See what at work exactly? I see a picture of some trucks, and a picture of some bread.
Considering how you take nothing at face value, this is terrible as any kind of evidence of mobile bread ovens.
Perhaps we can replace the picture of the trucks with a picture of chickens, and claim that the chickens are baking bread?
Blame west somewhere else. The reason Ukrainians are dying, are being raped, tortured and executed with arms bound, is because your terrorist shit buddies are doing it for your Führer Putin. That is the only reason. How about fucking stop doing it? Fuck off back to Russia.
I posted several links of russian saboteurs murdering people in very same manner you claimed ukrainians did it. Did I ever say everything that russians did happened exactly on 25th of February, not 26th, 27th, 28th...?
Nice deflection bruh. All your "sources" are pro-russian bloggers and every single picture you link is 2 separate pictures merged into one, trying to draw a connection in between
Try to come up with actual proof yourself before you start arguing semantics based on things no one ever said.
AH yes, infallible proof. Someone speaking similar languages just saying "ukrainians did it" and it means it's a fact.Ukrainians said they shot them for being saboteurs on video from the scene.
Let me find a russian speaking person (say, an ukrainian refugee in Finland possibly) - then I slap someone and make a video out of it with the said russian speaking person screaming "UKRAINIANS ARE USING VIOLENCE ON THEIR OWN PEOPLE!!!!"
Also, where does it say the saboteurs were actually ukrainians, not russians?
Last edited by Saradain; 2022-05-05 at 01:25 PM.
I think Indian - and Chinese - reluctance to join on your sanctions stems in large part exactly from many in West thinking that they are same genocidal empires wanting to erase people and cultures from existence (Muslims and Uighurs respectively), and that drives them closer to Russia.
...that's what unrestrained activism gets you.
Said 'reluctance' is due to India having a long history of nonalignment and China is looking to maintain some links to Russia as avenues for exploiting the shit out of it, not them being 'driven closer'.
You do realise Russia's stated reasons for occupying Crimea and Donbas run directly counter to India and China's ideological bases for their policies regarding the Muslim minorities in their countries, yes? Maybe stop huffing the copium for a moment, rofl.
Last edited by Elegiac; 2022-05-05 at 01:44 PM.
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
Their energy and military needs add to their need to be free from potential Western blackmail if West decides that what it does with Russia is actually "new normal" rather then exception; and it's not like Russia - unlike West - is going to supply their rebels.
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Proving my point.
If only supporting a genocide would be equally frowned upon. At least we on MMO-C are special and protected class.
Also:
https://prnt.sc/MyTNMUSCT8Dr
Another deleted post by @Shalcker making outright propaganda claims, no russians in Kiev my ass.
Last edited by Saradain; 2022-05-05 at 01:53 PM.
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
I assume that both India and China know that they can avoid what has happened to Russia by simply deciding not to commit genocide on their neighbours.
And seriously do you really think that either of them will come your aid? I mean really? They'll wait until you're economically on your knees and then offer to buy your oil and gas for a very healthy discount.
Last edited by Pann; 2022-05-05 at 01:56 PM.
It would, as despite the formalities Beijing is well aware that it is de facto considered a separate country with de jure security agreements with other powers protecting its independence.
Moreover, it's irrelevant since the PRC is neither planning to conquer Taiwan nor do they have the material capacity to do so, so your assertion that Russia being punished for being shitheads regarding Ukraine is somehow going to push China closer to Russia remains ridiculous copium. The only thing China is going to offer you is a shackle through which they'll bleed you dry.
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
Remember guys, the West is one entity, not a group of sovereign nations but a hivemind doing all the evil things happening in the world.
Speaking of alliances, how is Russia wagging their finger very angrily at Sweden and Finland not to join NATO working out?
Oh, it isn’t?
If Russia’s intent was to weaken NATO, they sure have expended a lot of money, people, equipment and regressed their economy to do the exact opposite of that.
Also, just to bring up the “only one person officially died on the warship” bit from earlier… maybe you believe that (I doubt it,) but the families of the sailors probably have some questions not being answered, seeing as every other source other than the Russian one (so, you know, the trustworthy ones) are saying hundreds of sailors went to the bottom of the Black Sea along with the warship Russia has no means of replacing.
Have they just been telling every one of the hundreds of families who lost their son, husband or father, that the one sailor lost was theirs, and just hoping none of the families ever talk to one another?
I’m sure those sailors would love to know that, not only did they die for nothing, but now their country is refusing to even acknowledge their pointless sacrifice.
But hey, at least you tacitly admitted that the ship wasn’t sunk in a storm. You’d best be careful, though. Between admitting that and saying what Russia is doing is a war, you’re running directly counterthetical to the official Russian position.
“Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
Words to live by.
They cannot if West simply rewrites what it considers to be genocide on the fly.
They already do; it doesn't matter though when Western actions drive oil price above last several years even at discount.And seriously do you really think that either of them will come your aid? I mean really? They'll wait until you're economically on your knees and then offer to buy your oil and gas for a very healthy discount.
Saudis will gladly take Western bonus you'll be overpaying to them, while Russia will be okay with sustainable price to friendly countries, strengthening the ties.
Last edited by Shalcker; 2022-05-05 at 02:06 PM.