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I just realized the main enemy that we will be dealing with in Dragonflight will be the Primal Incarnates.
These are dragons, that embody a certain element, who are hostile to the other Dragonflights, so they were locked away. Sounds familiar?
The primals in FF14 (even the name is the same) are summoned entities, incarnations of a certain element, often popular summons from other Final Fantasy games, who in some cases have been imprisoned by certain races, because they were too dangerous or because they wanted to harness their energy. One of the most famous and most powerful ones, Bahamut, is a dragon. As well as Shinryu, who was summoned in Stormblood.
Even with the comparison not being 100% accurate, I'm getting the feeling they took this idea from Final Fantasy.
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2022-04-23, 09:28 PM #1Banned
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Primal Incarnates, another idea copied from Final Fantasy XIV?
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2022-04-23, 09:32 PM #2Mechagnome
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You think that "element based dragons" which has been a thing for decades, was stolen from Final Fantasy.
Is it that no one reads books anymore? Or do people really think these things? Am I just old as shit?
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2022-04-23, 09:32 PM #3Banned
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You need to read the post.
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2022-04-23, 09:34 PM #4Elemental Lord
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Where did you find the information about the main enemy in DF? Only thing I remember are magical giants or something Originally Posted by sambubu
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2022-04-23, 09:34 PM #5Banned
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Front page and WoW website. Originally Posted by MrLachyG
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2022-04-23, 09:36 PM #6High Overlord
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FFXIV invented ancient evils?
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2022-04-23, 09:36 PM #7The Patient
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You need to know what you're talking about. Originally Posted by sambubu
The bosses of the -first raid- are elemental dragons, not for the whole expansion.
WoW has had elemental based dragons before.
Final Fantasy, let alone XIV, did not invent the concept of 'primal elementals' or 'elemental dragons'.
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2022-04-23, 09:39 PM #8The Patient
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Did Guild Wars 2 copy elemental dragons with their Elder Dragons? The first one, Primordus was depicted in the original Guild Wars back in 2007. So did FFXIV copy Guild Wars? Or is an elemental dragon just not a particularly original creation in any RPG? Originally Posted by sambubu
I just think Ebonhorn is quite neat.
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2022-04-23, 09:40 PM #9The Unstoppable Force
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summoned entities, incarnations of a certain elements? sounds alot like ragnaros, FFxiv should stop really stop copying wow.
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2022-04-23, 09:40 PM #10Brewmaster
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Who cares, they can steal more let's just hope it's good.
You'll find Final fantasy pulls from its own sources and across it's back catalogue but again who cares, it's not a competition, as long as it's good that's what should matter. Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian
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2022-04-23, 09:41 PM #11Banned
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It's the combination of things. They are called primals, they are incarnations of certain elements, and they were locked away cause they were too dangerous. That's enough to say they they took the idea from there. Originally Posted by s1ns
It's the combination of things. They are called primals, they are incarnations of certain elements, and they were locked away cause they were too dangerous. That's enough to say that they took the idea from there. Originally Posted by s1ns
Irrelevant. Originally Posted by Alexjimithing
It's not about elemental dragons. It's about the combination of all these elements. Originally Posted by Alexjimithing
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2022-04-23, 09:41 PM #12Dreadlord
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Sounds like elemental lords, which is a fantasy trope going back decades. Also, Bahamut in FF is directly taken from Dungeons and Dragons, which itself is taken from Arabic mythology. None of these concepts are anywhere close to new. Originally Posted by sambubu
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2022-04-23, 09:42 PM #13Pandaren Monk
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Copying ideas isnt new however I will give the OP one bit of credit to be honest.
It does feel very on-the-nose that:
1. The Dragon Riding skill is blatantly a gryphon mount GW2 ripoff.
2. The Dragon Theme is probably because the devs played the FFXIV free trial, and the idea of primal evils probably inspired them.
3. Yes, blizzard has very often stolen other peoples ideas in the past.
That being said?
None of those things are origional no matter who made them. Blizzards interpritation of them could be good, or bad, ill hold my breathe and give the expansion a wide berth and after a month ill see if people feel positive about it or not.
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2022-04-23, 09:42 PM #14The Patient
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Oh you mean the entire basis of my post and the completely inaccurate sentence in my post is wrong? Originally Posted by sambubu
lol irrelevant
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2022-04-23, 09:43 PM #15The Patient
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You'd swear these FF diehards thought Final Fantasy invented the concept of Gods. Originally Posted by BossManRoth
I just think Ebonhorn is quite neat.
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2022-04-23, 09:44 PM #16The Patient
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Remember when Gandalf fell fighting the Balrog? Originally Posted by JDBlou
Tolkien estate should prob be paying Yoshi-P royalties.
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2022-04-23, 09:45 PM #17Epic!
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Except the WoW devs have openly played FFXIV since it first came out. So your theory is dumb Originally Posted by CaptainV
Originally Posted by Addiena
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2022-04-23, 09:45 PM #18Dreadlord
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Final Fantasy invented the concepts of Originally Posted by JDBlou
1. Fantasy
2. RPG
3. MMO
4. Narrative
5. Naruto Running
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2022-04-23, 09:45 PM #19The Lightbringer
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Jeez, you need to get a life. Originally Posted by sambubu
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2022-04-23, 09:46 PM #20Bloodsail Admiral
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dragons or other mythic entitites each ascociated with an element or color is a classic trope in pop culture
stuff like you go to the northern mountains to beat the red/fire dragon and then to the western ocean to beat the blue/water dragon and then to the eastern desert to beat the air/white dragon and to the southern swamps for the black/earth dragon and then some final boss that combines the power of all dragon is a plot summary for a fantastic amount of games out there
and it's not like the dragon flights or their colors and ascociated elements were a recent introduction to warcraft so i'm going with no to your question
