well as other trials and stories involving unarmed or otherwise non-threatening persons suffering under an unjust police or legal system.

Brookes was a dumb cunt with a rap sheet that drove into a crowed of people in a botched getaway after stabbing someone and being let out on a far too lenient bond, and if you really want to talk about it you can make a thread about it as we usually do for tragic news stories of this nature an scale.

And I'm only confident in saying it's a bad faith discussion because you and the other two people harping on about this only decided to join this thread to A: Gloat about the Rittenhouse Acquittal and B: Concern Troll over this tragedy. Nothing about any of the other victims of police violence who I'd imagine should also garner sympathy that you just-so-happened to not show until you could lord this massacre over other's heads to prove some point. In essence; just using the victims as a soapbox to decry your political opponents, and that's fucking disgusting.

[Lenonis]

Nah, they will deny evident truth because their party told them so. Rittenhouse is still guilty in their imaginary world

I'm not sure you should be talking about denying evident truth. Perhaps you'd like to tell us about rampant election fraud? Or about how covid is fake? Maybe more about how dangerous the covid vaccine are? What about baby eating democrats?

No?

[Endus]

Are you sure? Because the meat and potatoes of the post was in the article...

Which makes no mention of any political activity by the accused, no political motives, nothing that would support your repeated bullshitting about "the Left".

Nobody has defended that attack. Every bit of evidence indicates it's a career criminal who got close to the parade route, was confronted by cops to turn him back, and reacted appallingly thinking they were after him, specifically. There's nothing political to this tragedy. No support for the accused, no justifications offered for his actions, nothing. You're making that shit up.

He deserves to never see the outside of a cell for the rest of his life. That's not a difficult thing to say, because there's no political agenda here, despite you desperately trying to manufacture one.

It's also off topic, since there's nothing about it that has anything to do with police abuses of power or the protests around them.

IMO the "bad faith" is on the side of those who want to misinform, deflect and move on from the story of the Waukesha massacre.

Which thus far is literally just you.

[Orange Joe]

Nah, they will deny evident truth because their party told them so. Rittenhouse is still guilty in their imaginary world

And in your world Casey Anthony and OJ had absolutely nothing to do with the people they were charged with killing right?

Or can you not admit that juries can be wrong?

[Cthulhu 2020]

I was exaggerating for effect...the video was clearly of such a shit quality it offered nothing in terms of evidence one way or the other. It also isn't a fact kyle did anything the eight pixels on the enchanced video don't show anything not even what would of been across from kyle when its claimed he raised his rifle. You can't just make things up in court.

Even given that insane benefit to the doubt needed to believe that happened how does it transfer over 20 minutes later to his other attackers? I haven't seen any claim by kyle during the trial of him pointing his weapon at anyone baring the guy who drew on him. Do you remember what day of the trial you heard it on or during what testimony I can check later.

As for you last point. I believe that almost everyone who deserved to get shot there got shoot barring jump kick man.

The video showed that he pointed his rifle at the men before they engaged him in conflict. Kyle admitted to pointing his gun at them first.

Stop making shit up. That you're saying "You can't make things up in court" is hilarious.

As for you last point. I believe that almost everyone who deserved to get shot there got shoot barring jump kick man.

Ah yes, vigilante justice. "They committed a crime previously, and even though they served out their punishment, they should have been killed anyway"

Vigilante justice is illegal for a reason. But thanks for admitted you hate the constitution I guess.

[Yetanothernewbie]

Will it still be "absolutely fucking disgusting" if it all turns out to be true? The thing I've noticed over the years is that while the Left sure can dish it out, they can NOT take it. MMO-C is but a small microcosm of the greater Left and they tend to self-destruct in the face of facts that don't jive with their narrative... hence some of the responses here.

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We'll see.

You are a flat-earther bud. Your opinion on anything and everything can be disregarded on that fact alone.

[Cthulhu 2020]

I think it is more telling why something like that would appeal to people...why are people flocking to Militias and extremists groups to protect them from the fiery but mostly peaceful protestors?

The kid gloves need to come off and police have to start using a show of force when these protests devolve into rioting.

Tucker Carlson, Andy Ngo, Tim Poole, and other grifters are painting mostly peaceful protests as riots that are burning down entire cities. Which do you think conservatives are going to believe, their messiahs and idols or the real world?

[sircaw]

Tucker Carlson, Andy Ngo, Tim Poole, and other grifters are painting mostly peaceful protests as riots that are burning down entire cities. Which do you think conservatives are going to believe, their messiahs and idols or the real world?

how much in damages did the Kenosha riots cost?, for mainly peaceful protests it must be pretty low.

[Endus]

how much in damages did the Kenosha riots cost?, for mainly peaceful protests it must be pretty low.

"Hey, rather than considering the overall trend in protests, what if we only look at the worst possible outlier and pretend that it's representative"?

You're being unreasonable and disingenuous.

[sircaw]

"Hey, rather than considering the overall trend in protests, what if we only look at the worst possible outlier and pretend that it's representative"?

You're being unreasonable and disingenuous.

its a simple question, why deflect?

businesses got burnt down, people loosing there livelihoods and you come in the unreasonable and disengenous.

[Orange Joe]

its a simple question, why deflect?

How much was it vs an actual riot like the LA riots?

[sircaw]

How much was it vs an actual riot like the LA riots?

moving the goalposts i see.

[Orange Joe]

moving the goalposts i see.

its a simple question, why deflect?

[PhaelixWW]

how much in damages did the Kenosha riots cost?, for mainly peaceful protests it must be pretty low.

WaPo: This summer’s Black Lives Matter protesters were overwhelmingly peaceful, our research finds.

In short, our data suggest that 96.3 percent of events involved no property damage or police injuries

[Endus]

its a simple question, why deflect?

businesses got burnt down, people loosing there livelihoods and you come in the unreasonable and disengenous.

Because it was a deliberately dishonest question, and I'm not going to entertain that kind of willful dishonesty, trying to shift goalposts and cloaking that attempt.

[s_bushido]

how much in damages did the Kenosha riots cost?, for mainly peaceful protests it must be pretty low.

Weather systems not strong enough to graduate from a tropical storm to a hurricane can cause hundreds of millions of dollars in damage. And yet shitheads on Fox (or wherever else you consume your preferred right-wing propaganda) aren't out there talking about "cities being destroyed" whenever hurricane season kicks off.

The best part is, if you want to save a city the ~$50 million in damage the "riots" cause, you can simply improve policing to the point where they aren't routinely trying to murder citizens. If only preventing hurricane damage was so easy.