Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Raetary]

no reason you couldn't be a voidelf dh.

How about that Void Elves are half void abberations that are forced to constantly walk on the edges of their sanity?

That doesn't seem to pair well with, you know, undergoing torterous training that constantly strains your will, where you end up sacrificing parts of yourself in order to consume so much fel energy you turn into a demon yourself.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Mag'har Warlocks would be Affli only in lore, just like Lightforged Priests currently are holy only lore-wise. You can be a worgen priest, so there is literally no reason you couldn't wear plate armour and become a Paladin. HFC had a void revenant infused with fel and you can be a void elf warlock already, no reason you couldn't be a voidelf dh.

There are literally 0 race/class combos where you can't just write new lore for them, honestly.

Unless warlock lore changed some where post legion and I missed it affliction still uses Fel so should still corrupt.

Affliction warlocks are masters of shadow-touched powers, but unlike shadow priests—deadliest when pushed to the brink of insanity—these warlocks delight in using fel forces to cause intense pain and suffering in others.

And Worgen can be priest but a priest and a paladin aren’t as simple as just putting on plate. a paladin infuses then self fully with light and the established lore is that the Worgen curse makes them to unstable to do so just like how undead don’t do it because it feels like being constantly on fire instead of just the moment of pain priest experience when calling on the light.

And ya there is a Void Fel thing in HFC But it has like no lore and as of legion Fel and Void don’t mix I think flat out exploding if you mix them in one quest.

As to void elf’s they can use Fel as warlocks but aren’t infused with it like demon hunters are just like a priest can use void and light and not explode but Alleria and his husband can’t touch because they both fully embody those powers.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Fact is rvery race Can be every class and there is no reason to think otherwise. What class restrictions represented is what was COMMON. A gnome paladin is possible, but with their culture its unlikely.

And indeep players tend to enforce these things. Most ppl pick lf draenei to be paladins or priests, most ppl pick nightborne to be mages. A few ppl being tauren rogues doesnt stop that. Its just confirmation bias. Zero gnome druids before so any new ones are more obvious. But the majority of certain races are stilll their prefered classes

Some combos really shouldn't be a thing. Void Elf Paladins for one thing. Mag'har Warlocks cause corruption same with Draenei and it would be super jarring to see them turn to dark magic and Fel even if the Legion is defeated. Oh and Undead Paladins.

Identit and culture dont mean anything. Anime and japanese and japanese history are something from japan but otakus are a plague on this world. Most people dont play chess but enough do to still have chess tournaments. If only .0001% of a demographic exists then there are many

Oh it does matter though and Japan culture=/ Warcraft race culture.

[Foolicious]

Non-Void form? That is our major CD.

They could make a choice node with void form and dark evangelism. Both are major cooldowns and i don't think we will want to have both.

[Varodoc]

Alleria Windrunner is the first mortal to successfully defy the shadows' whispers.

You see? The Void elves as a race literally defy expectations, they are built around the idea of defying expectations.

It is expected that a Void creature cannot wield the Light. Void elves will exceed that expectation as well.

That, and the fact that, objectively and factually, Void elf Paladins would look cool, so that's a good enough reason to have them playable.

Why is this even being debated around here anyway? Blizzard has already confirmed they'll give every class to every race. On the official forums and Reddit, no one is debating this, because it's already accepted and acknowledged that all races will get all classes. Why is this therad talking about this like it wasn't already confirmed? t?

[Civciv]

Not thisss again

[Alanar]

That's fine, you don't have to play one, no one is forcing you too, leave the Dracthyr alone, they're fine.

What are you taIking about? please dude, dont act like you speak for everyone and let people have their opinion, thank you. Its rather annoying.

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Not thisss again

Just ignore the guy... like everyone else.

[Makabreska]

Just ignore the guy... like everyone else.

ROFL, I like that quick ban. He quickly approaches scarecrowz lvl of ban reaction.

[Khaza-R]

Fact is rvery race Can be every class and there is no reason to think otherwise. What class restrictions represented is what was COMMON. A gnome paladin is possible, but with their culture its unlikely.

And indeep players tend to enforce these things. Most ppl pick lf draenei to be paladins or priests, most ppl pick nightborne to be mages. A few ppl being tauren rogues doesnt stop that. Its just confirmation bias. Zero gnome druids before so any new ones are more obvious. But the majority of certain races are stilll their prefered classes

Yeah I think that was pretty always established even back in vanilla. With some instances of certain combos only being possible by rare exceptions. But its also important to remember that in vanilla your origin was very specific to certain narrative. So restrictions made more sense from a cultural point of view.

That and some races hadn't even come in contact with one another yet. A gnome for instance, would of likely never even met a druid prior to vanilla unless they fought along Jaina at Hyjal.

[Alanar]

ROFL, I like that quick ban. He quickly approaches scarecrowz lvl of ban reaction.

That was insanely fast

[Xilurm]

I don't member having lot's of lore dropped on us in Cata, with last class/race combo addition. Biggest were Taurens palas, with their sun worship. Gnome priests were just some healers, dwarf sham were Wildhammer, dwarf mages/locks were simply Dark Iron. Troll druids were Loa followers, everybody could be a hunter etc. For example - Draenein locks, probably the most egregious combo, could be Eredars returning back after Legion fall. We immediately accepted DK's, why not them?

And some of them are good, especially with the Tauren Paladins, it created an entire new subset of lore that actually fit. Night Elf Paladins would have to worship Elune. No other way about it. They'd have to work real hard to make sure every class/combo makes sense, especially since they want to allow every race to be every class.

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Identit and culture dont mean anything. Anime and japanese and japanese history are something from japan but otakus are a plague on this world. Most people dont play chess but enough do to still have chess tournaments. If only .0001% of a demographic exists then there are many

Real life cultures blending and stuff can be good and all, but the reason I'm playing a video game is to escape reality and live out a fantasy.

[Alanar]

They could make a choice node with void form and dark evangelism. Both are major cooldowns and i don't think we will want to have both.

It sounds cool to have my purple angel wings back tho

[Makorus]

Look, I get the argument of "your average Gnome shouldn't know how to be a druid", but lore-wise, our character is hardly average at this point.

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What are you taIking about? please dude, dont act like you speak for everyone and let people have their opinion, thank you. Its rather annoying.

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Just ignore the guy... like everyone else.

Ditto?

I was giving a completely reasonable explanation on why Dracthyr are the way they are, and you are just like "No, they are not the way they are supposed to be!" (aka the way you want them).

If I see a dragon, I don't think "wow, it's a big hulking beast". And I feel like most fantasy writers agree because the majority of humanoid dragons are the way Dracthyr are.

[Skildar]

Look, I get the argument of "your average Gnome shouldn't know how to be a druid", but lore-wise, our character is hardly average at this point.

Actually our character should be amongst the average ones and the npc be the exceptions. That enforces the identity of each races and each classes.

[Kiria]

What are you taIking about? please dude, dont act like you speak for everyone and let people have their opinion, thank you. Its rather annoying.

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Just ignore the guy... like everyone else.

Fair, but bear in mind, you don't speak for everyone either so stop complaining about something you have absolutely no control over, either get over it and move on or stay being bitter and sad because that's how you come across little man.

[Lady Atia]

Actually our character should be amongst the average ones and the npc be the exceptions. That enforces the identity of each races and each classes.

Nope, it should be the other way round. We are supposed to be the heroes of this story, the special ones, not some npc's. Stop trying to be a lore police, there is nothing to enforce regarding races and classes, you can still have racial identity without these silly restrictions lol.

[Lolites]

I mean they both suffer from the same problem of shit content schedule.

definitely, but even though both had 2 major patches, SL didnt have one with selfie camera as its main (and pretty much only) content, and just some QOL changes

[Skildar]

Nope, it should be the other way round. We are supposed to be the heroes of this story, the special ones, not some npc's. Stop trying to be a lore police, there is nothing to enforce regarding races and classes, you can still have racial identity without these silly restrictions lol.

It has nothing to do with being lore police... Just that having your character stand out doesn't mean to have him be outside of the rules and defining traits of the group you are suppose to be part of.

[Lady Atia]

It has nothing to do with being lore police... Just that having your character stand out doesn't mean to have him be outside of the rules and defining traits of the group you are suppose to be part of.

But there are no such rules that go against a class - an Orc is an Orc not because he is a Warrior, but because he is an Orc. Same goes for every race out there. And the "rare class/race combos" always have the best lore anyways, see Tauren Sunwalkers or Worgen/Troll Druids.

[Alanar]

Fair, but bear in mind, you don't speak for everyone either so stop complaining about something you have absolutely no control over, either get over it and move on or stay being bitter and sad because that's how you come across little man.

You could have just read past my comment and not respond tbh. We were actually talking about the dragonids and not these geckos. Look I get it.. you like them and you are acting a little devensive, but I never said anything were I made it seem like I speak for everyone, thats more your thing so far.

So please. just move along and let people have their opinions, I cant help, but you come across like a little whiney girl pointing fingers.