2021-2022 NFL Thread

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Well the Giants just hired the Bills AGM, which is why Daboll and Frazier are both linked to the NYG now. They literally were interviewed the day after Schoen was hired.

I just can't imagine accepting Jones as your QB.

Yeah that's the only reason I'm leaving the door open for if the new GM wants to cut bait on Jones maybe.

But like you I can't imagine Daboll tying his coaching shot to a QB everyone can see isn't it.

[Coniferous]

Dude, your argument is that Mike Glennon couldn't push the needle for the Giants. Yeah, cause Mike Glennon sucks. That doesn't mean Jones doesn't suck either.

That's not my argument. My argument is that Mike Glennon's stats were disastrous with the Giants despite being a relatively competent backup before this year. Daniel Jones was way, way better than Glennon this year. The argument is that Glennon's performance illustrates how difficult a situation Jones was in this year, because Glennon was way worse with the Giants than ever before, on many other bad teams.

I'm not saying you pay him a huge contract, but there's really not much harm in giving him one more year, and using your draft capital on other gaping holes in the roster (right tackle, right guard, center, left guard).

[MCMLXXXII]

After a tied OT just take one man off the pitch from every team every other minute, that would make things interesting and entertaining.

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As an outsider, the problem is the 2 conferences. Arguably, after seeing this year's playoffs, both the Bills and KC belong in the Super Bowl. Due to the conferences that will never happen.

[PhaelixWW]

After a tied OT just take one man off the pitch from every team every other minute, that would make things interesting and entertaining.

Doesn't really work with US football. There are things like legal formations and other rules that would start getting very messed up.

[MCMLXXXII]

Doesn't really work with US football. There are things like legal formations and other rules that would start getting very messed up.

I know but you have to come up with something. In football/soccer they quickly abandoned the Golden goal rule because they found it unfair. And that's a game that goes up and down in possession unlike US football. Even in Rugby, which we can compare a bit to US football, they'll play extra time with 2 5 minute halves. After that it's a shootout. That might work in football too. First kick from 20 yard line, then 30 then 40 etc. First to miss loses.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

After a tied OT just take one man off the pitch from every team every other minute, that would make things interesting and entertaining.

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As an outsider, the problem is the 2 conferences. Arguably, after seeing this year's playoffs, both the Bills and KC belong in the Super Bowl. Due to the conferences that will never happen.

Heck after one OT just go to a FG duel from increasing 5 yard distances.

[PhaelixWW]

Heck after one OT just go to a FG duel from increasing 5 yard distances.

I can't decide whether I find the idea of a special teams shootout appalling or appealing, to be honest.

I mean, it kinda makes sense after 5 stalemate quarters of mostly offense/defense. And it's not like special teams don't quite often decide a game at the very end; heck, we had three of them this weekend. Four, if you include the last-second tie as at least a partial game-deciding moment in the last game.

Poor kickers would get tired quick. Maybe you could choose either a PAT or 2PC attempt, depending on which you thought was more likely to be successful, though that would likely be a PAT 99% of the time, unless your kicker was hurt.

[MrUnit]

Looked at the TV channel: Pro7 Maxx yesterday.

I missed the beginning, does anyone know if there was a memorial ceremony for the deceased NFL Madden?

[cuafpr]

just copy college... each team gets a chance, after one (or two) OT's each team must go for 2 point conversions. the current method doesn't make defense matter, it makes offense matter cause if you can get that TD you win bam done. A pick/scoop 6 could still end the game meaning defense could seal it faster than either offense.

[Tech614]

Not interested in any FG duels or having players forced into another 30+ plays just for the sake of it. If they want to change OT rules then skip straight to the 2 point shoot out college does after 2nd OT, otherwise leave it as is. I question how many people actually played football if they expect those defensive players to keep going out last night until someone screws up. Sounds like a good way to kill a season and beat your team the hell up, good luck winning the AFC Championship to any defense that would come out of that mess people apparently wanted.

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As an outsider, the problem is the 2 conferences. Arguably, after seeing this year's playoffs, both the Bills and KC belong in the Super Bowl. Due to the conferences that will never happen.

Bills and Chiefs weren't even the top 2 seeds in their conference, they both lost to the Titans so forgive me if I say this is a laughable take. Both offenses played historically great games, that doesn't mean both of those teams belong in the super bowl. Hell the chiefs could very well win the super bowl but it's not even close to a sure thing because winning 2 super bowls in 3 years is incredibly unlikely unless your name is Tom Brady.

[muto]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a playoffs where all 8 divisional round teams were so evenly matched. All 4 games ended regulation in a field goal. At this point I think it’s a coin flip who wins the Super Bowl.

[Northern Goblin]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a playoffs where all 8 divisional round teams were so evenly matched. All 4 games ended regulation in a field goal. At this point I think it’s a coin flip who wins the Super Bowl.

It will be if it goes to overtime.


Too soon?

[downnola]

Bills and Chiefs weren't even the top 2 seeds in their conference, they both lost to the Titans so forgive me if I say this is a laughable take. Both offenses played historically great games, that doesn't mean both of those teams belong in the super bowl. Hell the chiefs could very well win the super bowl but it's not even close to a sure thing because winning 2 super bowls in 3 years is incredibly unlikely unless your name is Tom Brady.

That take is laughable, but I don't think anyone really buys that the Titans were a true first seed team. Yeah, that's how it worked out after the season ended but Tannehill is Goff tier and we all know it.

And the Chiefs should probably be favored to win every year as long as Reid is HC and Mahomes is QBing for them. This is an offensive centric league and there is none better than KC. Mahomes put them in FG range with 13 seconds left. It took less time for him to tie the game than it took for Dak's QB draw play vs SF.

[Tech614]

Chiefs were #2 and remind us where the Titans are right now, I can’t remember. KC has made the AFC championship 4 years in a row. They’re obviously a great team.

This would be an amazing counter argument if I was trying to debate the Chiefs weren't a great team. Unfortunately I wasn't.

Dude claimed Chiefs and Bills both deserved to be in the super bowl. They didn't even earn the right to both be in the AFC Championship game because they both lost to the titans. That is the reality. This has nothing to do with the Chiefs being a great team or not, but everything to do with his take being incredibly silly.

[MCMLXXXII]

You can find it silly but the playoffs are all that matters. Sure you can be perfect in the season but ending regular season as number one seed doesn't win you anything, as has been proven this Saturday. I think it was a fair assessment claiming both the Bills and KC were the best teams in the playoffs this far.

[draynay]

No, it isn't. The only reason the Bills didn't earn a spot in the championship game is because they lost to the Chiefs. It has fuck all to do with the Titans.

I'm trying to make sense of all the weird things people are saying, but I think the point is that if the teams were higher seeds they wouldn't have faced each other until the conference championship, and by extension, if these teams were both so great that they deserved SB berths they wouldn't be facing off in the divisional round.

In any case... they faced each other, it was a great game, it doesn't really matter when it happened IMO.

[eschatological]

The annoying thing to me is that if we had not lost to the Jags 9-6, that game would have been in Buffalo. Win against the Steelers in week 1, and you're the number 1 seed.

[Northern Goblin]

The annoying thing to me is that if we had not lost to the Jags 9-6, that game would have been in Buffalo. Win against the Steelers in week 1, and you're the number 1 seed.

Yeah but every team has games like that, we lost to the Giants, Washington and the Bears. We could have been 13-4 and a split with the Chiefs series and we're #1 seed.

Once you're in the playoffs, that has to be put aside and just focus on the games you have.

Take it from the franchise that's spent 20 years playing "What if" That way madness lies.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a playoffs where all 8 divisional round teams were so evenly matched. All 4 games ended regulation in a field goal. At this point I think it’s a coin flip who wins the Super Bowl.

I dunno if I'd call it a coin flip. Maybe it's recency bias but I see the 49ers put up 6 points on offense, the Rams take a nap for the second half and nearly let the Bucs steal it, the Bengals still be the Bengals, and the Chiefs perfection after halftime against the Bills and I see an obvious Super Bowl winner.

It all, yet again, comes down to consistency for every team that's left. If they're hot I can see anyone that's left winning it all (well maybe not the 49ers I still don't believe that offense is good), but any one of these teams could go ice cold at a moment's notice and that's the end of their season.

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In coaching news I see the Broncos are having another interview with Hackett today and it just makes sense.

Guarantee you the first question in there is "So how likely do you think it is you could get Rodgers to follow you here?"

[Northern Goblin]

In coaching news I see the Broncos are having another interview with Hackett today and it just makes sense.

Guarantee you the first question in there is "So how likely do you think it is you could get Rodgers to follow you here?"

They also just had a second interview with Dan Quinn, and it doesn't. Unless their plan is to embrace mediocrity.