White Supremacist in Buffalo Murders 10 people.

[szechuan]

White Supremacist in Buffalo kills 10 people with a manifesto writing about the "Great Replacement".

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...event/3687999/

[postman1782]

White Supremacist in Buffalo kills 10 people with a manifesto writing about the "Great Replacement".

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...event/3687999/

He live streamed it too.

[Edge-]

You know it's a "real mass shooter" when they write a racist manifesto before going on a shooting spree in a part of town that's more populated by people of color.

Ranting about the "great replacement" and everything, I wonder he gave Tucker Carlson a shoutout by name.

[PACOX]

Considering that rhetoric that flies in "news" networks and our politicians? Expected. Nothing changes until their is change from the top.

Don't care about whatever narrative these people have. Nothing but disdain from these people and those they get their talking points from.

[Kaleredar]

Considering that rhetoric that flies in "news" networks and our politicians? Expected. Nothing changes until their is change from the top.

Don't care about whatever narrative these people have. Nothing but disdain from these people and those they get their talking points from.

Hopefully we'll see a proper condemnation coming from the president and an enumeration of what... and who... spurs this kind of action. The kind of condemnation that was sorely missing under the last president.

[eschatological]

My post from the other thread:

I live 1.2 miles from the grocery store where 10 people were slaughtered today. A grocery store I've been shopping in (though it's not my regular store).

The dude drove from 3 hours away, rural bumfuck country, where he's been radicalized by rightwing conspiracies, to the "most black zip code" in NY state (which...may be true, IDK, this guy obviously isn't a fucking stellar fact checker), to kill my neighbors.

It's been an exhausting day.

I've been waiting all day to find out if people I know have been killed or not. What a fucking day. As usual, the same people are offering "thoughts and prayers" but will still continue to insist there is no racism any more.

[Kaleredar]

My post from the other thread:




I've been waiting all day to find out if people I know have been killed or not. What a fucking day. As usual, the same people are offering "thoughts and prayers" but will still continue to insist there is no racism any more.

Even worse, they'll tell you the real danger comes not from the multiple instances of right-wing violence observable and quantifiable in the United States, but that the danger instead lies in phantom BLM/Antifa boogeymen.

[eschatological]

Even worse, they'll tell you the real danger comes not from the multiple instances of right-wing violence observable and quantifiable in the United States, but that the danger instead lies in phantom BLM/Antifa boogeymen.

Our one local news radio station (ie the only other newsradio to National Public Radio) in Buffalo has become increasingly rightwing over the years. I stopped listening to it more than a decade ago when they started spouting Birther crap against Obama. Before that, they were just uber patriots carrying water for George W. Bush all the time and his global wars.

Anyways, tonight I had a 40 minute drive home from my mom's house, and I decided to tune in to see what they were saying. The most galling part is their constant appeals to mental illness (I mean, I guess believing rightwing talking points is a mental illness, but I don't think that's what they're going for), and calls for unity. They stressed that the shooter was from "out of town" or an "outsider" and that we could never hate each other. This same station, during the BLM protests, where we once again got national attention for an old man who was pushed down and bleeding from the head, cried bloody murder agains their neighbors for some broken windows and a molotov (that did minimal damage) thrown in the City Court building. They've been sowing divisiveness for 2+ decades. Of course, the call to unity only happens because the dude who did the shooting said the same stuff they say every day on the radio.

[Kathranis]

The most galling part is their constant appeals to mental illness

Right wingers: "It's not guns, it's mental illness!"
Also right wingers: "I absolutely will not help the country pay for affordable healthcare so people can deal with mental illnesses."

[Fargus]

Glad I live in a country where I don't have to be worried about being gunned down while doing my groceries.

[Belize]

Right wingers: "It's not guns, it's mental illness!"
Also right wingers: "I absolutely will not help the country pay for affordable healthcare so people can deal with mental illnesses."

Also right wingers: Let's radicalize and arm mentally ill people

[Endus]

The most galling part is their constant appeals to mental illness (I mean, I guess believing rightwing talking points is a mental illness, but I don't think that's what they're going for)

"Mental illness" and "ignorance" aren't excuses or explanations. This shit happens because some people are evil. Morally deficient people who seek to harm innocents. They don't get that way because they're "mentally ill". Nor is it because they're "ignorant". That kind of venemous hate is entirely separate; a character failing that runs deep and wouldn't be corrected if they got psychiatric care, nor if they were offered information to educate them out of their ignorance.

Every time people use either for an excuse, it's an attempt to hand-wave some measure of the offender's personal responsibility for their actions, and it's gotta stop. These assholes aren't mentally ill, and they're not acting out of ignorance. I've known poorly-educated people with schizophrenia who were lovely, and the worst they got was terrified if their symptoms were getting the better of them, not violent.

This guy, and those who do similar acts, are evil. They are awful, hateful, violent people, and they're the only ones responsible for their choices.

[Mihalik]

Poor white boy. I'm sure he was anxious about the economy. Can't you libtards empathize?

/s

[Zython]

I'm just gonna state it here. There's only two ways to solve this problem:

1. Get rid of the guns.

2. Get rid of the white supremacists.

I'm personally in favor of #2, but I'm not picky.

[Captain N]

So the guy wrote a manifesto referencing Tucker Carlson's "Great Replacement" Theory.

Literally drove to a black neighborhood to kill people while live streaming it on Twitch.

Was able to surrender to police without any issues.

Right Wing Posters on Various Social Media: It was ANTIFA and BLM!!

[Edge-]

Tucker Carlson's "Great Replacement" Theory.

Worth noting: It's not his.

https://www.adl.org/resources/backgr...t-an-explainer

Sure it's originally of French origin (oddly), but it was adopted by white supremacists well before Tucker Carlson started repeating uncritically it, and with a number of different flavors, on live television.

[Captain N]

Worth noting: It's not his.

https://www.adl.org/resources/backgr...t-an-explainer

Sure it's originally of French origin (oddly), but it was adopted by white supremacists well before Tucker Carlson started repeating uncritically it, and with a number of different flavors, on live television.

Which begs the question -- Will FOX news do something about him now that his repetition of the theory has resulted in a mass shooting, or will they once more fall back on the "no reasonable person believes Tucker Carlson"? Or even worse try to hand wave it away and try to win via the technicality that it was indeed started by the French and they're not to blame for it?

[Kaleredar]

Worth noting: It's not his.

https://www.adl.org/resources/backgr...t-an-explainer

Sure it's originally of French origin (oddly), but it was adopted by white supremacists well before Tucker Carlson started repeating uncritically it, and with a number of different flavors, on live television.

It's the same tired, racist claptrap that's been espoused for hundreds of years at this point. And, as we can see, it unfortunately works.

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Which begs the question -- Will FOX news do something about him now that his repetition of the theory has resulted in a mass shooting, or will they once more fall back on the "no reasonable person believes Tucker Carlson"? Or even worse try to hand wave it away and try to win via the technicality that it was indeed started by the French and they're not to blame for it?

"something something something, can't control what our viewers do, something something something, plausible deniability"

I doubt we'll see any address of such a thing on Fox news.

[Edge-]

Which begs the question -- Will FOX news do something about him now that his repetition of the theory has resulted in a mass shooting, or will they once more fall back on the "no reasonable person believes Tucker Carlson"? Or even worse try to hand wave it away and try to win via the technicality that it was indeed started by the French and they're not to blame for it?

He has the most popular show on television, Fox isn't telling him much more than to keep up the good work. And they already distance themselves from his specials and he's one of their "opinion" hosts etc. etc.

I guess I'll do the performative Onion post: https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-p...s-r-1835173950

Not to be funny, but to highlight how sad this continues to be.

[Masark]

Which begs the question -- Will FOX news do something about him

No.

O'Reilly was never held to account for George Tiller's murder, so why would they care about a bunch of black people being murdered by another of their acolytes?