King's Diversity Space Tool: A Leap Forward for Inclusion in Gaming

[minteK917]

uhm sweaty, you score a 1 in culture because white culture isn't very exotic (what is white culture anyway? there are many white countries with different cultures)

The worse part is that Like Sterling says in their video. The point that this tool is literally going back to othering people. Some people are more "exotic" more "gendered". Real inclusion lmao.

[Xires]

uhm sweaty, you score a 1 in culture because white culture isn't very exotic (what is white culture anyway? there are many white countries with different cultures)

The racism and ignorance is strong with this post. Don't worry though...it's anti-white. So you'll be awarded points.

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Except Blizzard has said, repeatedly, that they're not hiring based off of quotas (and it'd be plainly illegal for them to do so), so why the fuck are you drawing a connection between this tool existing (which is stupid and should be criticized) and some imaginary plight of straight white males you've constructed entirely in your mind?

Yeah, Blizzard keeps SAYING one thing while doing another.
They hire based off of diversity. They even have a new Diversity officer. They say they aren't hiring based off of race and then in the same post admit that they are hiring based off of race. You've already been called out by me and others here showing you the blue post where this is 100% anti-white male. Any comments on that? Or are you going to keep glossing over what blizzard SAYS as compared to what it has been doing and continues to do....attack white men and arbitrarily push them out for the crime of being white and male?

[Linkedblade]

The worse part is that Like Sterling says in their video. The point that this tool is literally going back to othering people. Some people are more "exotic" more "gendered". Real inclusion lmao.

Yeah if you make a character that is paraplegic, can manipulate time, muslim, and genderqueer: this character has to be added to the game to bring up the diversity average of the entire cast.

[Xires]

Except Blizzard has said, repeatedly, that they're not hiring based off of quotas (and it'd be plainly illegal for them to do so), so why the fuck are you drawing a connection between this tool existing (which is stupid and should be criticized) and some imaginary plight of straight white males you've constructed entirely in your mind?

It is 100% not imaginary. It's how the woke hire you into their woke company's. "Too many whites= needs diversifying".
I mean...we even linked the blue post of blizzard saying that is 100% what they are doing, lol

[Nymrohd]

I mean I understand that if your goal is to have some representation in mediums with very large casts like many game genres, some sort of spreadsheet just makes sense. But I cannot possibly fathom who thought this would be good marketing, phrase it as rating! and more importantly the fact that it is used during creation instead of considered a bit later in the process is at the very least peculiar. If you have made the effort to have some diversity in your development team, diversity SHOULD occur naturally. BIPOC devs will want to include BIPOC characters, queer devs will want to include queer characters and differently abled devs will want the same as well. So make an effort to have at least some diversity in hiring and make sure whoever is managing teams actually gives diverse characters a chance by giving them the tools to pre empt their bias.

Constructing characters to force representation is the worst form of tokenism. Without people who actually understand the experience of diversity your characters will probably just end up hollow tropes. But hey then you make a game that is better known for its representation on PornHub and AO4 than for its gameplay and content updates. . .

[RoKPaNda]

It is 100% not imaginary. It's how the woke hire you into their woke company's. "Too many whites= needs diversifying".
I mean...we even linked the blue post of blizzard saying that is 100% what they are doing, lol

Your inability to understand what you read isn't our limitation though, it's yours. The person you're criticizing told you what the laws are. You taking something out of context or just plain not understanding is 100% a you problem and not a Blizzard problem, culture problem, or our problem.

[Eapoe]

Seems like a tool developed to be used by companies that lack diversity and inclusivity. This is a tool that sounds like it should be applauded by the likes of Xires (who Relapses responded to at the start of this page), since it will give companies free reign to hire nothing but cis white men with no regards to any diversity or representation as they can use this tool to check boxes to make characters.

[Relapses]

Yeah, Blizzard keeps SAYING one thing while doing another.
They hire based off of diversity. They even have a new Diversity officer. They say they aren't hiring based off of race and then in the same post admit that they are hiring based off of race. You've already been called out by me and others here showing you the blue post where this is 100% anti-white male. Any comments on that? Or are you going to keep glossing over what blizzard SAYS as compared to what it has been doing and continues to do....attack white men and arbitrarily push them out for the crime of being white and male?

The existence of a DE&I department isn't "proof" of anything my dude. Many large corporations have these. Blizzard's stated intent is to make sure that they're getting word of their positions out in the world in avenues which attract people from diverse backgrounds which may not traditionally be interested in a career with video games. The usual straight white males will continue to apply for the job and if they're the best candidate for the job, they'll get it. The fact that, maybe, just maybe, a few people from marginalized backgrounds may also get jobs is not proof that straight white males are being persecuted. (Thanks for the correction, @UnifiedDiversity.)

This whole thing is in your head.

[ulululu]

Thing is: I couldn't care less, I just can't be bothered to give even the slightest bit of a damn. Please leave me alone, I just wanna pick a character and move forward, why would I care if my character was into riding a magic rod or how he was born as. I'm so invested in this, because it's constantly brought up yet I just crave for improvement of quality of the actual game.

My goodness me, can we please skip that part and be people? Just people?

If a genderless, pansexual ape with crossbow-rocketlauncher-hybrid weapon and 6 tentacle legs has a nice skillset I'll go for it, no need to make me feel guilty for - what exactly?

[Relapses]

Yeah, Blizzard keeps SAYING one thing while doing another.
They hire based off of diversity. They even have a new Diversity officer. They say they aren't hiring based off of race and then in the same post admit that they are hiring based off of race. You've already been called out by me and others here showing you the blue post where this is 100% anti-white male. Any comments on that? Or are you going to keep glossing over what blizzard SAYS as compared to what it has been doing and continues to do....attack white men and arbitrarily push them out for the crime of being white and male?

The existence of a DE&I department isn't "proof" of anything my dude. Many large corporations have these. Blizzard's stated intent is to make sure that they're getting word of their positions out in the world in avenues which attract people from diverse backgrounds which may not traditionally be interested in a career with video games. The usual straight white males will continue to apply for the job and if they're the best candidate for the job, they'll get it. The fact that, maybe, just maybe, a few people from marginalized backgrounds may also get jobs is not proof that straight white males are being persecuted. (Thanks for the correction, @UnifiedDivide.)

This whole thing is in your head.

[Syncr]

Except Blizzard has said, repeatedly, that they're not hiring based off of quotas (and it'd be plainly illegal for them to do so), so why the fuck are you drawing a connection between this tool existing (which is stupid and should be criticized) and some imaginary plight of straight white males you've constructed entirely in your mind?

Hiring based off quotas is not illegal. There is literally the term a “diversity hire”. A ton of companies including blizzard does this

[Xires]

I mean I understand that if your goal is to have some representation in mediums with very large casts like many game genres, some sort of spreadsheet just makes sense. But I cannot possibly fathom who thought this would be good marketing, phrase it as rating! and more importantly the fact that it is used during creation instead of considered a bit later in the process is at the very least peculiar. If you have made the effort to have some diversity in your development team, diversity SHOULD occur naturally. BIPOC devs will want to include BIPOC characters, queer devs will want to include queer characters and differently abled devs will want the same as well. So make an effort to have at least some diversity in hiring and make sure whoever is managing teams actually gives diverse characters a chance by giving them the tools to pre empt their bias.

Constructing characters to force representation is the worst form of tokenism. Without people who actually understand the experience of diversity your characters will probably just end up hollow tropes. But hey then you make a game that is better known for its representation on PornHub and AO4 than for its gameplay and content updates. . .

I thought hiring via race, gender, and sexual preference was illegal though? Don't you think that hiring for the sake of race, sex, and gender is what helped get us into this in the first place? Now movies are just garbage. The woke bring back old IP's and then bastardize it...Star Trek, Star Wars, Dr. Who, Wheel of Fire, and multiple other IP's. They've replaced great story's with political messaging. And if you don't like their politics....they call you every ism in the book.

They try to shame you, censor you, discredit you with buzz words. And even if you aren't white....if you don't go with their political ideology....they say things like "If you don't vote for me...you aint black" ~ Joe Biden while on Charlemagne "the gods" show.
You have to vote the way they ant you to, act the way they want you to, and do the things they want you to. If you don't....well look at all the censoring going on and who is doing it. What gets you censored? What gets you banned? They try and pull some moral outrage nonsense....the same people who scream out in pain...as they strike YOU.

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The existence of a DE&I department isn't "proof" of anything my dude. Many large corporations have these. Blizzard's stated intent is to make sure that they're getting word of their positions out in the world in avenues which attract people from diverse backgrounds which may not traditionally be interested in a career with video games. The usual straight white males will continue to apply for the job and if they're the best candidate for the job, they'll get it. The fact that, maybe, just maybe, a few people from marginalized backgrounds may also get jobs is not proof that straight white males are being persecuted. (Thanks for the correction, @UnifiedDivide.)

This whole thing is in your head.

The whole thing is in my head as they openly hire via race, gender, sexual, and political ideology?

Sure thing...they haven't been openly pushing this for years now. It's all "in my head".
The same people who love keeping people poor are all in this to "help people".
Sure looks like they've made everything worse...while they get record level profits.

[Xires]

But that'd get in the way of his internet rage

Pointing out the racism from the left is now dismissed as "internet rage". I'd laugh- but right now the world is under you jack boot.

[MiiiMiii]

Concidering we don't get much in terms of WoW until 2023 I guess it's slow news day for MMO Champion and we gotta farm a "Blizzard stupid" thread.

[Lindon]

Of course but dwarfism should score him some points on the "ability" axis.

Nah, he's strong (and a mechanic) which is a common male trait. I.e. he also gets a zero there.

Just to be clear here, this diversity tool is completely ridiculous and I sincerely hope that whoever at the company had the idea to make, or push for its making, gets fired. They clearly aren't bringing anything good to the table.

[Xires]

Please tell me you're not suggesting that these were lacking in political messaging before "the woke." Please.

No, I won't say that. But it was a message that said "debate" more then it said "If you disagree- you're cancelled". It also didn't push it in your face as "If you agree with us you are moral, if you don't...you're worse then Hitler".

[Compher]

I thought hiring via race, gender, and sexual preference was illegal though? Don't you think that hiring for the sake of race, sex, and gender is what helped get us into this in the first place? Now movies are just garbage. The woke bring back old IP's and then bastardize it...Star Trek, Star Wars, Dr. Who, Wheel of Fire, and multiple other IP's. They've replaced great story's with political messaging. And if you don't like their politics....they call you every ism in the book.

They try to shame you, censor you, discredit you with buzz words. And even if you aren't white....if you don't go with their political ideology....they say things like "If you don't vote for me...you aint black" ~ Joe Biden while on Charlemagne "the gods" show.
You have to vote the way they ant you to, act the way they want you to, and do the things they want you to. If you don't....well look at all the censoring going on and who is doing it. What gets you censored? What gets you banned? They try and pull some moral outrage nonsense....the same people who scream out in pain...as they strike YOU.

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The whole thing is in my head as they openly hire via race, gender, sexual, and political ideology?

Sure thing...they haven't been openly pushing this for years now. It's all "in my head".
The same people who love keeping people poor are all in this to "help people".
Sure looks like they've made everything worse...while they get record level profits.

You can't discriminate against someone and NOT hire them because of race, gender, sexual preference, otherwise good to go.

[Xires]

Dude, you cried about fucking genocide because of this trivial tool lol

No, I pointed out the long chain of events that have happened over the years. See when things happen over and over and then get worse...you can point it out. Not my problem you wanna ignore it and sit in a house that is on fire while claiming "Everything is fine".

[bmjclark]

Fucking yikes

[Xires]

You can't discriminate against someone and NOT hire them because of race, gender, sexual preference, otherwise good to go.

But when you hire based off of not being white and male...you are discriminating against a race and gender so...their is that. Or do white men not count when you hire based off of not being...white and male? Cause you know..."diversity".