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Again, these people don't care. It is meant as a scare tactic. And the people who will be impacted the most by it can't afford a lawsuit.
The idea of "They can't do it, so it won't happen" is false when they are literally already trying to do it.
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Yeah, but it isn't murder. Just because people call it murder doesn't make it murder. Homicide? Sure, but Homicide isn't murder.
There are people who think killing at all in murder, but I don't see people moving to strike the self defense laws.
Also, the technical name for a miscarriage is "Spontaneous Abortion." And these laws include investigating women who have miscarriages to determine if they DID anything to cause the miscarriage. Remember when people were saying the cure can't be worse than the poison with all the covid measures? This is that.
Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion I gain strength. Through strength I gain power.
Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.
–The Sith Code
Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion I gain strength. Through strength I gain power.
Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.
–The Sith Code
Problem is there are laws on the books in my state(Ohio) that states if I go out of state to do something that would normally be illegal in Ohio but not elsewhere, I can be charged with it.
Case in point. Sex Tourism. Lets say I go out to Nevada or Germany or any other location where the ability to pay for sex is legal with a consenting adult in an appropriate place. Not that I would but if I were to do that and was found out, I could be charged with solicitation among other things and would also have to register as a sex offender on top of it. Sad thing is this isn't the only laws that this applies to.
This is just an example of laws that follow a citizen regardless where they are at and not a discussion about sex or sexual activity.
Don't the democrats control the house / senate / presidency? How can they do nothing to combat this?
There is no "compromise".
The "compromise" you describe is "how much can we subjugate and oppress women?" The counter-position is "women should not be subjugated and oppressed, at all." What you're describing is not a compromise. It's a victory for those who want to subjugate and oppress women, to treat them as lesser and deny them basic human rights.
It's literally the same argument. In every respect. If you're not treating them the same, it's because even you know the core premises of your argument are horse shit that not even you believe to actually be true or reasonable.Now we've got the baby-growing-inside-mommy-is-the-same-as-a-blood-donor argument.
1> Not a "baby".How about we get some rights for the baby, then talk about how to find donors for blood and organs?
2> Even if it were, and even if it had rights, that means nothing with regards to abortion rights for the pregnant. Literally the point of the blood-donor argument, where there's an actual person that's gonna die without the transfusion, and their right to life never overrules the rights of any potential donors to say "no".
Sinema is pro choice, but anti-filibuster breaking
Manchin is pro life, and anti-filibuster breaking
Collins will vote against codifying roe, because she says the law is too broad and allows too late term abortions
Murkowski hasn't commented yet
So at best they have 48 (maybe 49) votes. So nothing will happen unless we get more dem senators.
I'm just so fuckin' tired of the "can't we abuse women a little? C'mon, compromise with us here" bullshit.
Misogynistic evil bastards.
Feel free to insert "the gays" or "visible minorities" or "non-Christians" or whatever other oppressed group you feel like in there instead of women.
Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion I gain strength. Through strength I gain power.
Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.
–The Sith Code
And that's before Roe is even overturned.
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Most of that section is ridiculous beyond belief, even though the horror show of the charging women with murder for getting an abortion will probably stand. The Legislature can't invalidate the function of another branch of legislature (Marbury vs Madison (only lawschool grads will understand the sunglasses emote)).
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So states should decide whether you have to donate your kidney to save another person, rather than yourself deciding?
I asked this question four days ago:
It seems that the men against abortions don't realize that a shot to Roe could have implications beyond termination of pregnancy. But like every other Conservative punishment...ahem I mean legislation they don't believe it will effect them personally.
“You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it.”― Malcolm X
I watch them fight and die in the name of freedom. They speak of liberty and justice, but for whom? -Ratonhnhaké:ton (Connor Kenway)
Only in the most technical sense possible. The Senate is tied 50-50, with the Vice President having the tie-breaking vote. This technically gives them control, insofar as we don't have Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, but for two very important things:
1. Due to the filibuster, virtually any actual legislation requires 60 votes.
2. Senators Manchin and Sinema, despite nominally being Democrats, generally tend to vote with Republicans on most things. Including their refusal to remove the filibuster. The only things they really reliably vote on are confirming judges.
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I tell you what: you find literally one single case of government that gives any kind of government benefit to any unborn children. Any instance of Medicare of Medicaid for the child (I said child not mother), unborn children being counted in the census, unborn children getting food stamps, that kind of thing.
Oh, and don't think you can get away with "you can't murder them" because you can't murder a tourist or illegal immigrant, either.
Literally one single case where an unborn child is treated as a citizen. One. Then, we'll talk about their rights.
You have 24 hours. Clock started 9 months ago.
Some random items.
The National Review, which pretty much is pro-life, is of the opinion that the GOP has lost the war on mifepristone and misoprostol. Anybody with internet access can click on Aidaccess.org and get them for free. The pills will be delivered in brown envelopes from any number of locations throughout the world. The one disadvantage is delivery can take 10 days. The vast majority of Aidaccess clients is from Texas.
Then you have organization like IPAS that vet pharmacies throughout the world that sell abortion pills. Including many in Mexico. Where mifepristone and misoprostol are sold over the counter. A combi-pack goes for less than $20. A fraction of the cost in the US which is around $95.
If Roe vs. Wade is repealed, CA will have 30% of the abortion clinics in the US. Currently 21%. The state is planning to expand access. So, the number is expected to grow.
According to the latest UC Berkeley poll, CA voters are overwhelmingly in support of pro-choice. Support in Central Valley is the lowest at over 70%. Surprisingly support in San Diego/Orange County is as high as the Bay Area - over 80%. Over 60% of GOP voters in CA support women’s right to have an abortion.
Under Article 1, Section 1 of the state Constitution, which includes an explicit right to privacy, “all women in this state - rich and poor alike - possess a fundamental constitutional right to choose whether or not to bear a child.” Which is why as far back as 1969, three years before California’s voters had approved privacy rights and four years before the U.S. Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision, the state’s high court had recognized constitutional protections for the choice of childbirth or abortion.
Which raises the question of why Newsom and Democratic legislative leaders are proposing a November ballot measure that would amend the state Constitution to incorporate the explicit right to abortion. They want the measure placed on the ballot by two-thirds votes of both Democratic-controlled legislative chambers.
The answer: politics. There is an election coming. The issue is expected to increase turnout and forced GOP candidates to make a choice between the two camps.