Dragon Knight for Dragon Isles??

[Teriz]

Also can we just get right out and admit that playing as an actual dragon (not dragonkin, a literal dragon in a mortal form) would be endlessly cooler than just another class that gives dragon powers to mortals?

Like, with a dragon form in combat. And knowledge that your character, canonically, is a dragon pretending to be an orc, not an orc pretending to be a dragon.

I really don't understand why we're having a debate about it honestly. If Blizzard made such a class, it would probably be the most popular class in WoW, and frankly be one of the most popular classes in the history of RPGs.

And the disgusting thing is that the lore for it is right there. It's not like we're creating anything new here. We see dragons disguising themselves as mortals all the time. You don't even need to make it based on the existing Dragon Flights. Make up an entirely new one, no one would bat an eyelash, they would just be stoked to play as a f------ing dragon!

[Triceron]

I really don't understand why we're having a debate about it honestly. If Blizzard made such a class, it would probably be the most popular class in WoW, and frankly be one of the most popular classes in the history of RPGs.

And the disgusting thing is that the lore for it is right there. It's not like we're creating anything new here. We see dragons disguising themselves as mortals all the time.

They could counteract it with really shitty racials :P

[Teriz]

They could counteract it with really shitty racials :P

Nah, give them the same racials as the race they're pretending to be. No biggie.

[Role Unknown]

Well.....if the next expansion is Dragon Isles....I would fully expect them to include Drakonid as a new race....not sure what classes they would be....but im sure they could include whatever the new class is for the expansion.

[username993720]

The only dragon-based class concept that exists in Warcraft/WoW is this;

https://heroesofthestorm.fandom.com/wiki/Alexstrasza

That's pretty much the Blueprint, and yes you're going to have to allow the player to be literal dragons, or you shouldn't even bother. It's the rule of cool.

It's not a WoW class concept, it's a HotS character. And you forget Chromie and Deathwing.

Actually they took quite a lot of concepts from Illidan HotS when they designed the Demon Hunter class for WoW.

Yet, you brush it off as a viable source when it comes to other classes.

Which is like saying the Mage class is pretty much Enchanting.

Enchanting doesn't have any combat usage, Engineering does.

Dragons makes sense.

Yet, it's not grounded in anything.

I really don't understand why we're having a debate about it honestly. If Blizzard made such a class, it would probably be the most popular class in WoW, and frankly be one of the most popular classes in the history of RPGs.

Because that would be a race, not a class.
The aspects are empowered proto-dragons. If you want to play as them, you need to be a dragon, first of all, and be empowered by them. Mortal races wouldn't just transform into dragons with draconic powers.

And the disgusting thing is that the lore for it is right there. It's not like we're creating anything new here. We see dragons disguising themselves as mortals all the time. You don't even need to make it based on the existing Dragon Flights. Make up an entirely new one, no one would bat an eyelash, they would just be stoked to play as a f------ing dragon!

Dragons disguised as mortals. Meaning, they are not any of the playable races. You can't expect to play as a fully-fledged dragon.

Nah, give them the same racials as the race they're pretending to be. No biggie.

That's not how it works.

[Teriz]

It's not a WoW class concept, it's a HotS character. And you forget Chromie and Deathwing.

No, it's a WoW concept. The mechanics for the class comes from HotS, but the concept is WoW.

Yet, you brush it off as a viable source when it comes to other classes.

Only when those concepts are unviable, like the Blademaster, which is better served as a warrior spec.

Enchanting doesn't have any combat usage, Engineering does.

You can craft Wands in Enchanting which can be used in combat.

Yet, it's not grounded in anything.

Uh it's grounded in nearly all the major draconic characters in WoW. Remember Onyxia? This was her for YEARS in WoW;



Dragons disguised as humans is extremely common in WoW.

Dragons disguised as mortals. Meaning, they are not any of the playable races. You can't expect to play as a fully-fledged dragon.

Why not? Garrosh killed one by stabbing it with a knife. There's nothing ridiculously over the top about playing as a full-fledged dragon.

[Triceron]

Yet, it's not grounded in anything.

Neither was Runemaster, and Blizzard wanted to make it a playable class, at least twice.

[username993720]

No, it's a WoW concept. The mechanics for the class comes from HotS, but the concept is WoW.

Really? Can i get a lore source for that class?

Only when those concepts are unviable, like the Blademaster, which is better served as a warrior spec.

More viable than your imaginary fanfics.

You can craft Wands in Enchanting which can be used in combat.

That's not combat usage. Engineering can craft guns. We're not talking about that, but on usable items.

Uh it's grounded in nearly all the major draconic characters in WoW. Remember Onyxia? This was her for YEARS in WoW;

Dragons disguised as humans is extremely common in WoW.

Nothing of what you just wrote has anything to do with a class.

Why not? Garrosh killed one by stabbing it with a knife. There's nothing ridiculously over the top about playing as a full-fledged dragon.

Because you can't apply it to any other race. Disguised doesn't mean you are that race.

Neither was Runemaster, and Blizzard wanted to make it a playable class, at least twice.

RPG sources.

[Triceron]

RPG sources.

Just like Dragonsworn then

[Teriz]

Really? Can i get a lore source for that class?

Where do you think HotS and Alexstraza and Chromie come from? They’re both WoW characters.

More viable than your imaginary fanfics.

Gazlowe and Alexstraza are imaginary?

That's not combat usage. Engineering can craft guns. We're not talking about that, but on usable items.

Yes it is. You can craft a magical weapon. That’s a combat application.

Nothing of what you just wrote has anything to do with a class.

Sure it does. It provides a foundation for the concept in WoW; A dragon that disguises themselves as a playable race.

Because you can't apply it to any other race. Disguised doesn't mean you are that race.

It’s a very good disguise.

[cocomen2]

Classic "T", if it's his concept then it okay to bend dragon race into class BUT if someone other than him making concept he crawl there to say "THERE NO WC3 CHARACTER LIKE THAT".

[Usernameforforums]

Why not chronomage? It still fits the dragon theme and its a new magic class based on time magic. It would be a 2 spec dps/heal class. Im tired of seeing new melee classes added to the game.

[Neuroticaine]

Across the multiple speculative thread and potential leaks of 10.0 I've never seen any mention about Dragon Knight class. Which is surprising, because it is something that lays beneath the surface to me.

Imagine something between Dragon Knight from DnD and Dragoon from FFXIV and dovakin from TES.

It would be perfect fit for the upcoming expansion in case if Dragon Isles are for real.

Literally every Dragon Isles "leak" has mentioned a dragon-based new class, most of which include at least 1 melee spec.

[username993720]

Just like Dragonsworn then

Then say Dragonsworn.

Where do you think HotS and Alexstraza and Chromie come from? They’re both WoW characters.

They're characters, not a class.

Gazlowe and Alexstraza are imaginary?

Alextrasza does not have a class.

Yes it is. You can craft a magical weapon. That’s a combat application.

No, on-use items that either provide damage or utility.

Sure it does. It provides a foundation for the concept in WoW; A dragon that disguises themselves as a playable race.

You made that up. There's no such class in lore. Therefore, it doesn't qualify as anything.

It’s a very good disguise.

*facepalm*

Thumb up for the laugh.

Classic "T", if it's his concept then it okay to bend dragon race into class BUT if someone other than him making concept he crawl there to say "THERE NO WC3 CHARACTER LIKE THAT".

That's called hyprocrisy, which he is known for.
The other day he told me how a dragon class doesn't make sense and how it wouldn't be added at all. Now, he's arguing for one.
One day he feels like it, the other he doesn't.

[Triceron]

Then say Dragonsworn.

Dragonsworn.

Dragon Knight.

Dragon Mage.

It would all still source back to the same RPG roots of a Dragon-themed/blessed/empowered class.

[bloodmoth13]

Pretty sure it would be 'dragonsworn' and would wear mail (dragonscales)

Could easily tank, heal or dps. I see people mention a spec for each flight but they would get max 3 specs and that would leave two out. Besides each flight can contribute to each role.

For healing i could easily see the main heal being based on the red flight (healing flames), a dot for the green flight, a damage reversal based on the bronze flight (mark target and heal 50% damage taken after 5 seconds up to a maximum of X) and black dragonflight could provide an armor buff.

[username993720]

Dragonsworn.

Dragon Knight.

Dragon Mage.

It would all still source back to the same RPG roots of a Dragon-themed/blessed/empowered class.

No.
The other ones have creative freedom, as in Teriz's bizzare concept to make it Dragons instead of mortals sworn to dragons.

[Triceron]

No.
The other ones have creative freedom, as in Teriz's bizzare concept to make it Dragons instead of mortals sworn to dragons.

They all have creative freedom.

Why would they not? Even Demon Hunters had creative freedom. Eyebeams, Vengeance tanking, double jump. Plenty of stuff that never existed before.

[username993720]

They all have creative freedom.

Why would they not? Even Demon Hunters had creative freedom. Eyebeams, Vengeance tanking, double jump. Plenty of stuff that never existed before.

Expanding the concept, yes.
Changing its whole premise. No.

[Teriz]

They're characters, not a class.

They're characters with similar traits and abilities, thus making them into a class.

Alextrasza does not have a class.

Sure she does, she has a set of abilities and spells that allow her to perform feats.

No, on-use items that either provide damage or utility.

Are you serious?

https://www.wowhead.com/item=168598/...apon-naga-hide
https://www.wowhead.com/item=128553/...e-hidden-satyr
https://www.wowhead.com/item=128552/...e-distant-army
https://www.wowhead.com/item=141910/...ient-priestess
https://www.wowhead.com/item=74727/e...eapon-colossus
https://www.wowhead.com/item=52747/e...weapon-mending
https://www.wowhead.com/item=38965/e...pon-icebreaker
https://www.wowhead.com/item=38926/e...pon-spellsurge
https://www.wowhead.com/item=128536/leylight-brazier

And that was just a quick look.

You made that up. There's no such class in lore. Therefore, it doesn't qualify as anything.

Again, we have this;

https://heroesofthestorm.fandom.com/wiki/Alexstrasza

And we have this;

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Wra...%20dark%20skin.

That's all we need for a class.