I'm surprised he still has his job to be honest, considering how much outrage the playerbase has had over his work.
I'm surprised he still has his job to be honest, considering how much outrage the playerbase has had over his work.
Mighty one, never forget.
I'm terribly sorry that you can't follow what I said. Aucald stated that high profile Blizzard employees become lightning rods. I stated that their defenders make ludicrous claims in their defense, like how this thread sees you trying to claim Danuser bears no responsibility for the story, despite that being his job.
Ah yes, and you're a shining example of objectivity, no doubt.You can also tell he's biased simply by the word usage.
Why no, people don't just like Sylvie for T&A: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ery-Cinematic/
Great, but since the topic was about the current story, any attempts to drag in that irrelevant incorrect blaming is just muddying the waters. My point, to anticipate your sad "gotcha", is that the Blizzard Defense Force tries to claim that unpopular design and story choices cannot be blamed on anyone. That's patently absurd.
Yes in fact, as a team leader, Danuser bears responsibility for his team. If not, then Blizzard is the single most unique corporation... no, the single most unique organization of humans in existence.
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Why no, people don't just like Sylvie for T&A: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ery-Cinematic/
It's a small echo chamber of players that are outraged by him lmao.
The same people you see here on MMOC are also the same people who keep talking about WoW on reddit, twitter and twitch. What you perceive to be the millions of wow players or ex players posting online and raging about danuser are actually maybe a thousand people at maximum who make 99% of all posts. Took me years to find that out myself ngl and see the same people's nanes pop up on these other platforms.
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The thread topic is about the current story, but the post I was replying to, which you opted to weigh in on, was about the notion of specific individuals and their role as hate-sinks for the player base's irritations and annoyances. I also pointedly and specifically said they certainly *can* bear responsibility and blame, but as totems, often are the subjects of complaints they aren't actually responsible for.
Danuser, or whoever is in charge of the narrative at any given time, bears the responsibility from an organizational standpoint in the company, sure. But as people who know how departments work, and that individuals aren't necessarily unilaterally responsible for every iota of a given project, I would still say it's somewhat on us to recognize that maybe blaming a single individual for the collected output of a team (or an entire organization) is perhaps the lazy way to go about it. YMMV, of course.
"We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead
Why no, people don't just like Sylvie for T&A: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ery-Cinematic/
until... some people take a chill pill.
I think there is a gap between objective criticism and the incessant bullshit usually going on here. Of course all these memes about the token "enemy of the people" of the day aren't helping either.
All in all, Dragonflight will probably be the first time so far where it will be a completely "new" lore team's from scratch, without being forced to go down the rabbit hole laid out by predecessors. So it remains to be seen if these "Danuser bad and evil" memes survive that.
I'm afraid i agree.
But, it's not only that. The method the story is delivered is also outdated. The storytelling needs more character and world development, needs to recognise our character as more than a stranger and needs to not be tied to the raid. The story has to be able to go at it's own pace.
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You are right. The millions of players left. Which is why it's surprising many in the team still have a job. Most players don't care to come here and complain. They just leave without a word.
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Given that Danuser probably didn't just stumble upon his job by accident (then again you never know with Blizzard and its penchant for hiring guild mates of other developers, vide Afrasiabi), that wouldn't change shit. The fish rots from the head and Danuser is maybe around the pectoral fins. Unless the higher ups stop treating the story as an afterthought to be mostly done by unpaid, overworked interns with no experience writing their own name, let alone a story (hard to explain its quality otherwise) they'd just replace him with someone just as inept.
Let me stop you right there. The Warcraft story will never be good again. People need to stop being upset that there isn't anything good coming out of their beloved franchises like Star Wars and Star Trek or Warcraft. Star Wars, Trek, and Warcraft are dead folks. It's not coming back. The cool people who made Warcraft what it is are long gone. The franchise is now owned by a soulless corporation run by pansies. You'll never get the badass epic Warcraft back. You need to let go and move on with your life. It's important to look at things that aren't your favorite franchise.The story won't be good again until
Someone in the thread literally used the Green Jesus meme? You know, the Metzen version of the "Nathanos is just Danuser's self insert cause he loves Sylvanas" complaint? Remember when everyone was screaming in Cataclysm cause they said Metzen's "self insert" was dominating everything? Yeah, I know a decade is a long time ago to remember stuff.
The most difficult thing to do is accept that there is nothing wrong with things you don't like and accept that people can like things you don't.
Until blizzard fires each and every woke pos in the company. Seriously.