I still want Undermine, Azjol'Nerub zone, Emerald Dream, Tel'Abim, Barrow Deeps etc Azeroth isn't done yet at all.
Why we haven't got Undermine especially confuses me, Goblins are really underused.
Agreed. Sargeras and N'Zoth were rather abrupt. Although I can't think of a way for us to realistically fight Sargeras so us rescuing the Pantheon along the way and having them do it was a tidy way of having it done. N'Zoth is kind of a bummer. In and out in just one patch, like the Thunder King.
The most difficult thing to do is accept that there is nothing wrong with things you don't like and accept that people can like things you don't.
Then maybe they shouldn't have turned Argus into a patch and have the Army of Light end up being just a handful of Lightforged and 4 other people. We could have spent years fighting back the Legion on other planets and shit expanding the universe .
They could've just added some variety to the Legion aesthetics then, spread the expac out across a few other worlds that the Legion was in the process of conquering.
Have the Alliance back up the "Army of Light" and the Horde help stage rebellions in races that the Legion had been duping the way they did with the Orcs.
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I'm kind of wondering if they INTENTIONALLY burnt through WC3 and earlier lore faster because they wanted to do new stuff without bothering with the old... which might be a tad uncharitable but given how they did things in SL... hrm.
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I’m currently putting together a suggestion for a timeways expansion where they fill in the gaps of previous expansions with content they either cut or never got beyond concerting. We experience them as new content for the expac but the content is also rolled into the expansion from which they were from.
That could give them some options.
I mean, they kinda had run out of ideas in like, Cata?
Deathwing was not such a big character, Pandaria was a thrown away line... They "mined it out" like, 10 years ago.
But, to be honest, they are mostly making content from vanilla stuff now. I jus thope they keep it grounded.
I don't want solutions. I want to be mad. - PoorlyDrawnlines
The way they wasted stuff in Legion and especially BfA was insane.
Even though i'd argue the Naga are salvageable. We didn't even reach Nazjatar the city proper. Just the palace. And Azshara wanted us their to free N'zoth, even though it makes zero sense that he was imprisoned in this place. It also makes no sense that Azshara wasted her best soldiers/armies here. The Nagas empire under the sea should be huge. And it would be a piece of cake to make it so through writing, that Azsharas most powerful minions and were not present inside that palace and the playable part of the ocean floor, as they could either secure the rest of Nazjatar as well as being on important missions in other places on Azeroth, as Azshara has her own goals and wanted to betrayed and kill N'zoth anyway.
So the Naga don't have to be done at all.
Something Blizzard also greatly lacks in is the development of new, awesome characters who can replace the dead old guard. In most cases, if there even are new characters, they often very shallow and bland in comparison to the characters who came before in characteristics and design. They have to improve in that department big time.
uh, cause there are number of story threads throughout wow's lifetime that can be picked up on for new expansions, such as they are doing with the dragons in dragonflight.
other examples brought up by another poster: Undermine, Azjol'Nerub zone, Emerald Dream, Tel'Abim, Barrow Deeps
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but there is so much more potential than that for a N'zoth/Old God expansion: corruption of existing zones and all the gameplay/story potential there, Ny'alotha as a city as I mentioned already, the forces of N'zoth, involvement of the void itself and so on. Sure some parts might bring back parts from older expansions like Cata, but that isn't a problem as it'd be a different thing when an actual Old God was the one leading the enemy this time.
also a N'zoth expansion doesn't need to involve the Naga in significant ways, save em for a proper Azshara expansion.
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Id be surprised if most people fresh to wow have played wc3 or read any of the books / lore out there. I think its good if blizz turns a fresh page and focuses on the next generation while all the old timers can sit back and say how the good ole days were more pure.
In three expansions illidans going to come back and half your raid is going to be like who tf is this guy?
well ya, I would say he was a bit wasted cause there was much more Blizzard could have done with Kil'jaden in Legion, be it with Velen and the draenei or showing more of Kil and Sargeras.
as I said in my OP, there was a lot of content in legion's final patch that could have been expanded into it's own expansion, leaving more time in Legion expansion for Kil'jaden as the final boss of it.
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sure, but even with all these hints and speculation of his return, the impact of his return is going to be really neutered as compared to what it could have been cause we've already defeated him, handled his main forces/corruption and been to Ny'alotha.
so I guess he could come back with even more forces, bigger corruption and a new Ny'alotha (I guess?)... but meh, the impact for most people is going to be: "didn't we kamehameha this guy already?"
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exactly, there was such an easy set up for using Illidan's portal crystal and having the story be of "for the first time ever, Azeroth is invading the Burning Legion" instead of the other way around. Having the Legion be on the receiving end after Kil'jaden's defeat would have been a nice twist of the burning legion story.
You could have us going into different legion worlds, with different biomes and races/creatures/characters before Argus being the final stop. Have us actually build up an Army of the Light that isn't just some light draenei, but filled with different surviving races (let the art team go wild there). You could do so much more with Turalyon and Alleria, showcasing their history in-game than in some out-of-game voice thing. Do more with Xe'ra and make her an actual character we know before killing her off, do a lot more with the titans revival than that being something that suddenly pops up in the final raid... and so much more.