[EU] Brexit negotiations at a standstill

[Huehuecoyotl]

Thousands (28k!) of people coming across the border, so they've got the whole Rwanda thing going on to get rid of them all in an amaaaaazing, and totally not racist in any way, "Brexit Benefit." How many are on this first, magical flight?

Reportedly a whopping 7... That's seven, with a capital "fuck all."

Yet another massive waste of money from the government. A possible £500,000 wasted.

It's alright, Liz Truss just told us it represented "good value". I swear the idiocy of this group running the country plumbs new depths every day.

Mind you, it probably does look good value compared to the £31bn wasted on test and trace. Or the £10bn wasted on PPE contracts that didn't produce useable PPE. Or the £10bn wasted on fraud during Covid. Or the £31bn that Brexit has cost our country. Compared to those costs, it's chicken feed.

All to keep a bunch of racist gammons happy. Is this what my country has sunk to? Makes me ashamed.

[dribbles]

Thousands (28k!) of people coming across the border, so they've got the whole Rwanda thing going on to get rid of them all in an amaaaaazing, and totally not racist in any way, "Brexit Benefit." How many are on this first, magical flight?

Reportedly a whopping 7... That's seven, with a capital "fuck all."

Yet another massive waste of money from the government. A possible £500,000 wasted.

The numbers deported are not as important as the message or principle it sends to the people smugglers and their future customers. Enter the UK legally or risk being sent to Rwanda.

It is shameful that some would say £500,000 is money wasted if deportation of a few deters and prevents only one death by drowning in the English channel. Taking back control of our borders was a Brexit promise and is now being honoured.

It is a Brexit benefit implemented by Boris and the caring Conservatives that the UK/Rwanda deal improves the human rights and right to life of people who otherwise might foolishly imperil themselves by attempting a very dangerous English channel crossing.

Nothing racist about it, a policy to take great pride in and definitely not a waste of money.

[Oevaag]

Curious to know if the news will report the 1st flight bringing refugees from Rwanda.

I wonder how many Brexiteers even know this is a reciprocal agreement ?

[Temp name]

Are we really still beating the "taking back control" drum?

We always had control of our borders, we just never bloody enforced anything.

It's especially funny after what Zealo posted.

[Veggie50]

I'm sure it'll go eventually. Probably when Boris decides human rights are something the UK wants no part of.

…we’ll see…

[Crispin]

Brexit definately didn't do anything good for the English football team, count that as a con now that they're at the bottom, below 3 EU countries.

[Slant]

Brexit definately didn't do anything good for the English football team, count that as a con now that they're at the bottom, below 3 EU countries.

The English never cared much for their national team. And their national team was never the big prestige project of their players. Unless they win it, of course, in which case suddenly it's the only thing that matters.

It just so happens the English have won fuckall in over half a century... :P

[Barzotti]

The English never cared much for their national team

Huh? Did you miss all the "it's coming home lads" fuss two years ago?

[Slant]

Huh? Did you miss all the "it's coming home lads" fuss two years ago?

Yes, because they stumbled into the finals somehow. Ask them now if they care about the Euros.

[Iliena]

Yes, because they stumbled into the finals somehow. Ask them now if they care about the Euros.

I remember it well enough, are you forgetting we beat you on the way to the final or do you not follow the German national team?

Ohh yes! I remember you got a forum holiday for trolling the thread after England lost the final, but didn't say a peep when Germany went out.

Stay classy Slant.

[Flarelaine]

Steer clear from trolling fellow posters.

[Forogil]

UK reveals plans to ditch parts of EU Brexit deal

This will go over absolutely swimmingly with the EU, I'm sure.

Yes, the UK is yet again breaking an agreement, and are being taken to court, or to quote "Let's call a spade a spade. This is illegal."
That is the UK is currently breaking the 'Good faith' article of the withdrawal agreement.

https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2022/0...hanges-brexit/

[dribbles]

Yes, the UK is yet again breaking an agreement, and are being taken to court, or to quote "Let's call a spade a spade. This is illegal."
That is the UK is currently breaking the 'Good faith' article of the withdrawal agreement.

https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2022/0...hanges-brexit/

That of course is the EU side and we all know there are two sides to every story. The UK has been trying to debate serious problems with the protocol that jeopardise the GFA for two years and the EU are ignoring this. In order to prevent the EU from further damaging the GFA the UK are forced to act unilaterally re-writing the Brexit agreeemnt.

As to whether legal or not, the UK Attorney General says it is.

'Listen my preferred alternative right now is negotiation and my invitation to our EU friends is to come back to the table and to engage substantively with our proposals,' she said. 'They've failed to do that for over two years now and that's why we've regrettably been left with no option but to take these measures.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rt-Peston.html

All quite reasonable eurochums and actions, or in this case EU inaction, has consequences.

[Armael]

I'm surprised you're not dizzy after all the constant spinning of stories that you do.

[Slant]

I remember it well enough, are you forgetting we beat you on the way to the final or do you not follow the German national team?

Ohh yes! I remember you got a forum holiday for trolling the thread after England lost the final, but didn't say a peep when Germany went out.

Stay classy Slant.

We won like 3 world cups since '66. And at the last one we kicked Brazil's ass in their home. Ask me again if I care about England beating us in the Euros in '20. Plenty of tourneys to be had. Plenty of opportunities, all we have to do is wait and we'll win something again. Not something every country can say about themselves.

[Forogil]

That of course is the EU side and we all know there are two sides to every story.

Yes, a right one (the EU) and a wrong one (the Untied Kingdom).

All quite reasonable eurochums and actions, or in this case EU inaction, has consequences.

EU's inactivity on the legal front is now changing, the inaction of Boris's government to follow the agreement that he made will thus have consequences.

[Temp name]

Yes, a right one (the EU) and a wrong one (the Untied Kingdom).


EU's inactivity on the legal front is now changing, the inaction of Boris's government to follow the agreement that he made will thus have consequences.

Yeah, I don't get how he can look at this and think he's in the right. You made a deal, signed it, agreed to abide by its rules, and then immediately turn around and do none of that, and claim it's the other side's fault.

And we just know if it was the EU doing the exact same thing he'd be up in arms about how the EU are breaking their deals and aren't trustworthy, but when it's the UK doing it, they're just taking back sovereignty

[Huehuecoyotl]

Yeah, I don't get how he can look at this and think he's in the right. You made a deal, signed it, agreed to abide by its rules, and then immediately turn around and do none of that, and claim it's the other side's fault.

And we just know if it was the EU doing the exact same thing he'd be up in arms about how the EU are breaking their deals and aren't trustworthy, but when it's the UK doing it, they're just taking back sovereignty

It's worse than that; the DUP side of the story suggests that Boris had no intention of honouring the agreement he signed. So he lied to the electorate (and gained his majority under false circumstances), he lied to the EU and he lied to the rest of the MPs that were out of the loop.

Since he was telling the DUP he was going to renege, I suspect he told the ERG the same thing. Which is why they agreed to vote for the deal.

Boris is, basically, a lying cunt. Can't be trusted in any circumstances.

[Iliena]

We won like 3 world cups since '66. And at the last one we kicked Brazil's ass in their home. Ask me again if I care about England beating us in the Euros in '20. Plenty of tourneys to be had. Plenty of opportunities, all we have to do is wait and we'll win something again. Not something every country can say about themselves.

I'm genuinely pleased for you! Well done!

I see Boris is in Ukraine again cultivating his "World Statesman" brand: The prime minister had been due to appear at a conference held by a group of his Tory MPs in Doncaster, but cancelled the visit to travel to the Ukrainian capital instead.

Bet he got a far warmer reception than facing his own MP's, after yet another great week for his goverment, with the ethics adviser and Priti Patel knocking it out the park with Rwanda!

[Fuiking]

Dribbles with his border control thing: no more migrants..

The dutch, in the EU: We cant handle more migrants, lets close border for them! EU: Okay. *shrugs*