Official UFO Thread officially called now UAP

[SovietBabeyyy]

When someone is interested in this Topic.

In the US there is now a Official UFO Authority that’s only goal is to investigate UFOs.

It’s called

All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office

Twitter:

https://mobile.twitter.com/DoD_AARO/with_replies

Buried deep in a report that’s an addendum to the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2023, a budget that governs America’s clandestine services you can find this.

https://www.congress.gov/117/crpt/sr...32.pdf#page=12

Temporary nonattributed objects, or those that are positively identified as man-made after analysis, will be passed to appropriate offices and should not be considered under the definition as unidentified aero- space-undersea phenomena.

It’s not about Drones,planes or anything man-made. It will be passed to the appropriate office.

It’s about Real UFOs that can’t be explained.


Nasa begins Investigation

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-an...-team-members/

NASA has selected 16 individuals to participate in its independent study team on unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP). Observations of events in the sky that cannot be identified as aircraft or as known natural phenomena are categorized as UAPs.

NASA has brought together some of the world's leading scientists, data and artificial intelligence practitioners, aerospace safety experts, all with a specific charge, which is to tell us how to apply the full focus of science and data to UAP,” said Evans. “The findings will be released to the public in conjunction with NASA’s principles of transparency, openness, and scientific integrity.

The independent study will begin on Monday, Oct. 24. Over the course of nine months, the independent study team will lay the groundwork for future study on the nature of UAPs for NASA


Harvard University - The Galileo Project

https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/galileo/home

The goal of the Galileo Project is to bring the search for extraterrestrial technological signatures of Extraterrestrial Technological Civilizations (ETCs) from accidental or anecdotal observations and legends to the mainstream of transparent, validated and systematic scientific research. This project is complementary to traditional SETI, in that it searches for physical objects, and not electromagnetic signals, associated with extraterrestrial technological equipment.

No results will be released except through scientifically-accepted channels of publication

After over 70+ Years of reports, stigma, jokes finally people realized that we would have figured it out by now if it where birds,bugs,insects,planes.


Interview from Witnesses - Fighter Jet Pilots



Obama on UFOs


Interview Fighter Jet Pilot

Former US F/A-18F pilot and member of the famed strike fighter squadron, The Red Rippers, Lt. Ryan Graves is a noted military tactician, artificial intelligence, quantum mechanics and autonomous drone specialist.

A decade ago, when Graves says he first began encountering these objects, they initially appeared as singles and doubles. They would turn up while flying his missions and exercises, mainly out of Virginia, off the US Atlantic Coast - where the bulk ofits Eastern Navy fleet is based.


According to Graves, the objects he saw were always cubes in transparent spheres - about ten feet or so in diameter - the four corners of which seemed to touch the inner lining of the bubble. They moved incredibly fast, had amazing maneuverability, and seemed to behave in ways that implied intelligence

The expert in military technology says many of the objects were not observable with the naked eye until
the systems they were using in the fighter jets and others were upgraded - revealing things that they hadn't noticed before. But once they started to see them, the flood gates opened. Almost as if some
objects may be able to allow themselves to be seen by humans at will

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

After over 70+ Years of reports, stigma, jokes finally people realized that we would have figured it out by now if it where birds,bugs,insects,planes.

When you still believe it’s fiction ok. Message Nasa or tell the Congress and Harvard it’s all fiction .

All they are saying is what they have always said...that these are Unidentified Flying Objects. They still aren't saying "these are aliens from outer space". There is still no proof of intelligent extra-terrestial visitors. The new term (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) actually broadens the definition rather than narrows it.

It’s about Real UFOs that can’t be explained.

It's about real UFO's that can't be explained...yet. When they can be explained (or at least identified)...they get passed on to the appropriate departments.

[PC2]

Yes good, there's too many people in the world who wrongly associate "UFO" with "alien activity", so hopefully this can be avoided with this new acronym. I've seen about 30 example of UFOs in my lifetime and I've never thought that aliens were the best explanation for the data, but i'll still keep an open-mind since extra-terrestrial life is theoretically possible.

[SovietBabeyyy]

There is still no proof of intelligent extra-terrestial visitors.

It's about real UFO's that can't be explained...yet. When they can be explained (or at least identified)...they get passed on to the appropriate departments.

Well there are rumors about Reverse Engineering efforts of crashed Crafts, the congress will after the mid-terms offer Immunity to Whistleblower’s that worked on those programs, granting them complete protection from legal troubles no matter what they have signed.

For your information the protection and immunity will apply to all secret and black projects regarding UFOs, mainly focusing on the Reverse Engineering Programs that happened in the PAST.

Starting from

01/01/1947

That’s the year Roswell happened. Nobody from us can say what really happened than. But i don’t think it’s a coincidence.

So just to be clear, on your statement „no evidence „

Evidence can exist since Years, not known to the Public.

You need to understand that.

Second

You are right when they got IDed as man-made they will be passed.

Temporary nonattributed objects, or those that are positively identified as man-made after analysis, will be passed to appropriate offices and should not be considered under the definition as unidentified aero- space-undersea phenomena.

So they will be trashed out, as soon they will be identified. While the

All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office will deal with the not man made objects.

Simple as that

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Yes good, there's too many people in the world who wrongly associate "UFO" with "alien activity", so hopefully this can be avoided with this new acronym. I've seen about 30 example of UFOs in my lifetime and I've never thought that aliens were the best explanation for the data, but i'll still keep an open-mind since extra-terrestrial life is theoretically possible.

I can agree that Real UFOS doesn’t mean necessarily Extra-Terrestrial Life.

But they follow sometimes planes, fighter jets, or even toy sometimes with them.

So something intelligent whatever their origin could be is responsible for it.

It’s good described from the Navy Pilots how the Object reacted.

I am glad this topic gets serious attention… because it’s more than weird and stunning.

It’s something real and we need to know what it is and how to better track them, anslyze them, see if there are patterns in their behaviour or when they appear and why.

So collecting Data is important.

[Kaleredar]

Well there are rumors about Reverse Engineering efforts of crashed Crafts, the congress will after the mid-terms offer Immunity to Whistleblower’s that worked on those programs, granting them complete protection from legal troubles no matter what they have signed.

For your information the protection and immunity will apply to all secret and black projects regarding UFOs, mainly focusing on the Reverse Engineering Programs that happened in the PAST.

And there are rumors that Walt Disney's cryogenically frozen head is kept under the Matterhorn bobsled coaster. What of it? People can say anything they want on the internet.

Starting from

01/01/1947

That’s the year Roswell happened. Nobody from us can say what really happened than. But i don’t think it’s a coincidence.

So just to be clear, on your statement „no evidence „

Evidence can exist since Years, not known to the Public.

You need to understand that.

There's basically zero chance that the governments the world over, through politician changes, regime changes, and all other manner of instability, warfare, and general ineptitude have managed to "hide any and all evidence" in any convincing way for more than seven decades.

It's like people claiming that the moon landings were all faked and that NASA managed to pay hush money to the thousands of people that would have been involved at every level, in perpetuity... except scaled up to the entire world.

Second

You are right when they got IDed as man-made they will be passed.

Temporary nonattributed objects, or those that are positively identified as man-made after analysis, will be passed to appropriate offices and should not be considered under the definition as unidentified aero- space-undersea phenomena.

So they will be trashed out, as soon they will be identified. While the

All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office will deal with the not man made objects.

Simple as that

"Things will be sorted into a pile of 'we know what it is' and 'we don't know what it is'" is not really proof of anything.

I can agree that Real UFOS doesn’t mean necessarily Extra-Terrestrial Life.

But they follow planes, fighter jets, or even toy sometimes with them. So something intelligent whatever their origin could be is responsible for it.

It’s good described from the Navy Pilots how the Object reacted.

The origin being human or simply misunderstanding some mundane (or even rare) but perfectly natural phenomenon is vastly, vastly, VASTLY more plausible than aliens.

Why? Because no mystery that was ever solved in human history has ever had the answer come up "it was aliens." Same applies to ghosts and magic.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Well there are rumors about Reverse Engineering efforts of crashed Crafts, the congress will after the mid-terms offer Immunity to Whistleblower’s that worked on those programs, granting them complete protection from legal troubles no matter what they have signed.

Bolded the most important word in your statement.

You are right when they got IDed as man-made they will be passed.

Temporary nonattributed objects, or those that are positively identified as man-made after analysis, will be passed to appropriate offices and should not be considered under the definition as unidentified aero- space-undersea phenomena.
So they will be trashed out, as soon they will be identified. While the

All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office will deal with the not man made objects.

"Not man made" is still not the same thing as "Extraterrestial"... there's a reason they changed the term from "Unidentified Flying Object" to "Unidentied Aerial Phenomena" because not all of the "UFO's" are actually objects...or, for that mater, actually flying. Unidentified means the same thing it aways has...that it has not been indentified. Some of these "UFO"s, when identified, have been determined to have been faulty readings from sensory equipment, optical illusions, etc.

So collecting Data is important.

I agree with you on that front.

[Kaleredar]

Bolded the most important word in your statement.



"Not man made" is still not the same thing as "Extraterrestial"... there's a reason they changed the term from "Unidentified Flying Object" to "Unidentied Aerial Phenomena" because not all of the "UFO's" are actually objects...or, for that mater, actually flying. Unidentified means the same thing it aways has...that it has not been indentified. Some of these "UFO"s, when identified, have been determined to have been faulty readings from sensory equipment, optical illusions, etc.



I agree with you on that front.

I've always found it humorous that some people's go to explanation is "we don't know what it is... so obviously, we know it's aliens."

[SovietBabeyyy]

@Kaleredar

You clearly don’t understand many things.

1.

I am happy the Congress believes in those Reverse Engineer Programs, and they picked up 1947 as Day 1.

So it’s fine for me when you try to get this topic into ridicule.

2.

What the hell you are talking all goverments of the world? We are talking about hard evidence, wich could only be real Alien Bodies or a Crashed Crafts, since theoretically all Videos/Pictures could be staged.

You assume that multiple Governments off the World are hidding Evidence. But you don’t count into your conspiracy that maybe only the US or maybe 2 other countries could posses such hard evidence

There could be 1,2, maybe 3 countrys that have a crashed craft in possession.

No world wide conspiracy needed. It’s natural that such countries would never admit it. Or release a statement to the public.

3.

Rare Natural Phenoma.. seriously… naturally occurring rare phenomena chasing Jets? And reacting to them?

You can explain some sightings with rare natural phenomena but not all or intelligent behaviour.


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Bolded the most important word in your statement.



"Not man made" is still not the same thing as "Extraterrestial"... there's a reason they changed the term from "Unidentified Flying Object" to "Unidentied Aerial Phenomena" because not all of the "UFO's" are actually objects...or, for that mater, actually flying. Unidentified means the same thing it aways has...that it has not been indentified. Some of these "UFO"s, when identified, have been determined to have been faulty readings from sensory equipment, optical illusions, etc.



I agree with you on that front.

Never said it is Aliens.

Without pushing any agenda i have to admit that i believe it has to be intelligent.

We can’t dismiss the testimony of pilots that UFOS following them, or reacted while they approached them.

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@Kaleredar

Would be a strange natural phenomena



the objects he saw were always cubes in transparent spheres - about ten feet or so in diameter - the four corners of which seemed to touch the inner lining of the bubble. They moved incredibly fast, had amazing maneuverability, and seemed to behave in ways that implied intelligence

The expert in military technology says many of the objects were not observable with the naked eye until
the systems they were using in the fighter jets and others were upgraded - revealing things that they hadn't noticed before. But once they started to see them, the flood gates opened. Almost as if some
objects may be able to allow themselves to be seen by humans at will

[luc54]

The origin being human or simply misunderstanding some mundane (or even rare) but perfectly natural phenomenon is vastly, vastly, VASTLY more plausible than aliens.

Why? Because no mystery that was ever solved in human history has ever had the answer come up "it was aliens." Same applies to ghosts and magic.

Ah yes reminds me of pentagon footage having "UFOS flying at high speed". Some other people did calc and it turned out to be sometying flying at 10 000 feet (bit over 3km) at reasonably slow speed aided by wind. It was clearly a bird flying.


There's no plausible evidence to suggest such phenomenna are aliens . The reason why there's so many reports of UAP by the military is that it's in their interest to look in sky for any potential threats and they need ability to identify and classify them. Since some of the pictures can be very hard to disgtunsging due to precision of measuring equiment they just call them unidentified. They also use these to prove they need more funding for better equipment in order to be able to identify these items as well.

[Endus]

There's no plausible evidence to suggest such phenomenna are aliens .

This is the problem. UAPs are just unidentified. That's an issue primarily of image resolution in most of these cases; the footage is grainy and/or the phenomena is really far away and hard to make out. So you can't tell what it is, for sure.

Anyone leaping to extra-terrestrial intelligences as an explanation is a wild conspiracy theorist who's been deluded into thinking sci-fi movies are real.

There is zero evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence. No high-res photographs or video, no physical remains whether biological or technological, no detectable communications of any kind from anywhere in sky we've bothered to check. Now, absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, but unicorns and Bigfoots are orders of magnitude more plausible than ETs at this point. At least we have evidence of analogues of the former two, and an idea of where they could fit in an evolutionary tree.

Here's the most damning thing, IMO; in the 'mid-late 20th, pictures of "UFOs" were all over the place, constantly new ones cropping up. Since we got cell phones with high-res cameras in everyone's pockets, so any given phenomenon would be captured from dozens if not hundreds or thousands of different points of view? Almost none. Because those that do come up are easily identifiable, for the most part, on analysis.

Claiming these military photos are evidence of ETs is like taking the word of that guy who's nearly blind without his glasses, claiming he was definitely pulled out of a fire in his house by Bigfoot. Definitely couldn't have just been a big dude with a beard.

If they're real, we'd be able to get actual evidence. Instead, we get a giant mountain of nothing except pareidolia that the nuts decide mean whatever they want it to mean.

You don't get to take questions marks and insert "ALIENS!" as your explanation, just because you really want it to be aliens. The same way you don't get to explain unanswered questions in science by saying "God did it". Your answer explains nothing and you're making it up based on a lack of evidence. That's not an answer.

[SovietBabeyyy]

ON SEPTEMBER 4th 1971, on board a twin-engine Aero Commander F680 aeroplane, an automated camera captured an image of a “flying saucer”, which to this day has never been successfully debunked.

The National Geographic Institute of Costa Rica was studying the potential impact on surrounding land and water of a hydroelectric project in the vicinity of the Arenal Volcano in the northern highlands.

At 10,000 feet, aerial photographer Sergio Loaiza activated the 100lb map-making camera. At 20 second intervals, the camera shot images of the water and rainforest in high resolution black and white.

None of the occupants were aware of what the camera had captured that morning. Even after the film was developed and the negatives filed away, they did not realise what they had captured.

Eventually, after pulling out the negatives to study potential ways to connect Lake Cote with the nearby Arenal Lagoon, they noticed the anomalous object hovering over Lake Cote.

On frame number 300, with a timestamp of 8.25am, the image shows what appears to be a shiny metallic disc on the right of the photograph. Over the years, the object’s size has been estimated to be between 120-220 feet in diameter.

Over the years the image has been analysed by various experts such as Costa Rican UFO researcher Ricardo Vílchez, Dr Richard Haines and Dr Jacques Vallée. THEY ALL CONCLUDED that the object in the photograph appeared real and was NOT the result of double exposure or a deliberate fabrication.

The analysis by Dr Richard Haines and Dr Jacques Vallée can be found here:

http://www.nicap.org/articles/710904...3_2_haines.pdf

https://www.scientificexploration.or...4_1_haines.pdf

Over time multiple naysayers and debunkers have offered prosaic explanations to explain the object, ranging from lens reflection to a teapot lid amongst other things. The fact remains that to this day it hasn’t been proven as to what exactly the photograph shows.


ast year Esteban Carranza sent the negative to a photo laboratory in Kansas, by the name of Michael Strickland Photography. He used a Tango Drum Scanner and produced a very high-quality scan of 1.7GB in size. A drum scanner acts essentially as a precision digital camera, used to scan reflective and transparent materials at an extremely high resolution. It captures the image with analog light, producing the most detail possible in each color channel and then converts it to a digital file.

[Endus]

The analysis by Dr Richard Haines and Dr Jacques Vallée can be found here:

http://www.nicap.org/articles/710904...3_2_haines.pdf

https://www.scientificexploration.or...4_1_haines.pdf

To be clear; the Society for Scientific Exploration, and their journal, the Journal of Scientific Exploration, are fringe science folks; they're into cryptids and psychic abilities and whatnot, they aren't a reputable source for anything and are not subject to peer review, despite their attempts to present their work in a similar manner as academic sources.

One of the other articles in the same journal issue as your first source was "A Case of Severe Birth Defects Possibly Due to Cursing". Yep, swearing causes birth defects apparently. The second shares an issue with "A Scientific Inquiry Into the Validity of Astrology". And they're from more than 30 years ago; none of this nonsense is new.

[SovietBabeyyy]

@Endus you are bullshitting

It’s all not real and fake, the pilots also invented

Black Cubes in Transparent Spheres
White TicTac shaped object.

Damn they are creative.

Yes the picture is a fake. To be precise every Picture is fake.

Every Video.
Every testimony.
Everything caught on radar or instruments are malfunctioning.


You can’t dismiss every single case.

Or dismiss the picture because what?

The picture is a UFO untill proofed otherwise simple as that.

It has a trustworthy and genuine background with no explanation.

That’s just ONE Fighter Jet Pilots testimony.

The expert in military technology says many of the objects were not observable with the naked eye until
the systems they were using in the fighter jets and others were upgraded - revealing things that they hadn't noticed before. But once they started to see them, the flood gates opened. Almost as if some
objects may be able to allow themselves to be seen by humans at will

So does this sound natural?

Come on . On Earth flying physical objects with intelligent behaviour exists, not only that they also outperform greatly everything that’s in our possession.

That’s no flying rocks
Or Russias hidden tech, laughable they merely can keep theie tiny part in UA .


You don’t even understand how hard it’s to catch a real ufo with smartphones, they are not made for such things.

You merely will see anything. Let a balloon loose and take s picture with average smartphone and you will understand that’s really a hard task to id what it is.


It’s a hard fight against the build up stigma.

But still it’s pushed like never before.

Curious why someone needs immunity when it’s all illusion fake and fiction

[Endus]

@Endus you are bullshitting

It’s all not real and fake,

I didn't say things like the images were automatically "not real". I said they are not, in any way whatsoever, evidence of alien life or flying saucers.

the pilots also invented

Black Cubes in Transparent Spheres
White TicTac shaped object.

Damn they are creative.

Hallucination. Pareidolia. Hypoxia. Confusion. Myriad explanations. Do you extend the same blind credulity to people who claim to see demons, or the future, or God?

You can’t dismiss every single case.

I can dismiss every single case that does not provide any reasonable evidence that conclusively demonstrates the existence of extraterrestrial life.

The same way I can dismiss every single claim of the Loch Ness Monster that fails to produce an actual monstrous animal in that lake.

Because without solid, incontrovertible evidence, you don't have an argument. And all this UFO stuff boils down to a single argument, in the end;

"I don't know, therefore aliens".

Literally the same as when young-Earth creationists say about scientific analysis "I don't know, therefore God". It's a god of the gaps argument, you're just replacing "God" with "aliens".

The picture is a UFO untill proofed otherwise simple as that.

In that it hasn't been determined what it is, or even if it's an actual photo of an actual object rather than some other kind of artifact introduced in the photographic process, sure.

But again, "I don't know" doesn't justify leaping to "must be aliens".

The overwhelming majority of photos claiming to show a UFO have been completely debunked. Pilots get confused about what they're seeing all the time. Our brains are pattern-recognition engines and the algorithms take a lot of shortcuts, because it was more useful to overreact to that maybe being a tiger in that shadow than taking the time to be sure it was a tiger, since by then it would have eaten you. Personal accounts like this are garbage testimony, even in court cases eyewitness testimony isn't considered particularly strong. Sure, there's a few that have yet to be explained, but that "yet" does not mean you get to stick whatever looney-tunes explanation you prefer in there instead of the truth.

[SovietBabeyyy]

@Endus

I am to tired to answer, there are indeed unexplainable physical objects in the sky, and not only that they also entered ocean and popped out of the ocean.

That’s why undersea anomalous objects are mentioned and official part of that institution to investigate.
So whatever it is, i would love to know.

For now i can only tell you ufos are real, outperform all what was ever build and created in the sky, and it shows intelligent behaviour.

People conclude that’s Aliens.

For me it’s enough that’s intelligent in nature.

[Endus]

@Endus

I am to tired to answer, there are indeed unexplainable physical objects in the sky, and not only that they also entered ocean and popped out of the ocean.

That’s why undersea anomalous objects are mentioned and official part of that institution to investigate.
So whatever it is, i would love to know.

For now i can only tell you ufos are real, outperform all what was ever build and created in the sky, and it shows intelligent behaviour.

People conclude that’s Aliens.

For me it’s enough that’s intelligent in nature.

And yet, you still don't have any proper evidence that confirms any of this. It's just as "real" as werewolves and Hercules.

[SovietBabeyyy]

And yet, you still don't have any proper evidence that confirms any of this. It's just as "real" as werewolves and Hercules.

Wait what? There is Evidence That those things are real objects.

From the Official UAP Report, just snipped that out for you.

The Evidence is speaking CLEARLY for Physical objects.

So the Hallucination Theory doesn’t fit.

I am curious how 2 different Fighter Jet Pilots had at the exact same time, the same hallucination.

Brain link and synchronized?

[Calfredd]

Wait what? There is Evidence That those things are real objects.

From the Official UAP Report, just snipped that out for you.

The Evidence is speaking CLEARLY for Physical objects.

So the Hallucination Theory doesn’t fit.

I am curious how 2 different Fighter Jet Pilots had at the exact same time, the same hallucination.

Brain link and synchronized?


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Are you that dense? Endus is literally only saying that UFO=/=Aliens?!?!?!.

Also why does your christian newspaper have "fighter" not only a different size but also a different font from the rest of the article?

[MCMLXXXII]

Are you that dense? Endus is literally only saying that UFO=/=Aliens?!?!?!.

Also why does your christian newspaper have "fighter" not only a different size but also a different font from the rest of the article?

It's clearly not photoshop, so it must be.......

Aliens.

[Endus]

Wait what? There is Evidence That those things are real objects.

From the Official UAP Report, just snipped that out for you.

In some cases. Note that's only considering a very specific slice of reports. And "physical objects" in these kinds of cases have almost always turned out to be things like birds or whatnot. The problem is you leap directly from "we can't immediately identify it" to "gotta be aliens, yo!" based on nothing to back that up. There's as much evidence that it's a dragon or a witch on a broomstick.

Like, the big Pentagon release of footage a year or so back had one where there was exactly this kind of "object" being automatically tracked, traveling at what appeared to be a high speed, and then it appeared to instantly accelerate to an even higher speed far faster than any aircraft could, let alone with a human pilot suffering such G-forces.

I am curious how 2 different Fighter Jet Pilots had at the exact same time, the same hallucination.

Brain link and synchronized?

Mass hallucination is a thing. Humans are highly suggestible. Especially under conditions like hypoxia, which isn't uncommon in high-altitude flights if something's wrong with your oxygen mix.

Seriously, look up some proper analytical work. Here's a decent Youtube breakdown of at least some of the elements of one of the infamous new videos;


The end result of all these analyses? Probably just a plane, and the weird behaviour is pretty much entirely down to the specific camera being used to track it.