Space Travel & Exploration

[Doctor Amadeus]

The human species has always been explorers, space is the next frontier. We'll always try to push farther out. Exploring, expanding, and colonizing will have fantastic benefits for the human race. Just because you don't see or understand them, doesn't mean they don't exist.

If you read through your "points" above, you can see they are mostly just shitting on the human race, rather than valid reasons to stop space exploration. The most important reason to explore and expand is to someday not be limited to one planet for our survival. Will we be able to live independently on another planet in the next 100 years? Almost certainly not. But 100 years after that? Probably. And 100 years after that? Almost certainly.

If we follow your advice, we'd never get started, so we'd never get there.

But literally non of that about advancing anything is true. Even if you thought that which you do. At the expense and cost of what?

Destroying and not appreciating what we have. We can’t and haven’t explored here first where we know there is life, us.

My points are valid and realistic even though you don’t like them.

None of your counters to anything I’ve said addressed reality.

We can’t keep and maintain this planet as for expansion yeah that again the benefits has not outweighed the cost.

[cubby]

I grouped your arguments into their repetitive groups.

But literally non of that about advancing anything is true.

Of course it is, you just don't want it to be, because then your whole "the human race is shit" argument falls to the wayside. We have objective achievements and milestone inventions that came directly or indirectly from exploring space.

Even if you thought that which you do. At the expense and cost of what?
We can’t keep and maintain this planet as for expansion yeah that again the benefits has not outweighed the cost.
Destroying and not appreciating what we have. We can’t and haven’t explored here first where we know there is life, us.

You are making a logical fallacy here. 1. Space exploration and maintaining/saving the planet are not mutually exclusive - we can both, well. We have just decided not to, on both accounts so far. 2. Space exploration isn't destroying anything nor causing anything to be destroyed. 3. Space exploration and colonization typically gives us benefits, with few downsides.

My points are valid and realistic even though you don’t like them.
None of your counters to anything I’ve said addressed reality.

Unfortunately, no. You're just objectively and logically wrong. Until you realize that, it will be hard for anyone to have a conversation with you about this topic.

[Deus Mortis]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nasa-succ...233440507.html

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Jordan Mendoza, USA TODAY
Mon, September 26, 2022 at 6:01 PM·3 min read
Mission complete.

NASA successfully crashed a spacecraft into an asteroid Monday, marking a win for the agency's plan for when a devastating asteroid should ever threaten humanity.

The 1,260-pound Double Asteroid Redirection Test spacecraft, or DART, collided with the estimated 11 billion pound, 520-foot long asteroid Dimorphos at 14,000 miles per hour close to 7 million miles from Earth. The spacecraft hit about 55 feet from the asteroid's center.

The spacecraft had launched its camera and a shoebox-size companion, LICIACube, over a week ago to photograph the mission, which confirmed the impact.

"This was a really hard technology demonstration to hit a small asteroid we've never seen before, and do it in such spectacular fashion," Nancy Chabot, planetary scientist and mission team leader at Johns Hopkins University, said after the impact.

The completed mission culminates a 10-month-long journey for DART, which cost $325 million. The asteroid orbits a larger one named Didymos, and the two were chosen because they don't pose any threat to Earth.

"There was a lot of innovation and creativity that went into this mission, and I believe it's going to teach us how one day to protect our own planet from an incoming asteroid," said NASA Administrator Bill Nelson. "We are showing that planetary defense is a global endeavor, and it is very possible to save our planet."

Awesome stuff that we are able to hit something that small from so far away as well as the speeds involved.

[PACOX]

Precautions had to be taken just in case because the crawler transport is slow, but of course the weather for the Sept 27 window has been fine for launch. No thunder. No rain. Barely any winds. Its cloudy but thats about it.

[cubby]

Precautions had to be taken just in case because the crawler transport is slow, but of course the weather for the Sept 27 window has been fine for launch. No thunder. No rain. Barely any winds. Its cloudy but thats about it.

That's just unfortunate, but of course understandable. I thought I saw the window was open through Oct 3, but of course with the hurricane, I guess we wait till the next window.

[Osmeric]

Ian is down to a tropical storm with 65 mph winds but is now going right over Cape Canaveral.

[Nerraw]

NASA is holding a press conference in 1h20m with NASA representatives, one of the SpaceX high-ups, the guy who funded and flew on Inspiration4 and is funding and flying on the Polaris missions.... and the Hubble project director.

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https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard...st-possibility

[cubby]

Precautions had to be taken just in case because the crawler transport is slow, but of course the weather for the Sept 27 window has been fine for launch. No thunder. No rain. Barely any winds. Its cloudy but thats about it.

So we're looking at mid-October now for the launch, at best.

[Nerraw]

So we're looking at mid-October now for the launch, at best.

They're officially aiming for the mid-late November window.

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Launch at the top of the hour.

[cubby]

They're officially aiming for the mid-late November window.

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Launch at the top of the hour.

Successful docking with ISS. Thank goodness for SpaceX, otherwise, can you imagine being reliant on Russia right now for NEO access?

(I sincerely hope SpaceX can break away, somehow, from it's rapidly-going-insane founder)

[Nerraw]

(I sincerely hope SpaceX can break away, somehow, from it's rapidly-going-insane founder)

He won't compromise the success of SpaceX. Gwynne Shotwell won't let him, and the DOD won't let him. Between Starlink and Starship, SpaceX is instrumental in ensuring American military supremacy for at least the next decade, if not more. They're not gonna let anything happen to that.

[Viconia]

He won't compromise the success of SpaceX. Gwynne Shotwell won't let him, and the DOD won't let him. Between Starlink and Starship, SpaceX is instrumental in ensuring American military supremacy for at least the next decade, if not more. They're not gonna let anything happen to that.

It's a damn shame though. I remember when I became aware of Elon Musk and his ventures some seven years ago. The future seemed so amazing. It still feels promising, but this central figure that drove it has become a hindrance. SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink, they all feel faceless at the moment. And power abhors a vacuum. If Musk doesn't get his shit together we might just get another capitalist asshole taking the reigns, just with better social media conduct. Can't speak for anyone else here, but I'd like there to be a person with a vision behind it all. It felt right seven years ago and I feel it's still possible.

Musk is the wealthiest man in the world and has an incredible amount of followers. Is this status too much for an individual? Guess it all goes back to Plato's enlightened dictator dream. We want a savior, yet it's unlikely we're ever going to get one.

I'm still not buying the ideal version of socialism, there's just too much baggage against it. What is the least bad spearhead for progression of humankind we are able to get? This flawed rich man with occasional shit takes? I mean, if in the next year Russia falls and Musk says "my bad" and resumes pushing technological capability and affordability? I'd rather have him do that than cancel him.

[Nerraw]

This launch had some of the best views I've ever seen.

[Pann]

This launch had some of the best views I've ever seen.

The shots from the barge are absolutely stunning!

[Osmeric]

The shots from the barge are absolutely stunning!

Yes they were.

[cubby]

This launch had some of the best views I've ever seen.

They look absolutely amazing.

[Osmeric]

Shot of the rocket passing in front of the moon (from spaceflightnow.com):

[Nerraw]

Full-stack Starship ready to be launched Soon(TM): https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1580065366377525249

[cubby]

November 14 next launch window set for SLS.

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Full-stack Starship ready to be launched Soon(TM): https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1580065366377525249

Will be exciting to see that go up. They certainly have an easier launch window than SLS.

[PACOX]

A Starship orbital test by the end of the year would be dope. I don't know how likely that is but they have more milestones behind them than in front now. Don't think they are done testing it's first stage.