As far as I know, Agents is MCU in name only. It's got very little to do with the rest of this stuff. So far, I'd say Ms Marvel is closer in quality to Loki and WandaVision than to Hawkeye and Falcon/Winter Soldier. Remains to be seen if they can keep it up. Even for those two that started off very well (Loki and WandaVision), they've had a problem finishing as strong.
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IDK what the official word is now, but at least in the earlier seasons it was very strongly tied into the MCU. Referenced events from the movies, went along movie plot lines even. Heck, Nick Fury showed up once or twice. But the latter seasons definitely kinda went off the rails a little bit.
I'm looking forward to watching it. I don't have an expectation, wasn't a big Ms Marvel comic person, so I think that is going to help me either like it or not. I feel like the MCU and Star Wars shows I go into with expectation have let me down a lot and the ones I have none for have ended up being okay and I don't have as many qualms.
So I look forward to it hopefully catching my eye, but I'm also a little burned out on all the heroes being teens/highschool. I get why, bring the youth and build long time viewers, but I wouldn't mind them tackling more established heroes and a little less origin story teen drama. Granted that was Moon Knight, but not my favorite show second half better than first. (also I mean for introducing new characters, not continuing the story of established ones)
Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion I gain strength. Through strength I gain power.
Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.
–The Sith Code
Only knowing some of the reasons behind the character from when she was announced in the comics realm I had some idea what to expect in the show. Watched the trailer and it seemed kinda quirky and worth giving it a shot. After two episodes I've got to say I think I like the show. Sure there are some cringe moments but there's also the whole discovery bit where it's all new. I don't quite get the introduction of that crew in episode 2 - not sure why they're there at all. In any event I do find myself looking forward to future episodes. You can tell it is in the MCU as it has the same kind of feel.
That said I'm looking forward to her ditching (hopefully) that cowl - I get the inspiration but it just makes her look a bit boxy.
The series has cool characters. Yeah, there is cringy stuff...but cringy stuff that can happen among teenagers and families.
I mean there have only been two teenage heroes introduced in phase 4 so far. America Chavez and Kamala Khan. that's basically it. compared to who has been introduced they are far outnumbered; Moon Knight, Kate Bishop, Yelena, Black Knight, Blade (sorta), Clea, Maria Rambeau, Shang-Chi, the Eternals, Eros. Soon you can add She-Hulk to that list as well.
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yeah I agree with that assessment. feels very much like the first spider-man movie from 2002
Kate Bishop comes off very teenagery, despite what her actual show age might be. It's part of the reason why my wife and I couldn't finish Hawkeye and aren't huge fans of MCU Spider-Man. Kamala left us a bit cold in the same way.
And I'm not using teenager in the sense of the drama and love life and whatnot typically associated with teens in film. I'm thinking more of the utter disrespect for anyone older than them and constantly treating everything like it's all a game. With MCU Spidey I can at least assume it's because he never got the Uncle Ben "responsibility" moment, at least until May in NWH, so I'm hoping he's more grounded in the future. But all three of them act in a manner that no one ever did when I was a teenager. Other people's experiences may be different, of course, but that's how it was for us and these characters all grate on our nerves.
This show kinda feels like Never Have I Ever with superhero powers thrown on top. And I'm okay with that.
There have been a few soft introductions as well.
Though they weren't teenagers, they very well might be soon in the MCU: Wiccan, Speed, and Stature
In Falcon and the Winter Soldier: Patriot
In the Loki show: Kid Loki
Since Kang is an established villain, the set up for Young Avengers is slowly coming together. As the OG Avengers will likely age out of their roles, and want to free up time for other projects, Young Avengers are a good fit to continue the Avengers story in the MCU.
RIP Genn Greymane, Permabanned on 8.22.18
Your name will carry on through generations, and will never be forgotten.
Those two seasons are indeed the odd ones out, but they take place more than a year into what would be the snap. There's nothing outright denying that the snap has taken place.
If they wanted to, there's plenty of ways they could explains it away. Whether they'd be good explanations is of course a different matter, but it could be done.
This came out hot but has done progressively smaller streaming numbers and is not trending very high. This probably gonna up being a "Hawkeye" performer for Disney+.
I think other studios are gonna feel more confident counter-programming the D+ streaming shows after Moon Knight, Obi-Wan, and Ms. Marvel.
And where, pray tell, are you pulling this out of?
It's rated higher than Black Panther was, and despite the massive campaign to review bomb it, it's not far behind in audience scores either (97% and 84% respectively on Rotten Tomatoes, and 6.2/10 on IMDB).
So hilarious when people like you try to act like you're talking out of anything but your backside.
And nothing about that sentence makes any sense to me. How do you "counter-program" a streaming service other than by simply existing.I think other studios are gonna feel more confident counter-programming the D+ streaming shows after Moon Knight, Obi-Wan, and Ms. Marvel.
"Oh Harriet, I don't know. Ms. Marvel is being released at midnight today, and so are these two other shows on different streaming services. Since we can't possibly watch them whenever the fuck we want, which one are we going to watch?!?!"
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