Amazon should earn money.
But Blizzard musn't.
Youtubers/streamers decided that long time ago(nobody even compared Immortal to Lost Ark so far).
Don't act like you have an opinion - you are nothing, but the voice these content creators.
Oh i totally agree with you. Thing is at this point fighting against it seems pointless. I rather just move to another game. I usually don't enjoy the grind loops involved in "free" games and luckily there are many games to be enjoyed out there.
But of course i'd love a good D4, not filled with predatory stuff. Then again, at this point in time, i don't count on that at all.
You have Crest and Eternal Crest. The free eternal crests only reward soulbound gems. The paid Eternal Crest can reward unbound gems that can be sold on the marketplace. This is why it was silly of you to get upset over me saying eternal crest instead of legendary gem. You can also craft legendary gems with runes that come from use a Crest which is another way a free player that plays a lot can potentially have more power then a person that plays a little and paid a little.
But your argument would fall apart if you didn't deflect and trying to outright dismiss anything said because a person can't have played a game if they don't hold the same opinion of it as you. Strange, right? I'm curious though have you plaid the game to Hell 2+? Did you buy any power? Is the reason why you are so upset over having a bump in difficulty because you can't handle Hell 2+?
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
In my opinion Lost Ark is almost just as shit as D:I and I played both.
Lost Ark absolutely does not shy away from selling power and employs quite a bit of D:I's repertoire to do so. D:I still elevates it to the next level, but Lost Ark absolutely is yet another case of this crap seeping into PC and what's worse becoming accepted there.
Thats my main gripe with this and marketing games to kids that have gambling and utilizing psychology tricks they've paid experts to research
Developers used to fear a backlash from gamers at the mere mention of "p2w"
Blizzard have been smart with this "mobile game". So Now that when D4 comes out they can milk the fuck out of that and everyone who was saying
"Its a mobile game thats what they are like!"
Will be saying
"They did it with Diablo immortal why are you still moaning about it now, thats like SO 2022...."
Sighhhh
As someone that has been playing Diablo Immortal for free and has not spent even a single penny on it, I'm going to have to disagree with you on basically your entire post. I have also played PoE for free and also enjoyed that game, also without ever spending a single penny. There is nothing in the game that "literally forces you to spend money." That would be called theft. It is entirely up to the player and their self-control whether they spend or not, Blizzard is quite literally incapable of forcing you or anyone else to spend money, at least not without massive lawsuits. Your enjoyment of the game isn't dictated by the cost. Many pay-to-play games are massively unfun, while many free-to-play, pay-for-cosmetic games are massively fun. If YOU are unable to enjoy the game without spending money, that is entirely a YOU problem. Again I want to make it clear, I agree that Diablo Immortal is heavy-handed on the monetization, but at no point does it "force" you to spend money on it.
Yeah thats not a fair comparison though. People have their own computers now AND pay for the product of the game.
Arcades you were paying to use the machine as much as playing the game.
Now we've gone backwards where we are no longer able to pay for the game for our PC or mobile and we pay for the service again.
So yay regression i guess?
Can anyone come up with a better answer than "Thats what mobile games do!"
Why?
Why is it ok to be free to play and target whales to the point these games are making upwards 100k+ a month?
Why do PC and mobile have to be in their own lanes? Because they sure as shit are gonna be bringing more of these monetization practices into PC games after the success with mobile.
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
You're comparing netflix which is totally different.
They've taken on massive debt to be a front runner in a new industry. Their business model doesnt even look sustainable as evident by their constant sub member price hike.
Tell it to me like im a 5 year old how thats the same thing as an established industry giant with near unlimited resources and backing needs to out source to china to have them create a mobile game that uses state of the art predatory practises.
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See what i mean? my point exactly. "They did it back in 2014!"
Grandfathered principle is fine I guess. Cant make this stuff up.
So complaining over the past 8 years didn't change anything why do you think do so will change things now? Your point is flawed. Blizzard already was terrible yet you, and others, still played and consumed Blizzards content. Or even worse you, and others, quit playing and consuming content but still devote energy towards surrounding yourself with Blizzard things even though you hate everything they stand for.
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
Not the same?
Okay... I'm not convinced. They are providing a platform, you login to a server, you gain access to the resource.
Both require same technology. And running this - requires substantial staffing, a datacenter, management team and call center(most likely a catina, cleaners, office bills etc.).
So tell me - why does Netflix cost or how should Blizzard earn money in this case?
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