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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by mbit2 View Post
    If you ever wanted to know the origin of dracthyr:
    https://www.furaffinity.net/view/23052234/
    https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p...-VERSION/89137
    welcome to second live, where you can erp with dragon fursona's
    There's an entire community around this distinct style of humanoid dragons (just look at the store 2nd link) and blizz artist already admitted on twitter being a furry. So now you know the true origin lore for newest race furry dragon.
    It's called a scaley tyvm..

  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by AtomR View Post
    Since you use it as a criticism. So even IF they had done ONE race look like drag queens. Why are you complaining about that? You have dozens of other races. Go play those. But you clutch your pearls about the "woke agenda". If it insults you then obviously there still needs to be more.

    And even if this isn't a good enough answer, create a Dracthyr and check out the other options that you may find that don't look gay or drag queen. Again, if you can't find it, play another character.
    I'm not criticizing the gay, I'm criticizing the fact that it looks gay. I used the word as a description. Completely neutral. If something looks gay, it looks gay. It's not my fault.
    I felt the blood elves did not look gay and played one for a very long time. The new race goes too far in my opinion.

    You can only play the new class as a drag queen or woman. And I want to test them out.

    And it doesn't offend me, I just don't like it.
    The woke annoys me because it's forced on everyone. The holy woke warriors describe problems that don't exist or create problems themselves by their pushy nature.

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    Imagine comparing people to fucking tomatos.

    here is a better example, what if someone started saying (let us use your own example)
    "Ew fuck greek people, woke culture forcing them into my game, get them the fuck outta here, I don't wanna look like a greek person, fucking clowns"
    That is what people are doing in this thread.
    you can fuckoff using tomatos to compare to real people mate.
    I mean, whether you like it or not, my culture (along with the Ancient Romans) shaped the way for Western culture as a whole. The basis of mathematics, science and philosophy all started here, right under the Acropolis, 15 mins walking distance from my ancestral home in Athens. Hate us or love us, the reason you live in a building that doesn't fall over is cause of Pythagoras, the reason you can understand logic (cause and effect) is because of Aristotle etc & so forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbit2 View Post
    And another emotional contrarian response. Really difficult people want something that represents them. A bit like you using a chaos space marine betraying humanity to represent your insufferable persona.
    Yes different people want different things, but less fragile people don’t avoid things on the basis of them challenging there sexuality/masculinity.

    And a chaos Primarch, quite a step up in insufferably compared to space marine.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jk1895 View Post
    I'm not criticizing the gay, I'm criticizing the fact that it looks gay. I used the word as a description. Completely neutral. If something looks gay, it looks gay. It's not my fault.
    I felt the blood elves did not look gay and played one for a very long time. The new race goes too far in my opinion.

    You can only play the new class as a drag queen or woman. And I want to test them out.

    And it doesn't offend me, I just don't like it.
    The woke annoys me because it's forced on everyone. The holy woke warriors describe problems that don't exist or create problems themselves by their pushy nature.
    Ok if you can define what 'gay looks like" why don't you define for us what straight looks like?
    Why don't you explain it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalinos View Post
    I mean, whether you like it or not, my culture (along with the Ancient Romans) shaped the way for Western culture as a whole. The basis of mathematics, science and philosophy all started here, right under the Acropolis, 15 mins walking distance from my ancestral home in Athens. Hate us or love us, the reason you live in a building that doesn't fall over is cause of Pythagoras, the reason you can understand logic (cause and effect) is because of Aristotle etc & so forth.
    Cool, so if I started spouting here how "I hate how your people look, and would never want to look like you", and started using anti-greek slurs, that would be ok as you have said multiple times right?

    Cause that is what I pointed out earlier people doing, and you said it was perfectly fine because "You can't tell people what they do/do not like"


    You can say "I don't like your clothes"
    It becomes obvious you are a fuckwitt when that simple sentence becomes
    "I don't like your gay clothes"
    Notice the one addition that you just HAD to make, usually that is the thing you actually hate.



    cause actual qoutes from this thread
    "The male version looks so gay. That's stupid because much too woke."
    "And yes the male versions look gay, as if they are part of the Azerothian's Drag Race"
    "or the pose just looks too gay, and that has been a thing people have been saying since TBC."
    "They do look gay, I'm not gay so I wont be playing one because i don't want my character looking like some fem twink."
    "Because i don't like how queer and gay the visage forms look"


    They would be perfectly normal complaints if they were
    "The male version looks so bad. That's stupid."
    "And yes the male versions look bad"
    "or the pose just looks bad, and that has been a thing people have been saying since TBC."
    "They do look bad, I wont be playing one because i don't want my character looking bad."
    "Because i don't like how bad the visage forms look"



    all valid complaints, these would be perfectly fine, but the feel to add that you dislike them BECAUSE they are "gay" suddenly makes it obvious, you don't dislike it cause you think it is "bad" you dislike it cause you think it is "gay"
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  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Dalinos View Post
    I mean, let's face it. I will agree with other posters that drag aesthetics and drag culture were a HUGE influence when making the Visage forms. It's as obvious as Rhaneyra's bastards in House of the Dragon. Everyone knows it. Everyone can see it. The moment someone talks about how they have an issue with that, or how they will not be playing Drac'thyr because the aesthetics don't match with their tastes, they get accused of random shit. That's what's dishonest.
    It's a defense mechanism. Plenty of people go further than that, throwing accusations of wokeness, spreading agendas and what not. So when someone comes alongs and comments: "lol gay not playing it", he will get similar treatment. Simple (if unfortunate) collateral damage. And the reason for that? Since the introduction of Dracthyr, the discussion was NEVER about choosing white T-shit over black one; it was about "them shoving white T-shirts down our throats, cause woke yada yada". If you have any modicum of social awareness, surely you have to understand that.

  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalinos View Post
    I mean at this point you're just trolling. Nearly 21k posts in 5 years. What an awesome way to spend your time buddy.
    I’m sorry that you read and type at such a low level that you think posting on a fourm takes a lot of time, Mabye all your short comings are contributing to your bigoted views?

    Self hate leading to bigotry is quite common after all.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

  8. #128
    They look atrocious, but I guess Blizzard are really determined for these things to exist as they are.

  9. #129
    The heads look dope but jeebus those malformed wimpy bodies. If they were beefy hulky brutes and having at least one face variant without a grin then I’d consider playing one. Although, I am not interested in the class at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loras View Post
    ...You realise that a literal clown at a literal bank tends to stand out less than most actual drag queens in almost any given crowd, right?

    That's kinda the thing: Doing everything to draw attention and then going "OMG stop obsessing over me!!!".

    It gets old real quick.
    Yes Billy bob tell us more how you see more clowns at banks then you see gay people, I’m sure we all want to know how you and your sister wife are doing in Alabama.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

  11. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    I’m sorry that you read and type at such a low level that you think posting on a fourm takes a lot of time, Mabye all your short comings are contributing to your bigoted views?

    Self hate leading to bigotry is quite common after all.
    Aren't self-hate accusations from those that try to defend people that cannot even stand their own biological sex a little bit ironic?
    This is a signature of an ailing giant, boundless in pride, wit and strength.
    Yet also as humble as health and humor permit.

    Furthermore, I consider that Carthage Slam must be destroyed.

  12. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalinos View Post
    I mean, whether you like it or not, my culture (along with the Ancient Romans) shaped the way for Western culture as a whole. The basis of mathematics, science and philosophy all started here, right under the Acropolis, 15 mins walking distance from my ancestral home in Athens. Hate us or love us, the reason you live in a building that doesn't fall over is cause of Pythagoras, the reason you can understand logic (cause and effect) is because of Aristotle etc & so forth.
    It must cause you great distress to know how gay Ancient Romans were.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by Loveliest View Post
    How does "gay" look? Gay defines sexuality not how a person looks... even if you like the past, the comment makes no sense (but out of curiosity, how far back in the past? Up to slavery?)
    Whup someone had goes all the way back to "slavery"??? how the hell dude? xD XD XD

    I'm just talking about a past where there were zero to no snowflakes online that would get upset about someone calling something "gay"

    I miss the early 2010's where the internet was a heaven to talk shit without it being a political correct circus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boddhi View Post
    The heads look dope but jeebus those malformed wimpy bodies. If they were beefy hulky brutes and having at least one face variant without a grin then I’d consider playing one. Although, I am not interested in the class at all.
    You can choose a vairent with a much larger body, and there is many face varients without the grin so don't worry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark-Zarupia View Post
    Whup someone had goes all the way back to "slavery"??? how the hell dude? xD XD XD

    I'm just talking about a past where there were zero to no snowflakes online that would get upset about someone calling something "gay"

    I miss the early 2010's where the internet was a heaven to talk shit without it being a political correct circus
    Man lamenting about the days when you could call people racial/anti-semetic/homophobic slurs and not get in trouble for it is not exactly something you should be proud of...
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    Quote Originally Posted by loras View Post
    Aren't self-hate accusations from those that try to defend people that cannot even stand their own biological sex a little bit ironic?
    You think gay people can’t stand there own sex? Odd how they spend so much time with that sex then….
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

  16. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Yes Billy bob tell us more how you see more clowns at banks then you see gay people, I’m sure we all want to know how you and your sister wife are doing in Alabama.
    Ah, interesting of being accused of American stereotypes while not being an American, par for the course of the pretentiously wide perspective'd, yet practically blinded by the narrow American view of the "world", which tends to end at the own social neighborhood.

    Anyway, conflating gays with drag queens is downright insulting; one is just a sexual preference, the other is a weird form of exhibitionism bordering on mental illness.
    This is a signature of an ailing giant, boundless in pride, wit and strength.
    Yet also as humble as health and humor permit.

    Furthermore, I consider that Carthage Slam must be destroyed.

  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark-Zarupia View Post
    Whup someone had goes all the way back to "slavery"??? how the hell dude? xD XD XD

    I'm just talking about a past where there were zero to no snowflakes online that would get upset about someone calling something "gay"

    I miss the early 2010's where the internet was a heaven to talk shit without it being a political correct circus
    Waxing nostalgic about the freedom to use gamer words without repercussion isn't exactly a good look. Society moved on, you should too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panda040 View Post
    enjoy your flashy visage form and lack of transmog as a drakthyr
    Oh I sure will, cause I'm not fragile enough to think it can hurt my sexual identity
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    nazi is not the abbreviation of national socialism....
    When googling 4 letters is asking too much fact-checking.

  19. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    It must cause you great distress to know how gay Ancient Romans were.
    Not at all, unlike you, I am well versed in Ancient History. Comes as a side-effect of having stuff like Homer's Iliad, Odyssey and Virgil's Aeneid being read to me as bedtime stories. You're the only one here projecting my dude. Noone else. You turned a simple "Lol visage forms look like drag queens I wont play them" to something ideological. Take your bullshit elsewhere please.

  20. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    You think gay people can’t stand there own sex? Odd how they spend so much time with that sex then….
    How many gays do you know that care about looking effeminate? Amsterdam has plenty of tastes, yet few are obsessing over looking like something they are not.
    This is a signature of an ailing giant, boundless in pride, wit and strength.
    Yet also as humble as health and humor permit.

    Furthermore, I consider that Carthage Slam must be destroyed.

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