I'm not suggesting you like furries, I simply was pointing out that it's a matter of design, not culture. Secondly, there is a connection—for one, the artist who designed the Dracthyr's model was actually a furry artist (and admittedly a fairly good one—I actually think the 2d art looks really good. Their 3d art seems to be of a different style and vastly lower character design quality than their 2d art). This, of course, does not strictly suggest the Gnoll model was designed by furries, but the neotenous character design is very in-line with furry art. Finally, I'm not saying it's inherently bad that there may have been furries involved, simply that there is a furry-esque character design trend that I think just doesn't fit World of Warcraft's preexisting design tendencies at all and which I think constitutes bad character design for some creatures (such as Gnolls).
Please do not assume I have a political motive—I really don't. My political opinions are hugely out of the standard for the western world and the whole culture war can be very silly. I don't particularly like the furry culture (nothing against the people in themselves, I just find it creepy), but I'm not assuming some kind of insidious conspiracy is going on in Blizzard—I'm simply saying that the new art direction isn't particularly good, clashes with the preexisting style, and that I find it awkward and it also doesn't appeal to me as a matter of opinion.
The second and third I'll grant you as trying to appease public consumers (though this doesn't suggest an internal conspiracy, just responsive marketing and somewhat bad priorities), whereas the first is a response to a specific event and is a matter of reconciling with the public, though not particularly effectively. The Pelagos issue I think is a matter of a specific writer—these suggest responsiveness to a different market, but nothing to indicate an internal conspiracy.
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That's what I was saying—the question was rhetorical.
This thread isn't about furries or unrelated political tweets, let's return to the actual topic of discussion.
"We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead
I don't even label it as a conspiracy, just as a group of people who've taken control through the entire woke decade that's been 2010 onward and are now wasting everyone's time and patience with an attitude that is unbecoming of the game's themes, atmosphere and story, which keep eroding under their guidance.
Yikes. Looks way too cartoonish, even for Wow's standards.
The topic of discussion is "Hogger: WHAT THE FUCK".
In order to understand "what the fuck", you need to determine the root causes that have gotten us here.
Some of these causes are determined by investigating the personalities and beliefs of the artists, which are sometimes revealted through their tweets and personal tendencies.
I doubt Samwise Didier, Chris Metzen and Jason Lee dressed up as blue tigers and proclaimed that all men are evil, if you see where I'm going.
Nah.
They were originally a hybrid of gnomes and trolls (hence their name, which itself came from a poem/story about mythological 'gnoles') and looked like tall but hunched-over goblinoids when they were first introduced in D&D. But Gygax and co. quickly realized how dumb that was, so they 'improved' the concept by giving them a form of hyena lycanthropy. Because, you know, that's just how those guys operated.
It was only then that they evolved into what most people think of as gnolls as more books and editions came out; a race of anthropomorphic hyena-men.
Then Blizzard came along and stole all of their ideas from D&D and Warhammer, leaving people like yourself thinking that they were the original creators of those ideas.
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This is what happens when you hire a bunch of people with no skill but based on race and other stuff.l that isn't relevant to good design.
You get this lame cookie cutter Disney trash, this looks like some furry trash
My problem is that lot of these new models look playdoughy and lack the grit that's often been part of Warcraft artstyle.
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All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.