The biggest problem with Vrykul is the height and similarities to regular humans. Kul Tirans have the fat body type schtick/naval culture and Kyrian have their own culture/aesthetic while both are slightly bigger humans. (Kyrians are also more slender than regular Human men/more buff than regular Human women, providing them with another body type)
I think Blizz is really just restricted by Vrykul height.
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That's possible, but again it is odd that they are basically revealing everything that happens with Sylvanas and Tyrande. Arthas being encrypted makes sense though. Zovaal's plan is basically spelled out (drain Azeroth to power machine to unmake everything), only things left to be shown are his motivation and why he targets Azeroth specifically. Him having a Heart of Azeroth knockoff is VERY strange.
Basically the only things encrypted are Arthas and the very very end of Zovaal's story (except his death, we've seen his corpse)
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They are hardly revealing anything though. We have several unconnected pieces of the puzzle that we assume we understand correctly. In this case the name of the final quest "Judgment", Sylvanas' voicelines regarding accepting said judgment and talks of wanting to find Nathanos, and now this animation of her jumping off something.
Yes, it certainly doesnt take a genius to piece the bits together into something coherent, but that is very much a different case from Blizzard revealing Pelagos' new model, or if they had a model for Arthas we didnt see.
If the judgment cinematic had been a proper prerendered one then we wouldnt know much of anything regarding this except maybe Sylvanas accepting Judgment and the name of the quest. Which is quite different from the myriad voicelines and evidence that Pelagos becomes the new Arbiter, from reforging the helmet, and his voicelines talking about becoming the Arbiter directly.
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That makes absolutely no sense.
If they've given up on Shadowlands and 9.2 being successful, there'd be no reason to drip feed bits of animation or dialogue to get people to care about the brand. People who don't care about an entire content patch aren't going to be invested in a jumping animation. There's no appreciable gain in generating hype that way.
If they'd given up on Shadowlands/9.2 and wanted to drip feed leaks to get people to care about the brand, they'd be putting in little bits of 10.0 assets into each build. A grass asset, a weapon texture, a random string referring to quest completion progress a subzone not in Zereth Mortis. Tweet out concept art for an armor piece. Not individual bits of Sylvanas' fate, a thing that is wholly Shadowlands/9.2
People can be invested in Warcraft without playing the game. A ton of people aren't playing right now but absolutely want to keep up with the story. Drip feeding what happens to Sylvanas keeps people talking about the franchise without necessarily advertising the patch. Sylvanas extends beyond Shadowlands: Zovaal, Pelagos and the First Ones do not, so they don't care about just dropping that stuff into the files.
They don't have to hint at 10.0, in fact them utterly refusing to do so implies they want a big reveal for it. But dripfeeding the Sylvanas story keeps people that may not be playing the game or may not have any interest in Zereth Mortis talking about Tyrande, Sylvanas and everything related to them.
I see more Zovaal complaining then anything related to Sylvanas(Except maybe wanting her accounted for that is). Also they hardly ever hide the story away(They should but not for the reasons said here).
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Leader of the post-Jailer mawsworn is fitting.
Putting a single person in charge of rescuing all the people wrongfully sent to the maw is pretty stupid though. Shouldn't the new Arbiter be in charge of fixing that?
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I would have thought they put a big sign in Danuser's office that said "Stop killing off or banishing Warcraft 3 characters: They're the only wow characters people actually like" but apparently not.
Still, my point of that being a single-person's job remains: I mean, we killed Argus, not Sylvanas. You'd think the Eternal ones could help with that.
Though I do think it would be funny if takes less than one expansion for Sylvanas to clean up the Maw & is back on Azeroth by 2024.
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The PTR is a form of promotion but it's only a byproduct. "drip feed bits of animation or dialog" is just the result of testing the game as cheaply as possible.
It's more telling that they're uploading spoilers to the PTR with zero effort to hide them behind encryption. And they can't just give up on the story entirely because these things were being created up to a full year ago. You all here seem to think the turnaround for game assets is much shorter than they are in reality.
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Nothing too crazy and while also not boring. However most correct leaks only have a few points. The part "the warlock trainer will have some people flipping out" is interesting. Who could that be?
Sounds cool but I don't buy it.
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I always assumed it's leaked by grunt workers at the expo catching a rehearsal if the announcement.
Few if any pictures, extremely limited in scope, written probably from memory when the worker gets back to his phone, the info being presented similar, if not exactly the same as the power point bulletpoints.
Someone working part-time or otherwise in an expo center probably doesn't have much reason to respect a stringent NDA like what a full-time developer or similar would. Nowhere near the same risk or consequence.
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sounds really.. boring for my taste.
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Both are not very good arguments these days anymore. Height was always the main argument naysayers off vrykul were saying back in 2008, but after seeing other tribes of Vrykul with sizes simmilar to zandalari or slighty bigger making it a non issue. They have always used 2 completely unique models both male and female, with unique animations which imany new or old races can't say. You know after stormheim, explaining and exploring more about other Vrykul tribes is actually very interesting.
On topic of being to human.. I mean we have skinny human and maldraxxus brutes requests .. Vrykul.. I mean.. have had their own kit/props/buildings/models/animations armor wearable for some time now and even go pretty far in lore for the one who likes it. Hell they have been requested since Wrath and are in fact one of the more coheisive and all arround fleshed out races out there. They have only but shown hostile towards us untill Legion. They are part of requests like walrus people or Ogres. Kyrian have always been nothing but rekins female vrykul who got shrunken down and painted blue. If I have to think about Kul Tiran or Vrykul, I am like.. where did it go wrong??
Don't forget that.. we got a literal copy of blood elves instead of broken or Vrykul back in Legion. We got almost all races assosiated with the reputations that became playable except they suddenly changed and asspulled the void elves in, I will be forever salty about that fucking lame addition. Either Broken or Vrykul would have been so much better imo. ...If you complain about being to close to the human model.. then please open your eyes, cus Kyrian or skinny humans look closer to regular humans, then Vrykul ever did and besides.. allied races made more things possible as well. I mean if you would say.. highmountain look to close to tauren then.. you might have a point..
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I buy that about as much as most leaks, which is not at all. Still though, it does sound decent. The Black Dragon race is largely how I imagine a Dragonsworn class could best work, with all races open that have dragon-style enhancements and/or dragon forms. World shaping could be a cool way to have long term investment in a zone, similar to how Isle of Thunder worked back in MoP.
I doubt this is it, but I'd enjoy an expansion similar to this.
Don't misunderstand this as me defending Blizz here, locking Conduits/2 x lego behind rep grinds is dumb af and basically does lock player power behind a grind in Zereth Mortis.
But TECHNICALLY those aren't locked behind the Cypher system itself, no? So Blizzard teeeeeeeechnically didn't lie.
Just a weird coincidence that I'm guessing most rep grinds will also be connected to the Cypher system, woopsiewaddayaknow.
They didn't tell the truth with a technicality, they told the truth exactly as we see it now. The ZM cypher system is so far completely free of player power, which is indeed exactly what Blizzard said it would be.
Blizzard never actually said ZM open world would be irrelevant to player power, players did after misunderstanding the interview about the cypher system.
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