[Megathread] Star Citizen

[Cloverfield]

No a scam basically does the bare min to get the customers and takes the money and runs, CiG are pushing out tons of content and what is essentially a game in its own right as it stands now, they are also expanding thier company further, a scam would not do this since they wouldnt waste money on it.

Just the current version of the alpha proves without any doubt that this is not a scam, we have clearly seen the progress evolve massively over the course of its development.

Again not true. Companies like Enron, Freddie Mac, Lehman Brothers, Theranos or the Fyre Festival did also showed their work and "content" with their markets, over many years in some cases. In many of those cases the effort was truly significant, including hundreds (or even thousands) of people in their payrolls.

They didnt take the money and "run" either, they milked the market for as long as they could, until they were caught or defaulted. In some cases we are talking around a decade, like CIG.

But that did not change the equation that in all those cases, including SC which is basically a broken tech demo, the result of that effort was trash or extremely sub par stuff. While their respective leaders got rich with your money (before they were caught or defaulted).

[kenn9530]

Again not true. Companies like Enron, Freddie Mac, Lehman Brothers, Theranos or the Fyre Festival did also showed their work and "content" with their markets, over many years in some cases. In many of those cases the effort was truly significant, including hundreds (or even thousands) of people in their payrolls.

They didnt take the money and "run" either, they milked the market for as long as they could, until they were caught or defaulted. In some cases we are talking around a decade, like CIG.

But that did not change the equation that in all those cases, including SC which is basically a broken tech demo, the result of that effort was trash or extremely sub par stuff. While their respective leaders got rich with your money (before they were caught or defaulted).

No a scam requires intent, CiG have no intent to just take as much money as they can since all the money is being spent on development and expanding the company so it can expand development even more.

Calling SC a scam just means you have nothing better to say and cant prove it is a scam in the first place. No scam would deliver what current SC alpha has available right now and the quality is very high on whats available.

[qwerty123456]

No a scam requires intent, CiG have no intent to just take as much money as they can since all the money is being spent on development and expanding the company so it can expand development even more.

Calling SC a scam just means you have nothing better to say and cant prove it is a scam in the first place. No scam would deliver what current SC alpha has available right now and the quality is very high on whats available.

Then why don't they release the single player part? What's holding it back?

[Ausr]

Then why don't they release the single player part? What's holding it back?

Because no one is doing what they're doing. It's super high quality. Their server tech is the best in the world! You don't know what you're talking about when you ask why they're holding back the single player.

It's not a scam, I'm not a troll, you're a troll, and you don't know what you're talking about.

[gondrin]

Because no one is doing what they're doing. It's super high quality. Their server tech is the best in the world! You don't know what you're talking about when you ask why they're holding back the single player.

It's not a scam, I'm not a troll, you're a troll, and you don't know what you're talking about.

Most comical part of it is the one part they advertised heavily, I believe, was getting Mark Hamill to do voice over and motion capture is already set and done. Yet, the game is not. By the time it comes out, he might have died from old age.

[banmebaby]

all the money is being spent on development and expanding the company

Press X for doubt.

[Cloverfield]

No a scam requires intent, CiG have no intent to just take as much money as they can since all the money is being spent on development and expanding the company so it can expand development even more.

Calling SC a scam just means you have nothing better to say and cant prove it is a scam in the first place. No scam would deliver what current SC alpha has available right now and the quality is very high on whats available.

Well, in all those cases I mentioned as exemples (Enron, Freddie Mac, Lehman Brothers, Theranos or the Fyre Festival) they operated for a long time, in some cases over a decade, milking their markets exactly like CIG and making their leadership rich. And much like CIG during all those years intent was never public either; of course that was the case only until their leaders got caught or their schemes defaulted. But all those companies behaved very similarly to CIG.

Those who called these out and pointed to their malpractices before their collapse were not "hating"; they were not people who "didnt have anything better to say" either, they were just doing the right thing. And in all those cases, including SC which is basically a broken tech demo, the result of those companies effort was trash or extremely sub par stuff.

[Shakzor]

Can't be having too much criticism now, can we?

It does look indeed bad, but are there any infos on what they were posting? Have seen FAR too many "i've been banned for no reason!" where the poster absolutely deserved a ban. Did they just ask "what's the status on thing x" or straight went "fk your scam, give me back my money"? Cause that's a BIG difference.

But well, that 2nd poster is definitely right, if there's gonna be an AMA, it should be on a reddit or something, where they can't just delete inconvenient questions or statements.

[MrAnderson]

Newest Inside Star Citizen vid:

Ships » Salvaging » Engineering » UI work showcase in that order.

Live servers still busy with Jumptown and Orison raids going on, it's pve or pvp slug fest and stealing drugs time:

PTU servers testing ongoing with new patch incoming tonight with more fixes that can then transition to Live.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

The diegetic hud stuff for non-functional elevators and doors is a nice touch.

[Yelmurc]

Newest Inside Star Citizen vid:

Ships » Salvaging » Engineering » UI work showcase in that order.

Live servers still busy with Jumptown and Orison raids going on, it's pve or pvp slug fest and stealing drugs time:

PTU servers testing ongoing with new patch incoming tonight with more fixes that can then transition to Live.

Argo SRV might end up being one of the most useful ships in the game. Will help with salvage, mining, refueling, and just yoinking of ships.

[kenn9530]

Well, in all those cases I mentioned as exemples (Enron, Freddie Mac, Lehman Brothers, Theranos or the Fyre Festival) they operated for a long time, in some cases over a decade, milking their markets exactly like CIG and making their leadership rich. And much like CIG during all those years intent was never public either; of course that was the case only until their leaders got caught or their schemes defaulted. But all those companies behaved very similarly to CIG.

Those who called these out and pointed to their malpractices before their collapse were not "hating"; they were not people who "didnt have anything better to say" either, they were just doing the right thing. And in all those cases, including SC which is basically a broken tech demo, the result of those companies effort was trash or extremely sub par stuff.

You keep saying the same nonsense over and over when it has no relevant to star citizen at all and doesnt back any of your points at all, claiming something is a scam with no proof proves you have no point to make.

If you think Star Citizen is currently sub par then you have no idea what you are talking about, and you dont even know what a tech demo is if you are comparing SC to one.

[Ghost of Cow]

You keep saying the same nonsense over and over when it has no relevant to star citizen at all and doesnt back any of your points at all, claiming something is a scam with no proof proves you have no point to make.

If you think Star Citizen is currently sub par then you have no idea what you are talking about, and you dont even know what a tech demo is if you are comparing SC to one.

Hitting lots of the KennScript points in a pretty short space, not bad.

...wait, KennScript. Could we make a functioning programming language out of all the usual lines? Like, "NeverBeenDoneBefore" as a variable declaration. That'd be swell.

[Amorac]

...wait, KennScript. Could we make a functioning programming language out of all the usual lines? Like, "NeverBeenDoneBefore" as a variable declaration. That'd be swell.

Well, the basis would be simple with PowerShell, one option would be (not very subtle)

$Input = "You don't know what you are talking about", "ït's the best space game ever", "nobody does what Roberts is doing", "the game is released", "the game is not released"| Get-Random

Would be better to read a file in as that is easier to add lines, but that's not hard to make.

Basically you could make it to print a few random lines and 'cheat' with random to not use the same line twice.

Getting it to type in a browser reply window would be a challenge, not something I ever tried and not sure PowerShell can do that.

/edit
Well, this sorta works... You need to be sure the edit box is active before you run it..

"You don't know what you are talking about", "It's the best space game ever", "Nobody does what Roberts is doing", "The game is released", "The game is not released"| Get-Random -Count 2 | Clip

$wshell = New-Object -ComObject wscript.shell;
$wshell.AppActivate('chrome')
Sleep 2
[void][reflection.assembly]::loadwithpartialname("system.windows.forms")
[system.windows.forms.sendkeys]::sendwait('^v')

/edit 2
Just for clarity, you could replace the first line with say

Get-Content "c:\temp\lines.txt" | Get-Random -Count 2 | Clip

With c:\temp\lines.txt having all quotes you want, 1 per line.

/Last edit I promise
This checks for a temp directory in the user documents folder, and/or lines.txt in that temp dir. If not create them
Yea it's very basic I know. Well, it kinda gets the job done.

$FolderName = "$env:userprofile\Documents\temp\"
$Filename = "$env:userprofile\Documents\temp\lines.txt"


#Create temp dir in user folder if not exist


if (Test-Path $FolderName) { 
   write-host 0
   # Path exists, do nothing :P
}
else
{
  [void](New-Item $FolderName -ItemType Directory)
}


#Create quote file in user temp folder if not exist


if (Test-Path $Filename) {
   # File exists, do nothing :P
}
else
{
  [void](New-Item $Filename -ItemType File)
  Add-Content -path $Filename -Value "You don't know what you are talking about"
  Add-Content -path $Filename -Value "It's the best space game ever"
  Add-Content -path $Filename -Value "No one has ever done what SC is doing."
  Add-Content -path $Filename -Value "The game is released"
  Add-Content -path $Filename -Value "The game is not released"
  Add-Content -path $Filename -Value "You're just clueless about development"
  Add-Content -path $Filename -Value "You have poor character."
  Add-Content -path $Filename -Value "You're just lying."
  Add-Content -path $Filename -Value "Dates change all the time."
}


Get-Content "$env:userprofile\temp\lines.txt" | Get-Random -Count 3 | Clip


$wshell = New-Object -ComObject wscript.shell;
$wshell.AppActivate('Chrome') 
Sleep 2 #Not really needed
[void][reflection.assembly]::loadwithpartialname("system.windows.forms")
[system.windows.forms.sendkeys]::sendwait('^v')

[hynx]

this game wont be half bad when they figure out server meshing, and then multi server meshing, just with how their servers have a low player cap limit. once they figure out a half way decent way to get meshing to work beyond 1+1, it could finally be considered an mmo, that used to only be heavy on pve, but can now have true territory control combat

[banmebaby]

when they figure out server meshing

If, they figure out server meshing.

Also, something that people seem to ignore, for server meshing to work in the way they want it to work, it's not just about CiG, CiG won't be able to solve players hardware and internet connections limitations with server side magic, good luck rendering "thousands" of players and spaceships at the level detail they are aiming for with the current hardware available.

[kenn9530]

Hitting lots of the KennScript points in a pretty short space, not bad.

...wait, KennScript. Could we make a functioning programming language out of all the usual lines? Like, "NeverBeenDoneBefore" as a variable declaration. That'd be swell.

What very boring posts with clear lack of any intellect in them, at least attempt to be constuctive in your posts and not an obvious insult because you are unable to provide even a hint of an argument back.

[Calfredd]

What very boring posts with clear lack of any intellect in them, at least attempt to be constuctive in your posts and not an obvious insult because you are unable to provide even a hint of an argument back.

Please stop being a hypocrite.

[Orange Joe]

What very boring posts with clear lack of any intellect in them, at least attempt to be constuctive in your posts and not an obvious insult because you are unable to provide even a hint of an argument back.

@Edge-

At what point is enough, enough.... How is this not openly trolling? literally insults people saying they don't know anything then posts stuff like this right after.

[Kyanion]

@Edge-

At what point is enough, enough.... How is this not openly trolling? literally insults people saying they don't know anything then posts stuff like this right after.

Considering kenn said this:

I come to waste the time of posters who cant do anything other than hate other projects, just like your only reason is to show your clear lack of knowledge about everything.

with no infraction I don't know what to tell you.