Originally Posted by
darkoms
Wow, Broxigar who had just been sucked into the portal and had no idea what was going on was defeated by a random patrol, unbelievable. After he received the weapon, he fought on equal terms with Varo'then, perhaps the strongest warrior of the night elves of that time.
Blackhand was killed by Doomhammer, Doomhammer himself was defeated by Lothar. Also I don't know why you give this example if they are both ordinary mortals, unlike Arthas and Mannoroth. And Arthas was empowered by death and had his own artifact weapon. We know this because? Illidan was playing with DK Arthas, once he got serious he just started burning him alive. Illidan simply dodged Mannoroth's attacks and at this point Mannoroth was much more focused on maintaining the portal rather than killing Illidan. And remember, Mannoroth in the first case did not expect his slave to attack him at all, and in the second he was distracted by other orcs and an iron star. If he and Arthas met in an open field, Arthas would not have such an advantage. I mean, Arthas is weaker than Lei Shen and Lei Shen took 30 days to defeat Xuen, do you really think Arthas is stronger than Mannoroth?
If you want to discuss artifact weapons, how about a loaded Doomhammer barely scratching Mannoroth's wing while Gorehowl pierced through his armor and skin? Or how about the fact that Varo'then's magical sword (Arcane-enhanced, which should be very effective against demons) thrust directly into Mannoroth's stomach, though wounding him (as well as constantly burning him with magical fire), still wasn't enough even to break him spell to keep the portal?
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it's amazing that in 2022 someone still hasn't read the Chronicles. Arthas did not play with the raid and could not kill them at any moment, the Chronicle explicitly states that it was a long and hard battle and Arthas fought with all his fury and eventually won
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First of all, I laugh every time Arthas fanboys tell me how great he is and how important he is to the story. It gets even funnier when they tell me that I have trouble understanding the story, considering how much Arthas fanboys like to distort the lore. I mean compare him to Thrall, who appeared in Warcraft 3 not much less than Arthas, who has appeared in every addon since the classic (although his role in Legion was minor and he did not have much time in BC and Wotlk), in contrast from Arthas who only had a big role in Wotlk and who also has several books and stories dedicated to him, while Arthas only has one book. I mean, even the cover of Chronicles 3 is Tyrande, not Arthas.
Secondly, we compare not the role in history, but the exploits. Another person stated that Arthas has feats that put him above Mannoroth, I asked what kind of feats and this person pointed to Warcraft 3, after which I clarified what exactly was shown there, which allows Arthas to be placed above Mannoroth. You would understand this if you bothered to read the dispute, and did not immediately run to defend the story of your idol