If prophecies are always right, it's also bad writing. They kinda spoil everything.
If prophecies are always right, it's also bad writing. They kinda spoil everything.
Nah, there's tons of videos with titles like "explained". Even for trailers or news articles about upcoming movies/shows. Usually combined with a clickbait thumbnail. The channel Emergency Awesome is pretty guilty of this. And yet every time I look at the comments in one of his vids nobody is aware of this.
In GoT franschise it is explained that even though prophetic dreams are always right, they are always highly misinterpreted due the biased view of a person having the dream. In the end there is very little reason trusting them.
For example in this show: Viserys is telling his wife about having a dream about their child being born with an iron crown and that he seated him Iron Throne. In a way he was right. Their daughter Rhaenyra will have a son who will become the king after incredible bloodshed caused by the civil war. Long story short, everybody dies and then the council decides to put him on the throne as 10 year old.
Or Aegon's dream... Yes, the kingdoms will be united once but not at the Winter's arrival and it wasn't him who lead the armies against them.
Not at all.
If someone watches the Prequels before the OG trilogy, they know that the Chosen One Anakin is destined to destroy the Sith somehow, but they don't know how that will happen. The presence of a prophecy doesn't spoil anything.
It's not a spoiler if you know the end point, even GRRM made it clear that certain characters, like Bran, Sansa, and Arya, were going to survive his story. Did anyone care that GRRM spoiled that certain characters were going to survive? No, because people didn't know how. It's a spoiler only if you are already told how the character will get to said end point.
Following your logic, every story is badly written because you already know that the bad guy will be defeated and the good guys will win.
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They are subverted because of bad writing, not because Aegon was biased. The bad writing that made Daenerys afk in Dragonstone for all of Season 7, instead of just nuking the Red Keep right away.
Went in with a lot of salty left-over bagage from season 8 but I gotta say the first episode wasn't too bad.
Liked the king cutting himself on the throne, always wondered :P
Last edited by Sanguinerd; 2022-08-27 at 08:34 PM.
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Not if there are multiple prophecies and one or two can be right. Predicting the future but only a handful of outcomes can happen. Or the characters just mistranslate the prophecies and the one they think it right and the reader/watcher has thought was true is not really in the end.
The prophecy doesn't have to be true or false. It just has to serve a purpose. Dune use it best as they use prophecy to showcase how messiah and chosen ones are not always what they live up to being. And chasing messiah types can cause more problems than it solves. And how things can be Interpretated even when not true. Like jessica using her powers and giving answers to info she should not know
Except that absolutely NOTHING in Aegon's prophecy came to pass. His prophecy was that a united Westeros with a Targaryen on the Iron Throne would fight against the Night King. In Season 8:
- Only 2 kingdoms, the North and the Vale, fought in the Great War. There were literally more Essosi than Westerosi at Winterfell;
- Cersei Lannister was on the Iron Throne.
This is not a case of mistranslation or getting only half the picture right, literally the entire prophecy was wrong.
Also, I don't know why you're bringing up this "multiple prophecies" thing, what are these "multiple prophecies" you speak of? There was this prophecy Aegon had, and then there was an unrelated prophecy about the Prince That Was Promised, and that's it. Aegon didn't dream about the Prince, he only dreamed about Westeros being united against the darkness.
Last edited by Varodoc; 2022-08-27 at 09:14 PM.
No. The point of a prophecy is that they are vague, but still give us something to hold on to.
Trying to find out who Azor Ahai was in GoT was exciting. When it turned out that it literally does not matter, people got rightfully pissed. It could've been Jon Snow, Jaime Lannister or even Daenerys.
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How my works of fiction feature prophecies that play out to the tee? Would be boring.
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Episode 2 already leaked online. Did this happen with the original GoT? I don't remember it happening. Is it against the rules to discuss leaked material, with spoiler tags of course?
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That did happen with GoT, quite a lot even. As OP I'm okay with talking about it, as long as people use spoiler tags, ofcourse.
I know plot details did, but did the actual downloadable episodes get leaked? I used to post on r/freefolk but not until the later seasons.
Didn't it happen with the siege of winterfell episode or something? But it was hackers and there were news about it even before the files got uploaded. I don't know, I might be confusing with something else
"In real life, unlike in Shakespeare, the sweetness of the rose depends upon the name it bears. Things are not only what they are. They are, in very important respects, what they seem to be"
End of quote. Repeat the line.
Still not a single interesting character to root for...
No tyrion, varys, john snow, daenerys, arya...
While misscast "I'm of pure Valyrian blood!"
Lord Velaryon is the only character to sympathize with so far.
Daemeon is right, the king is a fool played by otto..
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What for? This is from a book that has been out for years, if people don't want to be "spoiled" then they shouldn't read a thread the day an episode comes out..
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The king asked everyone about Velaryon's proposal, everyone agreed it was logical n best way forward for the realm, even Otto reluctantly did...
I'd say Otto is the sneaky schemer #1
Rhaenerya hasn't done much, well except the egg situation, but she isn't single minded like Daenerys...
Daemeon can be interesting n grow on people down the line, so far he has sulked n killed some criminals, I want him to burn some crab people or something..
Otto...way less charismstic than Tywin or Littlefinger..this show's characters are boring tbh..