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  1. #61
    Kinda has the SW sequel trilogy effect on me where I can barely care what happens in the past because we know it all leads to something so stupid.

    Which is sad but i'll probably get over it if the first season ends up good

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    What I didn't get is how did the soldiers know what crimes those guys were guilty of? Feels like they collected a bunch of random bums and started yelling made-up accusations at them. "Hm...you look like a thief...THIEF!"

    Pretty sure they didn't have a file with pictures and evidence on any of them.

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    Even though I know the general story this show is about, I enjoyed the first episode. I think it did a great job of laying down the foundations of things to come.

    I really enjoyed the character of Daemon Targaryen. I think Matt Smith did a tremendous job of portraying his sinister extremist nature, the rebellious swagger and the love he has for his family. I mean, the conversation in the throne room with Viserys was fantastic. He didn't call him 'weak' out of spiteful contempt... To me it felt like he hates to see other people using his brother's kindness for their own ends.

  4. #64
    Also didn't he look glorious in his jousting armor

  5. #65
    It's watchable so far but I feel like the acting itself has some flaws that stick out. Especially the king. It's just a very average performance
    "In real life, unlike in Shakespeare, the sweetness of the rose depends upon the name it bears. Things are not only what they are. They are, in very important respects, what they seem to be"

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  6. #66
    i thought it was decent.

    probably rose tinted glasses but it didnt feel as grand as GoT

    better than WoT series by far, thats how you make a fantasy show

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    I just shudder at the thought the main conflict will be between the interesting and complex Daemon and the boring and bland Rhaenyra.

    Daenerys was boring af too, but at least she was surrounded by interesting characters. If Rhaenyra is supposed to be her equivalent, she'd better get some interesting characters in her team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynical Asshole View Post
    I just shudder at the thought the main conflict will be between the interesting and complex Daemon and the boring and bland Rhaenyra.

    Daenerys was boring af too, but at least she was surrounded by interesting characters. If Rhaenyra is supposed to be her equivalent, she'd better get some interesting characters in her team.
    The big conflict will be about Rhaenyra vs Alicent, Daemon will switch to team Rhaenyra later on as he marries her. It's greens vs blacks afterall.

    Also Rhaenyra is awesome (and Dany was too). You know who was bland, boring and dumb? Bran, who should have died behind the wall instead of stealing that throne ... but I guess it's true what they say. A queen isn't allowed to inherit that thing
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  9. #69
    Good first episode, even if GoT's was better. Rhaenyra's carriage at the start looked really weird though. Like uncanny valley weird (if it's possible to experience it in regards to carriages). It actually reminded me of some prop sets from the prequel trilogy of Star Wars. Also, it was a bit weird no one stopped the brawl at the tournament, even though it wasn't the melee part of it and instead was something started by a salty loser of the jousting competition.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Mabye the exact ending with bran on the throne was suppose to happen but it’s obvious they didn’t take the same route to get there as the books would have with lady stoneheart cut, the false Sansa cut, the wildling lead going north for John under cover cut, stannis’s daughter changed, and so on.

    There’s no way the book and the show would play out the same with such huge changes.
    Yeah, but that's precisely showing how Dipshit and Dumbfuck got lazy (or just inept) about it. They were provided with the ending in broad strokes as the books weren't ready. Things like who sits on the Iron Throne, the Long Night or Daenerys turning into a mad tyrant like her father. And then the two morons tried to arrive at those plot points without taking into the account the changes they made on the way and how said changes would have made the possibility of the story arrive at the same end point regardless implausible and illogical.

    So, to use just one example, there's no Dany obsessing and growing more paranoid with each book over Quaithe's prophecy of the three treasons awaiting her to properly justify her descent into madness. Instead we have her being salty because her nephew doesn't want to sleep with her and salty about the outcome of a trap she walked into because "she kinda forgot about the Iron Fleet (that she discussed earlier that very same episode)".

    The fact that they then rushed the hell out of it even when accounting for them making significant cuts to the story (against the wishes of both HBO and GRRM) because they grew bored of GoT and wanted to jump ship to pursue their other projects like their personal show about the Confederacy or Disney's next planned Star Wars trilogy (that didn't pan out anyway) didn't help things either.
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  10. #70
    It's interesting how, in Aegon's prophetic dream, all of Westeros stood united against the Night King, with a Targaryen seated on the Iron Throne.

    Yet, in Season 8, which takes place during the New """""""""Long""""""""" Night, only the Vale and the North cared about the threat from Beyond the Wall, and a Lannister was seated on the Iron Throne. Cersei Lannister and her subjects (all the southern kingdoms) also refused to help fight the Night King. Hilariously, the bulk of the forces at Winterfell was comprised of Dothraki and Unsullied, who come from Essos.

    It would seem that Aegon's prophetic dream turned out to be bullshit, since none of those things happened. Unless this show and the Jon Snow sequel subtly and slowly retconned The Long Night from S8. I hope it's the latter actually.

    I see many people online take this scene as evidence that they are trying to pull a "Somehow the Night King has returned" move and maybe reveal that the "Long Night" Aegon saw in a dream was not actually the 30 minutes evening we saw in Season 8. I am hyped for the Jon Snow sequel honestly.
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  11. #71
    First episode was solid. Actually feels like Old GoT to me before they butchered it...
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  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Low Hanging Fruit View Post
    Well its not a shocker. I suspect it will be good television. This one will benefit a lot from not having to subvert expectations all the time because it has to end up where its suppose to. Which I think is a good thing. Makes it harder to do the off the rails looney business they got into towards the end of the last show. Not impossible. But harder.
    s8 also very likely ended up where its suppose to,it was getting there that was the part that made no sense or had zero writing cohesion

  13. #73
    No video game, spinoff, prequel/sequel, comic or whatever can bring me back to this universe after this horribly dogshit last season of GoT...
    Only original book continuation from 'fat grandpa' (which has to be same quality as before) has a chance.
    Not intending to watch this one either.

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Sinured View Post
    Blame G R R Melvin for it.
    stalling the release of his last book to earn more cash.
    dude made an inferior LOTR with porn in it and somehow its hyped up.
    boomers surely love their rape scenes.
    lotr is so overated my gosh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendzia View Post
    No video game, spinoff, prequel/sequel, comic or whatever can bring me back to this universe after this horribly dogshit last season of GoT...
    Only original book continuation from 'fat grandpa' (which has to be same quality as before) has a chance.
    Not intending to watch this one either.
    this a bit of a dumb take,the last 3 seasons of got had zero imput from george,the ending plot points are likely what he told them the endings will be

    this show is a complete story by gramps,and hes involved in the process

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by deenman View Post
    this a bit of a dumb take,the last 3 seasons of got had zero imput from george,the ending plot points are likely what he told them the endings will be
    I know... thats why i said it can be only saved by him.
    Won't touch anything related to the IP until he releases atleast the Winds of Winter... and it will be good read.
    I highly doubt he will or even care about finishing it.

    Quote Originally Posted by deenman View Post
    this show is a complete story by gramps,and hes involved in the process
    He was involved at last seasons of GoT too but it was just not 'his story'.

  16. #76
    I watched the first episode with my friend on his birthday yesterday.

    At the end, there was roar of excitement. Game of Thrones is Back. He loved it. If his reaction is anything to go by, this will restore things somewhat.

    He was also disappointed with how the main series ended

  17. #77
    I really liked it. It was like early GoT with less characters. More focus on the main players. But more to come.

    Everyone i talked to in real life also was very positiv.

    Only complaints i have seen anywhere have been the normal culprits who complain about women in lead roles and black people daring to be in tv shows.

  18. #78
    There are still 9 episodes to come, but first one did a good job as an introduction to the story.
    Just enough exposition to get your head around who's who, and what is it about. Dragons didn't really feel "in your face" (but again, it's just the first episode).

    After the episode you can have a clear vision of the ambitions, strengths and weaknesses of the main characters.
    I liked a few subtle scenes, like Viserys cutting his finger on the sharp edge of the Iron Throne, which in my opinion served as a symbolism for him being unfit to rule, as he doesn't "understand the throne" after almost a decade of ruling; or Viserys grabbing the same dagger, that will end the Long Night he talks about in that very same moment.

    Of the things I'm actually disappointed - music from Djawadi this episode was the biggest no-no. I hoped that GoT music won't be re-used, or at least just intertwined into brand new, original tracks. I really hope it will change, as it's a bit lame to ride on the nostalgia from Daenerys/dragons theme. Especially that every season, Djawadi proved to be top-notch composer.
    Also, the gruesomeness seemed a little bit unneccesary, just to prove that: "hey, we are still in Westeros and where other series are afraid to show violence, we will double down on that".

    But all in all, as for the first episode, it did a good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendzia View Post
    He was involved at last seasons of GoT too but it was just not 'his story'.
    I believe he said it himself not that long ago, that he wasn't involved in development of a last few seasons. Also, I believe he disliked the ideas and direction and insisted to make a couple more seasons to deliver the story properly.
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  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    It's watchable so far but I feel like the acting itself has some flaws that stick out. Especially the king. It's just a very average performance
    Paddy Considine is actually brilliant (see: Dead Man's Shoes) but I agree he's not a perfect fit for this role.

  20. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    Did you also feel this way when the guy had his balls sliced off and shown to us… or is a medieval c-section where the line is drawn for being "too shocking".
    I thought they did this a few times. A couple of other times it was bad writing just so they could include more gore. At least the c-section was probably realistic.

    The town square maiming felt very odd. Like they remember Gary the Baker was stealing from before and Bob the Blacksmith was going around raping, but they weren't punishing anyone previously? That just didn't make sense to me. Why weren't they enforcing the law previously?

    Then the tourney mayhem also didn't fit. Folks use tourney/blunted swords and tourney lances at a tournament. I'm not saying accidents can't happen, but if folks just starting stabbing and slicing and bashing skulls at the tourney whenever someone got mad, it would lead to chaos in the realm. Many of the folks competing in the tourney are lords & sons of lords, and if folks just started killing each other at the tourney, that would lead to war. Then the played it off like, "yep, that's what happens at tourney", just felt like an excuse to deliver over-the-top gore.

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