Literally nothing about it excites me, not even a little.
I made the mistake of listening to an old guildmate without looking into it, and now I'm stuck playing for six months with nothing to really look forward to.
Literally nothing about it excites me, not even a little.
I made the mistake of listening to an old guildmate without looking into it, and now I'm stuck playing for six months with nothing to really look forward to.
Yes. Either players here never really experienced it, or they forgot what actual discovery is like.
I would take a zero outside tested, zero beta expansion any day of the friggin week over one that's had everyone and their mother play testing it for months. Bring on all the bugs, all the wonky interactions, all the undiscovered OP combos that are sure to get nerfed.
You know how uninspiring and outright lame it is to have video guides up for everything BEFORE release?
Starting fresh, every single person on the same footing, day 1 knowledge is zero. Now THAT'S an experience.
Except half of the things that people have said throughout SL were things that "should have been that way from the start" or "told them about during the beta" were not things that should have been that way from the start so I'd be fine if they got little feedback since the players seem to be entitled little snowflakes on these forums.
I wish Blizz would go this way, however they'd really need to change their internal testing to accommodate it. I suppose the low-hanging fruit joke is "with how much Blizz ignores feedback on the alpha/beta, it wouldn't feel any different." Honestly, they do listen to some feedback, but the way they operate and manage their testing phases has gotten worse and worse over time. It's almost like Blizz feels like they have to let players test out of obligation, but don't put in the proper structure or guidance for feedback that is needed to make it worthwhile.
Outside of a very small group of testers, most people just go onto the beta or PTR to dick around or see the content, but they don't test it nor provide feedback. Probably can never avoid this unless they started restricting invites to people who actually give feedback in a previous testing phase. However, Blizz rarely ever told the players what specifically they're looking at or what feedback they're looking for, or the scope was so vague it could be anything. This causes several problems, but the main issue is that feedback they receive that could be important but not related to what they're looking for gets ignore or thrown out. This is the best case scenario of what happens to all the feedback about systems and issues in the testing phase that make it to live that 'catch Blizz by surprise' somehow... worst case, they just don't care or ignore it for other reasons. Regardless, I don't think the player testing model is in a good spot, and now would be the time to axe it if internal testing can deal with it.
However, I don't see this happening soon because they don't have the bodies to do this. Maybe that new absorbed company would provide the bodies they need to do proper internal testing? Who knows.
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the amount of trash packs that are super dangerous will either be skipped or worked out with stuns
i know DH will keep their interrupts because its a dps increase
warriors have insane stuns
idk a single mage that wont have spellsteal because it is so freaking useful
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swappable covenants
valor
maw and leveling skips
conduit swapping made easy
yeah those are totally bad because now
i can play with all 4 new abilities my class was given instead of waiting two weeks just because
i get rewards for doing content daily that i then use to upgrade my gear
leveling now works THE SAME IT HAS SINCE WoD
i can also play multiple specs
People were mad that borrowed power was so important. They remove borrowed power. People are mad that there the expansion seems boring. It's actually hilarious.
Personally I think the new class is 100x more interesting than a Tinker class would have been. The dragon riding and profession revamps both seem interesting. Seems like it'll be fine, there will just be less to do outside of arenas/raiding/m+, which considering the content that usually exists outside of those things is just a massive grind I don't see the problem.
Quests not working, getting stuck, NPCs not spawning.. you can't honestly believe bugs are only fun/quirky things.
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Having played since Vanilla, yes I do know. It's just an ideal world dream scenario though, considering how much free testing and advertising (mainly advertising) a public beta is.
I like how we have come to the point where we can call content we have yet to even experience boring. Then again, welcome to the player's world, if there is nothing they like, it is boring. Not much I like in it either but just like Shadowlands, my judgment will be after the expansion is over. Shadowlands overall has a bad rating for me, the winning points are as always, art/music, and 9.2/9.2.5, and soon 9.2.7.
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You know, borrowed power and content/interesting features are not the same. Having features that disappear after an expansion is annoying, we still want features, just that they stay around and build up the game overtime.
The things that dragonflight have currently announced as "features" are also alright, but there is just very little gameplay in them. Its starting to look a little like WoD, where the game had a lot of fluf, but outside the daily grind, there was very little to do in them.
Revamp of professions and talents is nice, same with dragon riding, but that is stuff that should come as a bonus, not as the main attraction.
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Unless you are ready to waste 2 years of subscrption, maybe it is good make atleast initial judgment on observation. Besides, previous experience have shown that such observations often are right.
May the lore be great and the stories interesting. A game without a story, is a game without a soul. Value the lore and it will reward you with fun!
Don't let yourself be satisfied with what you expect and what you seem as obvious. Ask for something good, surprising and better. Your own standards ends up being other peoples standard.
Lmao you dont even know.
You judge a book by its cover.
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Except it has 0 to do with that, if you were on the forum longer you'd know. But let me explain. Over the past few expansions we had metric fuckton of Tinker fanboys making accounts, alt accounts etc to twist every expansion thread to Tinker, at their head is Teriz, the worst offender by far. Every time they get proven wrong, the goalpost switch with:
"NONONO! I mean next expansion fur realz!"
Or as Teriz now does
"No! I never said tinker like ever! You just can't read. I meant a HOTS class!!!"
People are sick and tired of ingorant posters twisting everything towards a class.
So OP, DF is boring? Tell me about how you've played the expansion. What are the dungeons like? What do they have for end game activities? How was the leveling design? Are the armor sets good? Have you done the raid yet?
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We have a club. We meet to complain about Tinker fans every Tuesday.
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This sums up my feelings so far as well. Its the first expansion that I haven't jumped on the pre-order for. Its just boring, at least what they have shown so far which is concerning for a game coming out in 7 months. The new race just looks weird, I know that is subjective, but even its casting is strange. Oh well, maybe I am finally hitting a wall with this game after nearly 2 decades.
You make it sound like there's only three people who would like to see that class. Also, that doesn't match up with what I've seen of the discussion thus far in a handful of threads I've browsed through. If anyone's moving goalposts, it's the people coming up with excuses about why they don't want the class. "We already have engineering" "we're tired of people talking about them" "it's just one person using tons of alt accounts" etc.
It's sheer demand, history, and appropriateness to the setting almost assures that it'll be included eventually. Especially with Microsoft taking over.
Yea, I mean you can't even play Dragonflight. BOOOOORRRRRRING!!!!!!