[Movie] Fantastic Beasts 3: The Secrets of Dumbledore

[bledgor]

Thats you. The more she spouts stupidity the less interest I have in her work. I actually tried to defend her til her latest round of stupidity.

And by that same token thats you. I just think you vastly overestimate the amount of people who care about anything posted on twitter.

Also unless the author/creator is actively hurting people (see Chris Brown the giant piece of shit that should be in jail) I tend to disassociate the product from the creator. I know a few novels I have enjoyed where the author comes out and says some stupid shit, but rather than allow that to ruin the book I just forget about who created it.

Whole concept is a miss mash of ideas.

Fantastic beasts and where to find them should have been a TV series actually about you know....beasts. And where to find them.

These films clearly just wanna explore dumbledores past with his estranged lover and they could have made something interesting with that with darker themes. Instead they weirdly combined the two

Also this, like I said I enjoyed the first one when it was mostly about beasts, the 2nd one with all the drama was meh. Separate the two and you can have two successful movies/shows.

[everydaygamer]

Sucks to see Depp gone but I kind of hope they lean into this idea of Grindelwald being played by a different actor in every film since they unintentionally set up the idea in the first film.

[Orange Joe]

No, I mean that I don't get the way YOU think, because it doesnt work that way in reality.

I'm not the one that pulled her name am I? I mean I agree with them but I didn't a make the choice.

[Thelxi]

I'm excited for this. JK might've decided to dramatically die on the TERF hill while spouting reddit/4chan level bullshit, pissing off twitter and inadvertently greenlighting hateful behavior from idiots and fascist edgelords, but that doesn't mean she isn't still a great writer that has touched generations and generated many billions. All she really killed was whatever future she had in actual activism and charity, not her movie/money making or writing potential.

[Syegfryed]

Also, im excited to see other schols of magic, especially the Brazilian one.

Still feels this movie had lot of potential wasted, if they rly wanted to focus on Grindewald.

The Fantastic Beasts movies have a much better aesthetic than the Harry Potter ones in my opinion.

There's something about 1920s suave fellas in long coats and femme fatales that just works with wizards and wands.

it was also way better in the CGI scene, that improved a lot since the old movies, when i want to see HP movie i want to see magic, spells or whatever.

The aesthetic i agree its amazing

[korijenkins]

I dont get this idea that somehow a tiny minority will kill her brand or whatever, cause it doesn't. Truth is kids and their parents and most of us growing up with it loves the Harry Potter world, and gives both her and WB a lot of money regardless.

It wont change anything but discrediting her for the world she made. Its stupidity at its finest.

She Who Must Not Be Named.

Tiny minorities are amplified thanks to social media. Just to create a hypothetical, if there are only 100,000 people mad at you out of millions, but 90k are yelling at you, it looks like much more backlash than there really is.

[Swnem]

Yeah, not gonna get into it, but i'm not gonna watch it. It's not wether i liked Johnny as Grindelwald, but just the principle of not rewarding domestic abusers.
Not watching aquaman 2 in the same principle.

[Steelangel]

Given that Rowling IS actively harming people

Tweets and opinions don't harm people.
The definition of "harm" in the online space is so maximalized in scope but minimized in application as to be nearly ubiquitous yet effectively meaningless.

The entirety of gender-critical thought has been demonized based on the insinuation of its existence not based on the content of the argument, because it's not allowed to make that argument without being shouted down by those who profit from its silence. She-who-must-not-be-named, indeed.

[Tyrathius]

dude wanted to basically control the world and rule the muggles(from what i recall) as well have the death hallows, Eccentric is THE word for him and thats why Deep fit like a glove.

His characterization now is too different, from what is saw on the trailer, he look just like a random guy on the ministry

Grindelwald's whole thing is that he's a charismatic, silver-tongued deceiver who can talk anybody into anything. It's why he was able to blind Dumbledore to how horrible he really was for so long, and why he was somehow able to convince Queenie that siding with the guy who wants to conquer the muggles would somehow help her get with her muggle boyfriend.

"Eccentric" is not a word I would use to describe him. People should look at him and think he's an amazing guy, not a weirdo.

[bledgor]

Given that Rowling IS actively harming people I don't plan on spending another cent on any HP product until she passes and can no longer benefit from my money nor use it to propagate her harmful activities.

Boycotts are not typically very successful but our principles and the lives of those we care about are more important to my wife and I than a couple of hours of silly entertainment.

... I remember a time when sticks and stones broke bones but words never hurt me. She isn't out there beating people, she isn't assaulting people, she isn't actively harming people. Stop trying to force something that isn't true.

[Syegfryed]

Grindelwald's whole thing is that he's a charismatic, silver-tongued deceiver who can talk anybody into anything. It's why he was able to blind Dumbledore to how horrible he really was for so long, and why he was somehow able to convince Queenie that siding with the guy who wants to conquer the muggles would somehow help her get with her muggle boyfriend.

"Eccentric" is not a word I would use to describe him. People should look at him and think he's an amazing guy, not a weirdo.

eccentric does not mean a weirdo, and some people can look fine in the outside but still be sociopaths inside. His search for the death hallows and search for power def make him more eccentric than just a normal dude, thats why Deep fit so well.

[Mhyroth]

People crying over Mads being the new Grindelwald without having see him play baffles me.
Mads is a terrific actor, if you've seen Hannibal you know.

[Shadowferal]

Grindelwald's whole thing is that he's a charismatic, silver-tongued deceiver who can talk anybody into anything. It's why he was able to blind Dumbledore to how horrible he really was for so long, and why he was somehow able to convince Queenie that siding with the guy who wants to conquer the muggles would somehow help her get with her muggle boyfriend.
"Eccentric" is not a word I would use to describe him. People should look at him and think he's an amazing guy, not a weirdo.

Can't overlook the fact that Dumbledore was very much alone and wanted someone he could see as an equal for a partner-for-life.

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People crying over Mads being the new Grindelwald without having see him play baffles me. Mads is a terrific actor, if you've seen Hannibal you know.

I agree. He'll get the job done.

[Syegfryed]

People crying over Mads being the new Grindelwald without having see him play baffles me.
Mads is a terrific actor, if you've seen Hannibal you know.

no one is crying about it, everyone knows he is great, preffering other actor, who, we think fit more isn't crying or saying the new dude is shit.

[bledgor]

That was never true.

If it were true, then what Joseph Goebbels did would have been no big deal.

But every single politician in the history of humanity recognizes the destructive power of propaganda.

Are you really trying to take the stand that the tweets of Rowling are as bad as Chris Brown literally beating Rihanna or the various other shitty things he did? Or R Kelly, I really didn't want to even give him the acknowledgment in a post the fucking scum bag. Those people actively harmed people, not sorry you won't convince me that Rowling is even in the same state as those scumbags.

[eschatological]

WARNING: This isn't a subforum for discussing the psychological harm of Ms. Rowling's words. Take it to GenOT and keep this thread on topic.

[Shadowferal]

I shall be looking forward to seeing what Madds can do with the role. If directed well enough I suspect we'll feel kinda sorry for Dumbledore.

[bledgor]

Yes, she's worse because those people harmed just one other person, Rowling is causing harm to incredible numbers of people. Trans folk, particularly trans women of color, are one of the most highly targeted groups of people on the planet when it comes to violence. And it all starts with the dehumanization of these folk by people like Rowling.

Chris Brown is a dirtbag, but no more than any other dirtbag man who beats his wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend. Rowling is encouraging violence against an entire class of people.

You are actually saying that someones words that aren't even actively encouraging violence are as bad as someone who beat several people, and R Kelly who had like 14 counts of sexual assault, child trafficking, child porn, etc. Please escape twitter and actively engage with actual humans.

On topic I like Mads, he makes a terrific villain in all his movies, but at the same time I think Depp did a fine job with the role cast. It really was a case of the story being a clusterfuck of different threads as a premise that made the second one meh. I guess if they just cast someone new for each movie that works, but all the same either make them a separate story or stop calling it Fantastic Beasts.

Infracted.

[Doffen]

People crying over Mads being the new Grindelwald without having see him play baffles me.
Mads is a terrific actor, if you've seen Hannibal you know.

Yeah, Mikkelsen will do great.

In fact, he got the looks of someone who will do harm (as Grindelwald, not harm to the movie, hoho) more than Depp or any other.

Very good choice in cast imo.

[Tonkaden]

Thats you. The more she spouts stupidity the less interest I have in her work. I actually tried to defend her til her latest round of stupidity.

TBH, no one cares if you are going to see Harry Potter movies or read her books. No one cares if you tried to defend her or hate her. Stand on that soap box and scream out loud bro! The other 4-5 people enraged will hear you im sure.

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Yeah, Mikkelsen will do great.

In fact, he got the looks of someone who will do harm (as Grindelwald, not harm to the movie, hoho) more than Depp or any other.

Very good choice in cast imo.

Agreed. I recently re-watched the Craig bond movies and I loved his character in Casino Royale. He will do just fine.