That sounds... Odd. Am I missing some lore here, or why would the dragons' fire keep him alive? I thought the purpose of what the dragons did was to cleanse the battlefield in the sense of destroying it entirely? Did this not in the process also kill all remaining forces at Wrathgate? Does red dragons' fire have rejuvenating properties?
So if both are healing then they are both healing, right? Remember you said the Red flight isn't a healing flight. So which is it they can heal or they can't? Red is a flight that was blessed by Eonar the same as the Green flight. They heal differently but they still heal.
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So you just want to ignore all context of the topic and say "healing is healing" even though it's obviously they aren't the same thing and no one means prescribed burning when talking about healing specs and magics?
Sure if that's what you need to get through the day they are in fact a healing flight and I'm sure wounded soldiers will be happy to know that there ashes will grow a wonderful forest.
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there's no real explanation bolvar is a one off of blight+dragon fire as every one else could already be dead while he was dying. but it could be there is some interaction the blight and dragon fire or him being a pally or any other number of things but as they seemingly retconned it so he did actually die we will likely never have a clear answer and he might just be a weird undead.
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Bolvar was never turning into a ghoul blight kills living and undead alike it has no necromantic priority's and the lichking had already pulled back and wasn't raising any one by the time the dragons came.
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Bronze healing doesn't just have to rewind time, it could also fast forward time. Locally speeding up healing on a wound by making days or weeks of natural healing happen almost instantly. The wound would look like it's sealing itself shut and blending back in with healthy tissue in real time.
Lore states that the red flight can heal and was given their gift from the same source as the green flight. All you are doing is throwing a tantrum about different types of healing because you got called out as being wrong by lore. It being a different type of healing magic is irrelevant to what it is associated with by the Flight. Both the Green and Red flights were gifted healing abilities from Eonar. Ysera is also deeply tied to nature magic healing rather then wound care and the like because of her association with the emerald dream.
Not to mention your claim would mean that Druids can't heal people because they use nature magic and similar to what Alexstraza is shown to do.
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No the basis would be that while prescribed burning is a way to clear corruption and heal the land it's obviously not the same thing as a druid using swiftmend on a person to heal a wound.
But if you want to say "healing is healing" So it's the same thing ignoring all other context go for it.
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But healing is healing. You are saying something isn't healing if it uses X methods to heal and that healing requires Y method only. That mages Cauterize isn't healing them because it uses fire when it allows them to survive a fatal hit and heal for a small percentage. I'm not ignore any context here. It doesn't matter if there are dozens of different ways to heal. It is all the same in the end, healing.
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Yes absolutely I am saying something isn't healing if it uses X method because the context in question is healing magics and specs and how they apply to combat not just healing over all because that's a meaningless thing to talk about as say burning a forsaken to death and then growing flowers out of the corpse isn't a useful thing for a healer to do to a party member.
But if you want to say they are a healing flight because they will kill you and then the land will be better for it your technically not wrong even if its a meaningless thing to say.
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The amusing part is that the Light makes a forsaken feel like they are burning to death every time it heals them. Your concepts for healing in Warcraft do not match the actual lore of the universe. Not to mention your comments were not about hyper specific scenarios but that Healing was not part of the Red Flight. Which is objectively false given the lore.
It also over looks how Druids can heal without growing flowers out of a corpse because Nature magic is not restricted as you keep trying to claim. Healing is Healing but the methods differ. This isn't even a foreign concept to RPG or writing since "Purified by Fire" is a common enough thing.
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Do you see no difference between feeling like you are burning and actually being burned to death?
could you point me towards all the red dragon druids? or are we just to assume any one who uses nature magic has all of the same abilities?It also over looks how Druids can heal without growing flowers out of a corpse
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