Supreme Court might destroy voting rights.

[Dontrike]

I mean if highly restrictive voting laws translate into have identification to vote that is only a positive.

"I like when minorities don't vote" is all you said there.

[Shadowferal]

Here's hoping for another win from this great SCOTUS we have going atm. Just win after win for republicans.

How's Trump's little comeback working out? His cute temper tantrum during Jan 6th didn't do him any favors.

[Tentim]

"I like when minorities don't vote" is all you said there.

If you wanna read it that way sure. I can understand why you wouldn't want non citizens voting though.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

They 100% are going to do it. The supreme court is just a twitch stream podcast level of values that is just about "pwn the libz" at this point anymore.

[Mekh]

If you wanna read it that way sure. I can understand why you wouldn't want non citizens voting though.

Regularly scheduled reminder that like 99% of cases of voter fraud were commited by GOP voting US citizens, sometimes while in office themselves.

[Darththeo]

I mean if highly restrictive voting laws translate into have identification to vote that is only a positive. I can't see how gerrymandering would be seen as a positive though.

Voter ID is stupid and doesn't actually make elections safer. It is just theater and literally a non-issue because 1) all states already have ID requirements that have worked for decades with little issue and 2) unless everyone can get a photo ID for free, it is unconstitutional to require a photo ID.

The whole "Require Photo ID" argument is just stupid.

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If you wanna read it that way sure. I can understand why you wouldn't want non citizens voting though.

Most fraud is done by registered voters. Fraud in general is rare, it is even rarer if done by a non-citizen.

[s_bushido]

I can understand why you wouldn't want non citizens voting though.

...non-citizens can't even register to vote. I would say "I have no idea" where you got the idea that they were voting...but that would be a lie.

[Dontrike]

If you wanna read it that way sure. I can understand why you wouldn't want non citizens voting though.

Non citizens don't vote, but last I saw was a bunch of red hats voting twice this election. Way to think every minority is an illegal though.

[fwc577]

...non-citizens can't even register to vote. I would say "I have no idea" where you got the idea that they were voting...but that would be a lie.

Probably knows a guy who knows a guy who saw the dems bussing in busses full of illegal migrants to vote for Biden so he could win 2020.

[Belize]

And I think they have a good chance of winning.

At this point, the SCOTUS has thrown out all pretense of impartiality, so the GOP could just bring cases forward with the argument of "fuck you, that's why" and it'd go 6-3 in their favor.

[downnola]

If you wanna read it that way sure. I can understand why you wouldn't want non citizens voting though.

Because immigrants that live here aren't affected by local, state, and federal law the same way someone born here is right?

[david0925]

What's left on the agenda for this session?

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What, specifically, would you suggest Biden do then? Give us the "radical" moves you think he should make, and why they would work.

Enshrining Christianity as national official national religion and complete removal of LGBTQ rights.

But Democrats supporters will still be too busy having infighting about other issues.

[Fugus]

I mean if highly restrictive voting laws translate into have identification to vote that is only a positive. I can't see how gerrymandering would be seen as a positive though.

Let’s put this lie to rest.

1) As others have said, non-citizens can’t register to vote in federal elections and for state elections that is at the will of that area which generally they don’t allow either and those that do still require the non-citizens to legally be there as we can them be here legally for decades without being a citizen.

2) Voter fraud statistically is a non issue as has been established multiple times with the main offenders being Republicans and voter fraud is never the reason for voter ID laws with many of the politicians pushing it having openly admitting it on camera.

3) The actual use of voter ID laws is to block LEGAL voters from being able to vote strategically.

When North Carolina tried to implement ours the GOP was so brazen they even did studies to find out which IDs minorities were most likely to lack so they could require them.

In Texas they started strategically closing ID stations and cutting their hours to make it harder to get an ID where if you were a minority you could be stuck driving up to 2 counties over to get one but would have to try and the place may only be open 2 days a week for 4 to 5 hours when you were most like to work as well to get it.

They also had made it where your hunting license was good enough to vote but your college ID was not while also making its polling stations as hard to get to for those minorities and college students as possible while making sure it took hours in line to vote and so on.

So no, the voter ID laws aren’t a good thing in the slightest as they solve no issues and create many more and cut at least ten million legal votes for every 1 theoretical case of voter fraud it would stop.

[gondrin]

Let’s put this lie to rest.

1) As others have said, non-citizens can’t register to vote in federal elections and for state elections that is at the will of that area which generally they don’t allow either and those that do still require the non-citizens to legally be there as we can them be here legally for decades without being a citizen.

2) Voter fraud statistically is a non issue as has been established multiple times with the main offenders being Republicans and voter fraud is never the reason for voter ID laws with many of the politicians pushing it having openly admitting it on camera.

3) The actual use of voter ID laws is to block LEGAL voters from being able to vote strategically.

When North Carolina tried to implement ours the GOP was so brazen they even did studies to find out which IDs minorities were most likely to lack so they could require them.

In Texas they started strategically closing ID stations and cutting their hours to make it harder to get an ID where if you were a minority you could be stuck driving up to 2 counties over to get one but would have to try and the place may only be open 2 days a week for 4 to 5 hours when you were most like to work as well to get it.

They also had made it where your hunting license was good enough to vote but your college ID was not while also making its polling stations as hard to get to for those minorities and college students as possible while making sure it took hours in line to vote and so on.

So no, the voter ID laws aren’t a good thing in the slightest as they solve no issues and create many more and cut at least ten million legal votes for every 1 theoretical case of voter fraud it would stop.

Yep. The problem with voter ID is the fact that it has ALWAYS been to restrict minorities and poor people from voting.

If Voter ID was such a needed thing, then it should be free and sent out to everyone who wanted one. But everything the GOP has done with voting has been to restrict voting outright.

[Edge-]

If you wanna read it that way sure. I can understand why you wouldn't want non citizens voting though.

That's literally the history of Republican efforts to pass voter-ID laws. The totality of it. And they've largely all been tossed out by the courts for being fairly explicitly racist in their intent to disenfranchise poor voters, primarily poor voters of color.

[CastletonSnob]

Just think: We wouldn't be in the situation we are now if Hillary had campaigned harder in the Rust Belt.

Hillary wasn't a great candidate, but she was INFINITELY better than Trump.

[zEmini]

Just another reason to abolish the EC and go by popular vote.

If electors go against the will of the people, then i fully endorse not paying taxes anymore. Bring on the Tax Strike.

[Mihalik]

If you wanna read it that way sure. I can understand why you wouldn't want non citizens voting though.

It's an imaginary problem.

Cite 100 proven cases of non citizens voting since 2012. Like give me some sort of evidence that isn't "Rudy Giuliani says so, except in court when he doesn't".

Please.

Even the CATO institute thinks the whole non-citizens voting thing is bullshit.

https://www.cato.org/blog/noncitizen...ctable-numbers

Oddly, I'm actually in favor of voter ID laws.

Except. I'm only in favor of voter ID laws if first we fucking fix our Social Security number system and introduce a universal biometric ID system that is issued freely or at cost of printing to everyone from age 14 up.

And second, we eliminate voter registration allowing all citizens to simply show up with their government issued ID to vote or send in their vote.

Like the rest of the fucking civilized world.

[gondrin]

If you wanna read it that way sure. I can understand why you wouldn't want non citizens voting though.

Ok, you made the claim, prove it. Prove that non citizens are voting in any amount for federal elections(not state elections as states can decide that for themselves and that has very little to do with federal). Prove it. Not using random conspiracy theories about how they might be, actual hard evidence with the physical stuff tied to it. Not "This person said that this person claimed that they saw someone possibly telling someone else to bring people to vote somewhere they shouldn't be."

Actual hard evidence. I know I wont get it as the bridge this person came under is beginning to look like a clown car with the amount of trolls coming out from under it.

[Edge-]

If you wanna read it that way sure. I can understand why you wouldn't want non citizens voting though.

Despite decades of Republicans pearl clutching and shreiking about voter fraud, they have yet to actually show any evidence of voter fraud. There's the odd-case here or there - in recent years they've primarily been Republican voters in an amusing tidbit - but there's absolutely zero evidence supporting widespread voter fraud.

As I already wrote, it's just a dog whistle to push legislation to disenfranchise poor, mostly minority communities who tend to vote Democrat. And these laws have been rightfully tossed out of court as a result.