Should Lordaeron City become neutral? [9.2.5 spoilers]

[Ardenaso]

I mean reparations is usually a thing that happens after a war. If not Lordaeron then they should at the very least pay for/rebuild everything that the Alliance lost whilst fighting them.

they lost Horde lands in Stromgarde

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and southern Lordaeron

[shise]

Should it? No

Will it? Who knows.

Blizzard has done dumber stuff so anything goes.

Why shouldn´t it, tho?

The Alliance denied the undead, who were humans the day before they called them mosters...

The undead found a home there.

We, Alliance, as guilty of pushing the undead and the blood elf away when they came to us in peace, offering their everything to us in exchange for a peaceful coexistence.

So it could be fair to do this, finally find peace with the undead. It is also now or never as they are at their lowest point.. so maybe this time a bit of affection would make the trick.

[Hitei]

The Forsaken claim to Lordaeron City is that they're the undead citizens of said city.

They're really undead citizens of the country the city happens to be in, more than citizens of the city. A bit like someone in the post apocalypse claiming they have a right to the White House, Capitol building and surrounding "National Mall" area simply because they're "a citizen of Maryland". This whole claim thing is pretty silly though. Living somewhere doesn't give you the claim to anything, owning land in some official matter does, and owning land is a non-absolute system which ultimately breaks down to basically who has control. You could have been born and raised in a house and lived there from birth until you were 65, but if you aren't the actual owner of the house and have been renting the entire time, what claim do you have?

The Scarlet Crusade and Silver Hand have the exact same "claim" to Lordaeron the Forsaken have, being living citizens of those exact same lands and cities. Turalyon, for example, is not only a born citizen of Lordaeron, he was born into nobility in Lordaeron. Which means he has more of a claim than the majority of Forsaken.

None of it matters. A city (or Kingdom) belongs to whoever controls it. If you're adhering to some sort of "legal" codified, system, then it generally belongs to whoever holds the deed, or was given the title and land by the ruling power who controls it. Prior to the fall of Lordaeron, the capital didn't belong to the citizens of Lordaeron, it belonged to house Menethil, after the fall, it belonged to the scourge and any claim to it was lost because the entire ruling system was defunct. After that it belonged to the Forsaken until they abandoned it at the siege of Lordaeron to the Alliance.

Like most places, none of the involved groups have any more claim than any of the others, they're all just people who have controlled the city at one point, usually taking over the region by military strength before being replaced also by military strength.

[Varodoc]

The Forsaken claim to Lordaeron City is that they're the undead citizens of said city.

The Ren'Dorei are elves. They have no claim to Lordaeron.

The rest of your argument seems to be:

-Sylvanas said all Forsaken are entitled to Lordaeron
-The Ren'dorei dark rangers are still Forsaken because Alonsous Faol was referred to as "Forsaken" despite being neutral
-Ergo the ren'dorei dark rangers have a claim to Lordaeron

Here are some problems with that:
1) again, the Forsaken claim is because the bulk of their faction are Lordaeroni citizens, which the elves are not. Not on Sylvanas' opinion
2) who cares what Sylvanas thinks, she's a traitor to the Horde/Forsaken
3) the alonsous faol point ignores all the times where the "Forsaken" are clearly a specific faction of undead loosely aligned with the Horde, not all undead
4) you're taking an obvious QoL decision to keep the RP'ers who endlessly whinged for High Elves from rioting and trying to extrapolate serious lore from it. No, it's just a customization Blizz is giving to all elves

If you want to ignore Sylvanas' words on the basis that she was a psycho who betrayed the Horde, alright, that's fair.

But it is worth noting that Anasterian sent formal aid to Lordaeron during the Scourging and several elves lived abroad anyway, in Dalaran but potentially in Lordaeron too. So you can easily RP the Dark Ranger as either an elf who was sent to help Lordaeron and died to defend it, or an elf who was born in Lordaeron and considered that their home.

But perhaps it is also worth noting that, realistically, there's no way to know how many modern Forsaken are truly "from Lordaeron". Remember how they were mass-raising Gilneans and Alliance troops in Cataclysm? It wouldn't surprise me if the "fresh" Forsaken from other parts of the continent have outnumbered the original Lordaeronians.

[Traveler Voltin]

I mean reparations is usually a thing that happens after a war. If not Lordaeron then they should at the very least pay for/rebuild everything that the Alliance lost whilst fighting them.

technically horde never lost. the sylvanas loyalist did.

[Rhlor]

how about this? I'd assume Deathholme is the kind of really-really-unhealable blight if the Sin'dorei would ever be able to heal the Ghostlands with the help of the Argent Crusade, Earthen Ring, and Cenarion Circle

This is better

[Grazrug]

No they should not. Lordaeron belongs to the Forsaken. Just because alliance fanboys are greedy jerks doesent mean Blizzard should cater to their wishes.

[Grazrug]

This is better

This is literally the worst deal ever. Alliance should be kicked out. Full stop.