New U.S. Political Party Being Formed - Forward, Aimed at Moderates on Both Sides

[Cthulhu 2020]

From my perspective, any time I've talked to a so-called "centrist", it inevitably turned out they were a closet conservative after all.

'Basically this. This politics sub forum used to have a lot more right wing posters posing as centrists, or at least claiming to be. But then all they'd do is parrot talking points from Fox News, Stormfront, Yang, their racist grandparents on Facebook, etc. They eventually migrated and only talk in general off topic now, but most of them still claim to be centrists while sporting right wing dog whistles.

[Slant]

The Western Hemisphere(excluding the USA) should largely be copying the USA because we're more prosperous, more innovative, and more productive. Why should we copy other countries that are on average less successful and less productive? That's backwards.

I think you somehow managed to be wrong with every statement in that post. Amazing.

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The same people that denounce the evils of socialism are those using GoFundMe or their equivalent when they get into trouble. One day I'd love for them to explain to me the difference between that and socialism. I'd just be keen to know how they reconcile it in their minds.

It's part of the hyper individualism where you can decided exactly when to be social.

[postman1782]

I think you somehow managed to be wrong with every statement in that post. Amazing.

That isn't actually surprising given PC2's posting history.

[Pannonian]

The Western Hemisphere(excluding the USA) should largely be copying the USA because we're more prosperous, more innovative, and more productive. Why should we copy other countries that are on average less successful and less productive? That's backwards.

Have you ever left the US and lived abroad? (not as a tourist)

Just wondering where that experience comes from...

[Santti]

That isn't actually surprising given PC2's posting history.

Has anyone ever taken what he says seriously? Actually agreed with him? I can't remember a single instance of that happening, ever.

[Shadowferal]

Have you ever left the US and lived abroad? (not as a tourist) Just wondering where that experience comes from...

"Lived abroad?"
I see you're unfamiliar with PC2's posts.

[david0925]

i thought the only reason people even respond to pc2 is to call his bullshit so people that dont post are not misguided. otherwise it would be better to ignore.and pretend he doesnt exist

[Poopymonster]

Trump running as an independent might prove comedic.

And Yang's sect too. Make it a 4 way split.
Cherry on top, Trump gets under 5% of the votes.

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From my perspective, any time I've talked to a so-called "centrist", it inevitably turned out they were a closet conservative after all.

While I definitely understand the concern of siphoning off more "moderate" Democratic voters, I can't help feeling like anyone who agrees with Yang's talking points about the "evils of the far left" are the sort of people that either were already going to vote Republican anyway or weren't going to vote at all.

This is almost absurd comedy.
Instead of how many Republicans you can fit in a closet, how many closets can you fit a Republican in?

[Shadowferal]

This is almost absurd comedy. Instead of how many Republicans you can fit in a closet, how many closets can you fit a Republican in?

With a sharp axe...a lot of closets.

[PC2]

Have you ever left the US and lived abroad? (not as a tourist)

Just wondering where that experience comes from...

Nah i've never lived abroad because all of my family and interests are in California. My family's small businesses are in California and they've not been negatively effected by Covid or the recent recession so we don't plan on moving.

Also you're wasting your time by focusing on subjective arguments because I can only be convinced by objective arguments. Please send PMs if you'd like to talk about more personal stuff instead of talking about ideas and solutions that relate to the topic.

[Shadowferal]

"I've never been affected, so why is everyone so negative?"

[Yetanothernewbie]

Nah i've never lived abroad because all of my family and interests are in California. My family's small businesses are in California and they've not been negatively effected by Covid or the recent recession so we don't plan on moving.

Also you're wasting your time by focusing on subjective arguments because I can only be convinced by objective arguments. Please send PMs if you'd like to talk about more personal stuff instead of talking about ideas and solutions that relate to the topic.

So you know shit about shit but still talk out your ass about places you have not been to nor plan on going. Fucking clownshoes there buddy.

[PC2]

"I've never been affected, so why is everyone so negative?"

Omg, subjective things don't matter because society is going to be improving the living conditions for EVERYONE. Many people don't believe this right now and I think it's because they don't actually believe in progress yet and they're being way too cynical about life...

[Endus]

Omg, subjective things don't matter because society is going to be improving the living conditions for EVERYONE. Many people don't believe this right now and I think it's because they don't actually believe in progress yet and they're being way too cynical about life...

People don't believe it because we can look at history and see that your claims are, objectively speaking, without any support or merit whatsoever.

You're making an argument based on a completely fact-averse belief you have, and expecting everyone else to accept that subjective and baseless belief as if if were an objective truth.

And it's not.

[Shadowferal]

Omg, subjective things don't matter because society is going to be improving the living conditions for EVERYONE. Many people don't believe this right now and I think it's because they don't actually believe in progress yet and they're being way too cynical about life...

You think this simple-minded shit because you've never experienced fear and deprivation, and the desperation it breeds.
You've zero experiences with almost everything that most go through and yet have the fanciful imagination that things will be better when things have demonstrably become worse.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Omg, subjective things don't matter because society is going to be improving the living conditions for EVERYONE.

Considering how much you and others argue against things that would make everyone's lives better, this is hilarious.

We have the resources to make everyone's lives significantly better.

You continue to advocate for extreme wealth aggregation at the top.

[Milchshake]

I'm guessing this will be the preferred party for podcasters and online influencers... before they go full DeSantis by 2024.

BAsically the Joe Rogan Arc:

• Flirts with and promotes edgy "anti establishment" candidates.
• But is planning to throw it all in with the GOP.

Tom Perez's biggest fuckup was giving into Team Bernie demands for the DNC to allow candidates in by "Online CLout". It gave us Yang, Tulsi, and Williamson. Starved oxygen from better candidates with actual experience like Inslee.

Delegating your nomination process to Silicon Valley should be a big Nope!

[postman1782]

Has anyone ever taken what he says seriously? Actually agreed with him? I can't remember a single instance of that happening, ever.

Besides Trump supporters? Nope.

[Orby]

a party appealing to moderates called 'forward'

sounds like an oxymoron :P

[postman1782]

a party appealing to moderates called 'forward'

sounds like an oxymoron :P

especially when they are trying to appeal to be in between a center right party and a far right party.