2022 Midterms

[Fugus]

Chase just picked up another .1% - that is decidedly NOT good for Warnock's chances of closing out the election and avoiding a runoff

True, but its virtually guaranteed that 100% of Chases voters will go to Warnock given that Chase's views are almost tailor made to poach left leaning voters.

On the bright side, according to Yahoo, the Democrats flipped 1 Senate seat now.

But the GOP flipped 9 in congress compared to the Democrats 3 which still keep the Dems in control I think.

[Very Tired]

So it looks like Kari Lake is going to (thankfully) lose AZ? So looking forward to the 2020 renewal and repeat of election fraud accusations thrown around everywhere.

[s_bushido]

How is it looking in NV as far as who's winning so far?

Google has a map of live results sourced from the AP if you don't want to actually look for more in-depth coverage from a newscast. Just search "midterms" and it will come up (maybe not if you're out of the States, idk).

[beanman12345]

Senate Dem incumbent is leading 10 points with 45% of the vote tallied.

Dem Governor incumbent is leading by 8 points with 45% reported.

They mentioned when they got this exact batch in 2020, Dem's are actually overperforming comparatively. Good stuff!

[cubby]

So it looks like Kari Lake is going to (thankfully) lose AZ? So looking forward to the 2020 renewal and repeat of election fraud accusations thrown around everywhere.

Lake is behind by 11 points with 54% of the vote in. Historically, nationally, early results favor Republicans. So it's looking promising.

[Fugus]

Interesting stuff, it looks like the Republicans could have potentially messed up with their North Carolina gerrymander.

I added up the votes from the districts. As it stands it is 7D/7R in it but according to the popular vote it is 1,816,628D/1,941,858R putting it as roughly equal with a slight red edge.

This is the first time in over a decade that our actual results roughly measured our popular vote.

Still completely screwed up that the GOP has this strong of a showing here after all they have done.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Lake is behind by 11 points with 54% of the vote in. Historically, nationally, early results favor Republicans. So it's looking promising.

Not if they are mail in votes but this being Arizona my guess is in person would have the priority.

[DarkTZeratul]

I saw someone remark that the only places where Republicans are making gains are the places where they redrew the districts to their advantage.

[beanman12345]

I saw someone remark that the only places where Republicans are making gains are the places where they redrew the districts to their advantage.

More or less, yes and no. It didn't go there way in that freak accident in NY, but it did go their way in FL, and TX,

[s_bushido]

True, but its virtually guaranteed that 100% of Chases voters will go to Warnock given that Chase's views are almost tailor made to poach left leaning voters.

You say that, but this guy on MSNBC mentioned that a lot of people in districts that voted for the GOP governor have voted for this Libertarian candidate in the Senate race. That basically they want to vote R, but couldn't stomach voting for Walker. When push comes to shove, I would not take it as a guarantee that they won't hold their nose and vote for the distasteful Republican candidate if it means keeping a Dem out of office.

[Fugus]

You say that, but this guy on MSNBC mentioned that a lot of people in districts that voted for the GOP governor have voted for this Libertarian candidate. That basically they want to vote R, but couldn't stomach voting for Walker. When push comes to shove, I would not take it as a guarantee that they won't hold their nose and vote for the Republican candidate if it means keeping a Dem out of office.

Holding their nose or just staying home, the result is still leaving Warnock in the lead.

Chase's page has him attacking the patriot act, making immigration easier, getting rid of qualified immunity for police, and ending the war on drugs. They voted for a hard left wing libertarian there.

[s_bushido]

Holding their nose or just staying home, the result is still leaving Warnock in the lead.

Chase's page has him attacking the patriot act, making immigration easier, getting rid of qualified immunity for police, and ending the war on drugs. They voted for a hard left wing libertarian there.

"Holding their nose" means they vote for him anyway.

What I'm saying is that it doesn't matter what Chase's positions are, they only voted for him because he wasn't either a Democrat or Walker. That if it had been literally any other Republican candidate without all this ridiculous baggage, the race wouldn't even be close.

TL;DR: They aren't left-leaning voters.

[Cthulhu 2020]

What about the people who think the Democrats have a messaging problem, and also vote Democrat?

Most people who say Democrats have a messaging problem, probably think that messaging problem is different from what those people think it is. Here's the thing: They need to go a bit more aggressively, but not go full stupid. Republicans would absolutely kick Democrats in the ass at full stupid messaging. Because they're far more experienced with roping them in.

[Fugus]

"Holding their nose" means they vote for him anyway.

What I'm saying is that it doesn't matter what Chase's positions are, they only voted for him because he wasn't either a Democrat or Walker. That if it had been literally any other Republican candidate without all this ridiculous baggage, the race wouldn't even be close.

Yes, I understand that, I am saying that if it goes to the run off, their choices are back to what it was before, they can either vote for Warnock the college educated Reverend with the D by his name, Walker whom they don't want to, or they can stay home.

Quite literally, they did a protest vote last time, so this one would be either not voting or choosing which evil they hate more, voting for a good man with the D by his name or a complete liar and hypocrite who has personally done everything he claimed to stand against because he has the R. Many of them will not be able to make that choice without admitting to themselves, on a personal level, that they have no principles anymore.

Edit:

And I am betting that a majority of those Chase voters weren't republicans but actual voters who supported his policies and feared a religious man in office given the current actions the "Religious" people are trying for.

[Cthulhu 2020]

So, holding congress and senate and flipping 2 governors in this climate would be considered pretty huge, wouldn't it?

Since governors are the heads of the executive branch of their state: Yes. Police reform possible, local judge appointments, and a few other things.

[Rasulis]

With 71% of the votes in, Boebert is behind Frisch (52% to 47.9%) in Colorado.

[s_bushido]

Here's the thing: They need to go a bit more aggressively, but not go full stupid.

Yes. Democrat policies are (generally) good, but they're simply not big enough assholes to contend with the shitbags on the other side of the aisle. They need to be bigger assholes, not change to shitty policies.

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With 71% of the votes in, Boebert is behind Frisch (52% to 47.9%) in Colorado.

This is hopeful news. The fewer people like her in positions of power, the better.

[beanman12345]

Most people who say Democrats have a messaging problem, probably think that messaging problem is different from what those people think it is. Here's the thing: They need to go a bit more aggressively, but not go full stupid. Republicans would absolutely kick Democrats in the ass at full stupid messaging. Because they're far more experienced with roping them in.

I don't understand the "dem's have a messaging problem" personally. I think Dem's are WAY better at messaging then GQP. What I mean is the masses get so brainwashed they just believe whatever they hear on social media, on main stream media. Many just accept it and vote GQP based on their messaging. In order for Dem's to counter, they need to educate. The fact that they're educating the majority kinda shows their messaging plan is successful. They're also fighting suppression at crazy levels, and overcoming that too.

[CostinR]

Looking at 538 at the moment we're seeing 48 Republicans ( Alaska hasn't been called but it's Republican, 47 others have been called ). There's 4 states still up for grabs, Republicans only leading in Wisconsin at the moment, even should they win that they'd need to win 2 more out of 3 left to take majority in the Senate.

That seems unlikely to me. So Democrats retain control of the Senate most likely.

[cubby]

With 71% of the votes in, Boebert is behind Frisch (52% to 47.9%) in Colorado.

It would be the cherry on top if that stupid fucking hooker lost her seat during the "Red Wave".