1 year sub plan is here .. yikes

[Relapses]

Not always. I want WoW to DIAF, so I cheer when the devs do something idiotic. More fuel for pyre!

You've been saying that about the last few expansions but you always seem to end up buying and playing each new one that gets released so I can't say you're a particularly good example of the sentiment you're expressing.

[rhorle]

You really think that? There is no goal in life that you haven't achieved yet? Not one skill? You never wanted to learn a language or an instrument.

I didn't say that. WoW however doesn't stop me from doing other things in life. Do not confuse how you played with how everyone plays. You are trying awfully hard to always make anyone who plays WoW out to be a bad person. While you, and the others who quit, are paragons. Why are you here discussing if all you want to do is insult and tell people how terrible they are for enjoying something you do not?

You say you want to be a game developer while insulting anyone who plays games as terrible people with no potential. It is a strange dynamic to say the least.

[Thirtyrock]

You really think that? There is no goal in life that you haven't achieved yet? Not one skill? You never wanted to learn a language or an instrument. Travel to another country and made friends with locals? You're a master at your profession? There isn't some promotion or other career you would like to have if you could? You don't have a weight issue or a drinking issue? You're not abusing Netflix or youtube or porn? Do you have a perfect relationship with your spouse, children, or neighbors? You have perfect charisma and people flock toward you where ever you are? Are you well read? Have you fully consumed the deep wealthy of history and philosophy that your ancestors have left to be inherited by you?
Have you taken a look at yourself, at your own two hands, and decided that this was the best way you could live your one short life. Of all your potential, this was what was worth your effort?

There is nothing in the world you'd rather do than play World of Warcraft?

I am a Brazilian Jiu jitsu black belt with a masters degree in history who works as a salesforce administrator making 6 figures. I have a beautiful son and wife. I hike and snowboard and camp.

I speak German well enough to vacation but not to live or work.

Im fine bro.
Most adult players I know are well adjusted and happy with their lives overall as well. I literally don’t know any one who no life’s wow anymore.

[Relapses]

I think your take is wrong. Let's use you for example. You've been on this forum for 10 years and you actively spend time defending the game. It seems like you are extremely active on here. Why do you feel the need to argue with people on a fansite? Have you convinced even 1 person that WoW is a good game and they should play it?

You have fun writing about your opinion on the internet and so do other people. No need to say its "weird behavior". Especially since you are on the forums more than anyone.

Cope and seethe, my guy. My post count has nothing to do with this conversation. I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything. If you're disturbed by me calling out people who refuse to move the fuck on with their lives for their weird behavior then that's a you issue.

[liyroot]

I didn't say that. WoW however doesn't stop me from doing other things in life. Do not confuse how you played with how everyone plays. You are trying awfully hard to always make anyone who plays WoW out to be a bad person. While you, and the others who quit, are paragons. Why are you here discussing if all you want to do is insult and tell people how terrible they are for enjoying something you do not?

You say you want to be a game developer while insulting anyone who plays games as terrible people with no potential. It is a strange dynamic to say the least.

I'm sorry you're interpreting me that way. I look at it like this. We are brothers. You're a better person than I am as far as I know. I like you. I'm just telling you, if you wanted to do something else, then just quit WoW and you can do that thing. It made me happier. If you don't want to do anything else, then just ignore what I'm writing.

And I love video games. There are a lot of amazing games out there. Nintendo still makes great products. And there are a lot of indie devs that respect their players. But what these giant companies(Activision, Bethesda, Ubisoft, Microsoft) are doing are not video games in my opinion. They treat their customers like a credit cards and are actively trying to trick you into spending money. Not sure how that can be debated. I fell for every trick they threw at me. And now I want to tell people about the tactics they are using. Is that so wrong?

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I am a Brazilian Jiu jitsu black belt with a masters degree in history who works as a salesforce administrator making 6 figures. I have a beautiful son and wife. I hike and snowboard and camp.

I speak German well enough to vacation but not to live or work.

Im fine bro.
Most adult players I know are well adjusted and happy with their lives overall as well. I literally don’t know any one who no life’s wow anymore.

That's awesome man. Congratulations on the enormity of your success. You must of worked extremely hard. If someone wasn't as fulfilled as you are was playing WoW, would you recommend that they buy 1 year subscription?

[Osmeric]

You've been saying that about the last few expansions but you always seem to end up buying and playing each new one that gets released so I can't say you're a particularly good example of the sentiment you're expressing.

No, I wasn't saying this for the last few expansions. It was only in SL where I gave up. I have not spent a single $ on WoW since then. My last login was in early 2021 as my sub ran out. I have not bought DF, I have not played classic, I do not have WoW installed on any computer.

[Thirtyrock]

That's awesome man. Congratulations on the enormity of your success. You must of worked extremely hard. If someone wasn't as fulfilled as you are was playing WoW, would you recommend that they buy 1 year subscription?

Yes, actually. I think if WoW is a hobby and not an addiction, and trust, I know some people who I don’t think should play anymore because they can’t moderate, but for someone like me. Yeah. The years subscription is a save bet. I’d recommend it. I actually did to one of my buddies. I said, “if you decide to come back and play with this guild, I think you’ll stick around. Come trial with us and if you like it I think the year subscription is a good deal”. He’s not sure he’ll stick around, so he’s not buying it. Ok, that makes sense to me.

I get where you’re coming from. Some people dove too deep and couldn’t regulate how much time they play. I can and a lot of us can. Just be more careful not to project onto the rest of us!

[Relapses]

No, I wasn't saying this for the last few expansions. It was only in SL where I gave up. I have not spent a single $ on WoW since then. My last login was in early 2021 as my sub ran out. I have not bought DF, I have not played classic, I do not have WoW installed on any computer.

I distinctly remember having similar discussions with you in Legion and BfA but more power to you if you've actually managed to quit the game altogether.

[liyroot]

Yes, actually. I think if WoW is a hobby and not an addiction, and trust, I know some people who I don’t think should play anymore because they can’t moderate, but for someone like me. Yeah. The years subscription is a save bet. I’d recommend it. I actually did to one of my buddies. I said, “if you decide to come back and play with this guild, I think you’ll stick around. Come trial with us and if you like it I think the year subscription is a good deal”. He’s not sure he’ll stick around, so he’s not buying it. Ok, that makes sense to me.

I get where you’re coming from. Some people dove too deep and couldn’t regulate how much time they play. I can and a lot of us can. Just be more careful not to project onto the rest of us!

Thank for responding. Makes sense.

[Grahamington]

Honestly, the fact that Blizzard removed the ability to purchase 30 days of game time and made it 60, is pretty frustrating.

[Kajitheninja]

Honestly, the fact that Blizzard removed the ability to purchase 30 days of game time and made it 60, is pretty frustrating.

you can still purchase 30 days what are you talking about?

[Thirtyrock]

I'm sorry you're interpreting me that way. I look at it like this. We are brothers. You're a better person than I am as far as I know. I like you. I'm just telling you, if you wanted to do something else, then just quit WoW and you can do that thing. It made me happier. If you don't want to do anything else, then just ignore what I'm writing.

And I love video games. There are a lot of amazing games out there. Nintendo still makes great products. And there are a lot of indie devs that respect their players. But what these giant companies(Activision, Bethesda, Ubisoft, Microsoft) are doing are not video games in my opinion. They treat their customers like a credit cards and are actively trying to trick you into spending money. Not sure how that can be debated. I fell for every trick they threw at me. And now I want to tell people about the tactics they are using. Is that so wrong?

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Here’s the thing. I’m not the only one who interpreted you this way. A lot of us did and you appeared to double down. Some of your posts were pretty insulting.

To be fair, a lot of posts directed at you were pretty insulting. Some of my own probably flirted or even crossed the line. If they did, I apologize.

If you had come with this tone earlier on, I would have said “good points. Everyone should be conscientious when making purchases, especially if they are big purchases for their budget.” And then followed up with why I made my decision.

But you came in hot. I trust you when you say that wasn’t your intention, but when multiple people are interpreting you in a certain way, you have to ask where the misunderstanding is.

Thank you for these last few comments. They’ve been much more kind and personable. I greatly appreciate it.

[Darsithis]

It's just a reskinned gronnling though.

Maybe the skeleton or perhaps the animation, but the mount itself - body, textures, saddle - are all new.

Honestly I don’t even care about the mounts - I have HUNDREDS - I can’t possibly ride them all. I know that I’ll never cancel my sub anytime soon, even when I barely play, so why not save a few bucks and do a year at once?

[Stickiler]

Oh, it is indeed completely fine and on you for doing questionable investments. It is your money after all.

Pretending that we are talking about Blizzard of a decade or more ago, however, it's plain silly and people are expected to point and laugh at those who do.

As far as their lately performance go, the only thing they are OFFERING you is the act of locking your subscription during possible WoD/Shadowlands-quality content and REMOVING your ability of voting with your wallet if the mediocrity does continue.

If that's still a really good deal, my brother in Christ, I'd be concerned.

I certainly hope Dragonflight is of similar quality to Shadowlands, SL has been my favourite expansion thus far, and I've been playing since Wrath.

[Lochton]

Honestly, the fact that Blizzard removed the ability to purchase 30 days of game time and made it 60, is pretty frustrating.

You have 2 ways to get 30 days of game time still, mate. We're good.

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Honestly I don’t even care about the mounts - I have HUNDREDS - I can’t possibly ride them all. I know that I’ll never cancel my sub anytime soon, even when I barely play, so why not save a few bucks and do a year at once?

Many seem to skip the thought that you are paying for 10 months but getting 2 months extra, AND, the mounts, and they keep looking at yourself "locking" yourself in for some mounts without realizing, there are people who keep it running, there are people who play the game for a long time (without being addicts at that).

[richardhuntr]

Honestly, the fact that Blizzard removed the ability to purchase 30 days of game time and made it 60, is pretty frustrating.

Have they actually removed this? I still have the option online to buy 30 days only.

[Lochton]

Have they actually removed this? I still have the option online to buy 30 days only.

The singular game time card function of 30 days has been removed but you can still get 30 days for 20 euros, or 300k+ gold (If EU, dunno with US), or just subscribe 1 month and cancel.

[Orange Joe]

you can still purchase 30 days what are you talking about?

He is talking about gametime not a sub or token you can only buy gametime at 60 days now

[GreenJesus]

The recycled mounts are the Classic Wrath ones, though, which makes sense, meanwhile, you get the Murloc right away, the Chinese new year mount, and one more later.


I would buy a 1-year sub without the mounts because you only pay for 10 months, what holds me away from buying it, is just the sheer fact that it is a chunk of money that I do not believe I should use now with Christmas coming up.


They showed 5 months, none of them technically old, one is a recolor while others are reskins.


See now, this is where it gets fun, for I'm not buying it yet, though my wife insists I should because I would be saving some 155 dollars.


Just before it expires, because saving money?


Ain't no FOMO issues from me, mate.


Oh no, I got tricked into playing a game I enjoy for a cheaper than if I were to pay monthly!? AND I GET MOUNTS FOR FREE!?


You are correct about the Wrath Classic mounts. As for the others, most likely not except for one, but what is the fault in that? They were free?


Nope, except for one, I am actually looking forward to the Chinese New Year one, as it is the first time Blizzard has made a Rabbit mount.


Desperate person, get real, you aren't spitting news or shocking people but in the end, there are still hundreds of mounts, some less used than others, we all have our favorites.


Yes, because that is a feature but you know, there is a VAST world that isn't the Dragon Isles? Even so, old mounts are working on the Isle, and old flight will be too in a future patch.

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They have just added some 100 people to the WoW team, and are aiming for faster patches..

They added tons of people before WoD as well. Their excuse for WoD's lack of content was because they were training all of the new people and didn't have time to make content.

[Orange Joe]

Cool story buddy.
But one does not earn 6 figures on a masters degree in history.
Nice try though.
Back to the basement with you.

I'm not gonna argue if he is telling the truth but, he never said he makes 6 figures from his masters.