lost ark,you cant pay non stop with no limit,you dont need 500k to max it out,it uses some shady methods to make you spend,but not LITERALY ALL like di immoral....this isnt an anti blizzard thing,the game is also trash compared to lost ark
di immoral isnt even a game,its a slot machine,the rift is just there to hide the lootbox
True ... too many people accepted and ate the shit that was handed to them, just because a game was offered for free. And that shit grew larger and larger, to the point where having to eat it is normal. Some people probably don't even know what a game would be like without all of that crap.
Last edited by kranur; 2022-07-03 at 12:40 PM.
Because mobile p2w market is all like that, DI and games alike. You want best gear, best progression, best pvp experience ( in case the game has it ) - you pay up or enjoy free events/other stuff in moderation. It became a norm quite a few years ago.
So comparing PC titles to mobile titles is pretty much useless. Coz they are developed with different goals/payment models in mind ( usually )
You can play Hearthstone without monetary transactions even coming into question. As someone who exclusively plays solo adventures and tavern brawls, card packs and deck-building are practically nonexistent to my personal style of play
how does any of that actualy adress my question?WHY IS IT LIKE THAT??
free 2 play games,can make money and be good,genshin impact is a very good mobile game,quality games can be made for mobile
path of exile,a completly free non p2w game,still makes milions
im not even against p2w...wow is completly p2w,but its not predatory,you know whats your buying in wow,no tricks,no scams,no bullshit
Genshin Impact has the same p2w without having endgame content You will need to spend huge amounts of money to make your characters perfect. Don't have money? Just enjoy free events and story content every 2 months or so, just like i said.
PoE a great game, a great PC title, not mobile, yeap.
And most p2w mobile have rng ( especially gacha ), so you pay and pray for the best. Just like in DI.
I am not saying that p2w mobile is great, i am saying that it is in that state right now and it will not change unless people stop paying. And guess what? Chance of people doing that are pretty low.
As long as people play and pay, that means they are ok with it - and there is no need for change.
are you on the payroll or something?you actualy are ok with predatory immoral gambling tricks targeted at getting kids addicted to it??wow...
if they were just selling stuff that would be fine,but they arent,they use every trick in the book to hook you on buying,and again...every single trick,from fake discounts,to selling 12 currencies so you never understand what your paying for,to always selling the currencies to short for what you need so you end up buying more,and then you buy more because you have some left right....jesus dude...
True, but it's in their hands. If F2P or light spenders would instantly quit and never touch games like this, they will eventually shift. Because in return whales will also quit. It won't be fun for a whale to dump exaggerate amounts of money and not have any minnows to eat.
But that won't happen because many people are happy like this. "I didn't spend a lot of money, so I deserve to get destroyed, yay"
What? You don't make sense. I don't give a flying f... about DI or any other p2w games, you want it - you play it, you want to be in the top - you pay, you don't want to pay - you stay away from it. I play Genshin and pay 6 bucks a month because i want to, not because there are some PREDATORY TRICKS in play.
If a person doesn't have power of will and is susceptible to such petty tricks - there is one simple solution : don't touch such games.
P.S. Kids as a rule do not have money, adults do.
Last edited by Popastique; 2022-07-03 at 01:39 PM.
DI is not targeted to kids...its even rated "M" on the play store. Also play other mobile games and get a base line, just go to the store and start trying RPGs/ARPGs.. and if you really want a taste of predatory try RTS games where if you don't buy shields for your city when you are offline high lives will steal everything.. games that have limited energy unless you spend real money... I can play DI all day without spending a dime. Hearthstone, however, is rated teen so if anything it's worse being targeted towards kids in that sense.
Last edited by cuafpr; 2022-07-03 at 01:58 PM.
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The issue with Diablo Immortal isn't that it's p2w, it's the predatory nature behind it.
Hearthstone is pay to win, sure. But it doesn't try to pretend that it isn't. It's a trading card game, of course it's pay to win.
Diablo Immortal on the other hand, pretends like it's not. This by the following points:
- D:I profiles itself like a normal Diablo game
- D:I obfuscates your spending by having a multitude of currencies
- D:I uses the indirect purchase model. You purchase units in indiscrete amounts, which can then be spend buying the things you need
If you raise a child that steals your credit card info/money to pay for something - you are an awful parent, IMHO. That's pretty much it.
I don't remember myself doing that in my life coz i had decent parents. But blaming game is strong, always, especially when you don't spend too much time with your kids as a parent and suddenly something happens.