Sepulcher of the First Ones World Race

[Helltribute]

Funny that the reset will fix the health recovery and they killed it before it.

[Heyimyoshyy]

Probably hotfix nerf.

Irrelevant. Liquid officially got wrecked in the most important tier of Shadowlands. Walk away Max before you get your walking papers.

Doubt it. They reported it to Blizzard the first time it happened. And Blizzard acknowledged it, and said they can keep pulling.

[Cracked]

Why are people in Methods stream celebrating this like was a real 'kill'. Its not... he was missing 14% overall hp because he didnt heal from 10-24%.

the bug made them miss the most meaningful parts of p4 (dealing with the 8/16 Death Sentence bounces).....

He doesn't heal to 24% with MS, more like 17%. So he was basically missing 6% hp or about 30 seconds of the fight. They would have killed it anyway, but they feel like they've been robbed the real kill too.

[TyrianFC]

Doubt it. They reported it to Blizzard the first time it happened. And Blizzard acknowledged it, and said they can keep pulling.

While true, its still an embarrassing way to be 'world second'. Especially when world kill 1 and 3+ will likely be killed with the 'correct' fight having p4 working properly.

[sensei-]

Doubt it. They reported it to Blizzard the first time it happened. And Blizzard acknowledged it, and said they can keep pulling.

They can keep pulling because it is not a bug.

[Firefox72]

Why are people in Methods stream celebrating this like was a real 'kill'. Its not... he was missing 14% overall hp because he didnt heal from 10-24%.%

the bug made them miss the most meaningful parts of p4 (dealing with the 8/16 Death Sentence bounces)..... The first ~12.5% of Phase 4 is not the same as the final 12.5%....

Why not? They got it. And its 9% of the HP not 15% with the Warriors.

They reported the bug to Blizzard and Blizzard said that they can keep going. What else is there to do? They were playing well and would have probably gotten it today anyways even without the bug/hotfix.

[Helltribute]

Why are people in Methods stream celebrating this like was a real 'kill'. Its not... he was missing 14% overall hp because he didnt heal from 10-24%.

the bug made them miss the most meaningful parts of p4 (dealing with the 8/16 Death Sentence bounces)..... The first ~12.5% of Phase 4 is not the same as the final 12.5%....

Maybe because 22 days of raiding and 245 pulls to kill Jailer has a meaning to it while being only behind the world first.

[MakeMeLaugh]

Why are people in Methods stream celebrating this like was a real 'kill'. Its not... he was missing 14% overall hp because he didnt heal from 10-24%.

the bug made them miss the most meaningful parts of p4 (dealing with the 8/16 Death Sentence bounces)..... The first ~12.5% of Phase 4 is not the same as the final 12.5%....

Wrong numbers. Method was on really good pulls, he would have died anyway.

[Heyimyoshyy]

Why are people in Methods stream celebrating this like was a real 'kill'. Its not... he was missing 14% overall hp because he didnt heal from 10-24%.

the bug made them miss the most meaningful parts of p4 (dealing with the 8/16 Death Sentence bounces)..... The first ~12.5% of Phase 4 is not the same as the final 12.5%....

He didn't cast chains in the final phase in Echo's kill. Guess they shouldn't have celebrated either lol

[TyrianFC]

Why not? They got it. And its 9% of the HP not 15% with the Warriors.

They reported the bug to Blizzard and Blizzard said that they can keep going. What else is there to do?

The crux of p4 is lasting till the 16 bounce death sentence goes out. Thats what happens in the final 9%. Its not like the phase is linear in difficulty, its backloaded and they skipped the most demanding part completely.

[Takeada]

In a vacuum where WoW players are reasonable human beings capable of empathy and respect for their opponents, I'd agree. But even a cursory glance at some of the posts in this thread will show you that there's a non-insignificant portion of the casual RWF viewing base whose only motivation for watching the event is the EU vs NA debate. They don't care about the players or the organizations. They care that their region is better than the other and that's it. And while Liquid deserves criticism for failing to show up when it mattered the most, I fear their inability to kill the boss this reset will further cement the frankly offensive EU-centric views which get thrown around with impunity. (And were the standard up until Liquid started competing in the RWF back in BfA.)

Please.... As though it's only EU centric views that are an issue around here. Even worse that you think it's just because of Limit being successful when Blood Legion fans were the exact same way a decade ago even tho they never got a world first. Both sides do it and acting like one isn't as bad as the other or that one side only does it because of one guild is purely ignorant.

[sensei-]

It’s gonna be hilarious listening Max talk about it for a year how ’they didn’t really try anyway’ after failing 7 hours last night without even reaching p4.

[hzjf]

lets not forget that Anduin was also bugged

Method would have killed it even with no bug this Pull

[Shiekyerbooty]

I was watching, Method was very clean in the first 3 phases all day... They would have killed the Jailor today with or without a " bug "

They did the only thing they could do, they did what any guild would do

Grats Method for World 2nd

[Crillam]

lets not forget that Anduin was also bugged

Method would have killed it even with no bug this Pull

Maybe, I think they would have killed it before tomorrow atleast. Handling the 16 pools is pretty much the hardest part. Did they even soak 8 pools this time?

[gHouLwiNg]

After Method (MAD PROPS to them) getting world 2nd, the so called liquid RL isn't quitting the guild, then i dunno.. so sorry for all liquid members, except for the arrogant one.

[TyrianFC]

Well theres bonus points awarded for drama for this race, at least

Echo gets first as Liquid effectively gives up and pulls out.
Method gets second with a bugged kill.

Thats a fair amount of /popcorn just for the first 2 kills.

[UndedoKoleda]

Well theres bonus points awarded for drama for this race, at least

Echo gets first as Liquid effectively gives up and pulls out.
Method gets second with a bugged kill.

Thats a fair amount of /popcorn just for the first 2 kills.

We will know for certain after one or two more guilds kill the Jailer, but I believe that it was nerfed, not bugged. So yeah, my prediction is that Limit's kill will probably happen the same way.

[Nask]

Wf raiders " wouldnt it be cool to have a boss not tested"

wf raiders when bosses are buggy and and over/undertuned

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How many pulls have there been on Jailer on how many times did this bug happen? Jailer haven't been anymore bugged than let's say, Sylvanas.

[TyrianFC]

Wf raiders " wouldnt it be cool to have a boss not tested"

wf raiders when bosses are buggy and and over/undertuned

Blizzard did an amazing job internally testing the final 3 bosses. The jailer bug on the world second kill doesnt take away from their (overall) great job.