smaller dragon ? that would be so stupid Just pimp a bit those dractyhrs and its fine.
... Smaller dragons thats haha omg hilarious
smaller dragon ? that would be so stupid Just pimp a bit those dractyhrs and its fine.
... Smaller dragons thats haha omg hilarious
All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.
And I gave you exactly that. Several times over. Blizzard saying dracthyrs are not dragons because they're hybrids. Words from an official video, the deep-dive. But you just continue to ignore that, pretending that video doesn't exist.
I never said she is one, I said she looks like a blood elf, while the female dracthyr looks like a human female. Stop misrepresenting.Except Alexstraza is not a Blood Elf.
For someone who doesn't like hearing opinions, you sure love to spout yours, don't you?And it is dumb,
Maybe they didn't name the playable race "dragon" because the race isn't a dragon?which is why Blizzard didn't name their playable dragon race or class "dragon".
So now what others RPGs do matter? We're not talking about other RPGs, we're talking about WoW. But speaking of "any other RPG", you know what we find in many other RPGs? A class named "bard". Food for thought, next time you decide to bring in what other RPGs did/are doing.It's also why you'd be hard pressed to find a race or class called "dragon" in pretty much any RPG.
I've already have, and have shown it to you several times over, but you just keep ignoring it.Let me know when you find that Blizzard quote.
"Torturing someone is not an evil thing to do if it is done for good reasons" by Varodoc
"You sit in OG/SW waiting on a Mythic+ queue" by Altmer <- Oh, the pearls in this forum...
"They sort of did this Dragonriding, which ushered in the Dracthyr race." by Teriz <- the BS some people reach for their narratives...
Blizzard calling them hybrids =/= Blizzard saying they are not dragons
Human females don’t have pointy ears and dragon horns protruding from their heads.I never said she is one, I said she looks like a blood elf, while the female dracthyr looks like a human female. Stop misrepresenting.
Also I notice you’re not saying anything about a Dracthyr being able to resemble Wrathion in visage form.
Well Blizzard has referred to the dracthyr as dragons on multiple occasions, so that clearly isn’t true.Maybe they didn't name the playable race "dragon" because the race isn't a dragon?
Wow, you took that entire statement out of context.So now what others RPGs do matter? We're not talking about other RPGs, we're talking about WoW. But speaking of "any other RPG", you know what we find in many other RPGs? A class named "bard". Food for thought, next time you decide to bring in what other RPGs did/are doing.
Like I said, Blizzard calling them hybrids =/= Blizzard saying they are not dragons.I've already have, and have shown it to you several times over, but you just keep ignoring it.
Still waiting…..
It is Blizzard calling them "not dragons" when they specifically mention one of the constituents of the hybridization is of non-dragon origin. And this fact is what you keep ignoring.
Human females have distinct body shape, size and animations from blood elves.Human females don’t have pointy ears and dragon horns protruding from their heads.
It also doesn't, because Wrathion and Kalecgos look like humans, and don't have all scales permeating the visage form the dracthyr has.Also I notice you’re not saying anything about a Dracthyr being able to resemble Wrathion in visage form.
Not my fault you can't distinguish PR speech from actual deep-dive explanations.Well Blizzard has referred to the dracthyr as dragons on multiple occasions, so that clearly isn’t true.
I haven't. You brought up "what RPGs are doing". I simply pointed out how you like to cherry pick "what RPGs are doing".Wow, you took that entire statement out of context.
And like I demonstrated, you're wrong.Like I said, Blizzard calling them hybrids =/= Blizzard saying they are not dragons.
You mean "still ignoring"?Still waiting…..
"Torturing someone is not an evil thing to do if it is done for good reasons" by Varodoc
"You sit in OG/SW waiting on a Mythic+ queue" by Altmer <- Oh, the pearls in this forum...
"They sort of did this Dragonriding, which ushered in the Dracthyr race." by Teriz <- the BS some people reach for their narratives...
No they’re not. You’re calling them non-dragons based on your interpretation of the word “hybrid”. Which is beyond stupid because you’re using a real world terminology to describe a fantasy. The dracthyr are hybrids via magic, not through two different organisms having sex and having children. Blizzard themselves have called Dracthyrs dragons on multiple occasions.
There’s a difference. It’s ridiculous that I even need to explain this to you.
Again though, we’re not dealing with real elves or humans, we’re dealing with dragons interpreting a mortal form.Human females have distinct body shape, size and animations from blood elves.
You do know that you don’t have to have scales in the dracthyr visage form right? That’s completely optional.It also doesn't, because Wrathion and Kalecgos look like humans, and don't have all scales permeating the visage form the dracthyr has.
So when Blizzard says something that directly contradicts your opinion, it’s just “PR talk”?Not my fault you can't distinguish PR speech from actual deep-dive explanations.
Hilarious.
Still waiting….
That would be awesome. I'd love my Tauren dragon.
I'd have loved this concept that I've seen people post where you'd have a dragon-themed whatever-race-you-selected. Then let us transform into a big dragon for flight form and cooldowns, but otherwise fight in mortal form that looks as awesome as this:
Imagine you look this cool, fight with dragon spells and/or melee attacks, and then hit your 3 min cooldown and become a big ass dragon that blasts fire all over to annihilate things.
Instead..... we are getting furries.
I'm not using "my own interpretation of the word". I'm using the actual definition of the word that you find in every single english dictionary in the planet.
It doesn't matter if it's a fantasy world, a sci-fi world, or whatever. It still needs to be described to us, and Blizzard has to use the real-world english language to do so, which means using real-world definition for words such as "hybrid".Which is beyond stupid because you’re using a real world terminology to describe a fantasy.
It doesn't matter if the hybridization happened through biology, science or magic. A hybrid is a hybrid. The definition of the word doesn't change regardless of the method used for the hybridization.The dracthyr are hybrids via magic, not through two different organisms having sex and having children.
On interviews and when they were trying to hype up the product. In other words: PR speech. It's amusing how you keep ignoring the one time when Blizzard doesn't use PR speech to describe the race.Blizzard themselves have called Dracthyrs dragons on multiple occasions.
Which you apparently insist on not learning.There’s a difference.
You're the one bringing up "real elves or humans". You're tossing red herrings to try to dilute the conversation. You're playing semantics here, since no one but you are talking about "real elves or humans".Again though, we’re not dealing with real elves or humans, we’re dealing with dragons interpreting a mortal form.
I'll believe it when I see it. So far, all promotional material showed them with scales and horns.You do know that you don’t have to have scales in the dracthyr visage form right? That’s completely optional.
No. When Blizzard developers and CMs are told to perform certain tasks, such as damage control or hype up their products, such as when they're interviewed, PR speech is the norm. That's basic knowledge.So when Blizzard says something that directly contradicts your opinion, it’s just “PR talk”?
Again: you mean "still ignoring".Still waiting….
"Torturing someone is not an evil thing to do if it is done for good reasons" by Varodoc
"You sit in OG/SW waiting on a Mythic+ queue" by Altmer <- Oh, the pearls in this forum...
"They sort of did this Dragonriding, which ushered in the Dracthyr race." by Teriz <- the BS some people reach for their narratives...
They also call Cloud Serpents “dragons.” They aren’t. Same for fey dragons. And literally everything in their “Dragon Pack” or whatever were not dragons.
They use the term in passing a lot more liberally than the actual lore does. And they acknowledge this. You should, too.
How would people call Blizzard lazy for giving every race and future race a new class(race)? There's literally only 2 dragons that show any dragon aspects in their visage forms and one of them only started showing horns after the Cataclysm occurred. You could also argue that because Ysera and Alexstrasza have headpieces them showing their horns is intended to appear as part of their crowns/tiara. They could disable the racial traits of the "race" you pick and have the racial traits tied into the Dracthyr "class". It's much more lazy to slap some ugly shit on a female human and male elf and call it good.
So a magical winged reptile creature with high intelligence that breathes fire and has the powers of the dragonflights isn’t a dragon?
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So again, where did Blizzard say that a creature created by magically combining the essences of dragons and the adaptability of mortals could not be a dragon?
It doesn't work that way. By the english definition of the word "hybrid", the result of a hybridization cannot be the same type as one of its constituents, when both constituents are of different types. But if you want to claim that Blizzard is using a different definition of the word, then it's up to you to show where Blizzard specifically said that they're using a different definition for the word "hybrid". And considering the explanation given in the deep-dive, they are using the standard definition.
"Torturing someone is not an evil thing to do if it is done for good reasons" by Varodoc
"You sit in OG/SW waiting on a Mythic+ queue" by Altmer <- Oh, the pearls in this forum...
"They sort of did this Dragonriding, which ushered in the Dracthyr race." by Teriz <- the BS some people reach for their narratives...
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"Torturing someone is not an evil thing to do if it is done for good reasons" by Varodoc
"You sit in OG/SW waiting on a Mythic+ queue" by Altmer <- Oh, the pearls in this forum...
"They sort of did this Dragonriding, which ushered in the Dracthyr race." by Teriz <- the BS some people reach for their narratives...
You can show him all the wowpedia pages, link him dictionary definitions, show him how Faerie dragons aren't dragons even though they are called dragons, explain science to him, show him quotes from the devs saying they are draconic and not dragons, get Ion to specifically state they are not dragons, have the actual expansion explain they aren't all you want but he's just going to keep saying "But they said dragon!"
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Yes, a quote from yourself. I’m waiting for a quote from a Blizzard developer. Again, I’m not interested in your opinion.
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Because this audience has shown the desire to complain about anything. People would demand more than just the ability to play any race. They would want those races to also have customizable options like what the visage forms are getting.
Incorrect. Wrathion has burning red eyes, which indicates his true nature, and Kalecgos has blue hair, which humans can’t have unless they’re of the blue Dragonflight.There's literally only 2 dragons that show any dragon aspects in their visage forms and one of them only started showing horns after the Cataclysm occurred. You could also argue that because Ysera and Alexstrasza have headpieces them showing their horns is intended to appear as part of their crowns/tiara.
The official Blizzard deep-dive video is an official Blizzard developer source.
But you keep ignoring it.
As I pointed out several times, the official Blizzard deep-dive video is not my opinion.Again, I’m not interested in your opinion.
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Teriz is a dishonest one, and one example of evidence of such is how he claimed that the average D&D dragonborn player is a fetishist that likes to portray their dragonborn characters as big-breasted lizard thots.
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Also, @Teriz, here's more evidence that Blizzard likes to play 'fast-and-loose' with the word 'dragon'. The Dragon Pack contains:
• Sylverian Dreamer
• Enchanted Fey Dragon
• Steamscale Incinerator
• Iron Skyreaver
• Heart of the Aspects
• Soul of the Aspects
• Blinky
And of these seven "dragons":
• Fey Dragons are not dragons.
• The Steamscale Dragon is not an actual dragon. It's a machine that looks like one.
• The Iron Skyreaver is not a dragon.
• Blinky is also not a dragon.
So out of the seven items in the so-called "dragon pack", only three out of four items are actual dragons.
"Torturing someone is not an evil thing to do if it is done for good reasons" by Varodoc
"You sit in OG/SW waiting on a Mythic+ queue" by Altmer <- Oh, the pearls in this forum...
"They sort of did this Dragonriding, which ushered in the Dracthyr race." by Teriz <- the BS some people reach for their narratives...