So first world 80 lvl done by exploit/glitch or what?

[trapmaster]

like...13 years ago it has happened........ ok

[vian]

Yet here you are, posting on on forum for a almost two decade old game. I don't get it.

Yeah, I can see that.

[Orange Joe]

Belief doesn't = fact

World first level 80 WotLK occurred in 2008, that's fact.

I'm done caring about replies now.

Fact: there was another race in 2022.
Fact: the person/people who got first were world firsts.

[Jazzhands]

like...13 years ago it has happened........ ok

I didn't know they launched WoTLK:Classic 13 years ago, damn I'm really out of the loop.

[kranur]

Do you think if he was normal player not a Echo's member, someone would question if that was legal?

No. No one would question it. And that's because they simply don't give a shit about what gpes on in classic. Ever since tbc classic they cared less and less, like they can't even be bothered to fix bugs that are not super game breaking.
For examlle we're now months after beta started and a refreshed corruption still disappears with 2 seconda left ... won't even go into the smaller ones lol.

[Spl4sh3r]

So what do you think about world's first 80 lvl WOTLK Classic?
Player Naowh done it by using og wrath spot. There is an elite mob that non stop summons zombies and if you tag them before he summons new ones, when he does they despawn and you get full xp for the ones that despawned. Also using 4 dead lvl 1s in his party (multiboxing) makes it so he gets the full group xp.

That gave him near-two milion experience per hour.

Do you think if he was normal player not a Echo's member, someone would question if that was legal?

Thats official word from Blizzard's Support:
You are responsible for how you and your account are represented in the game world. Cheating in any fashion will result in immediate action. Using third-party programs to automate any facet of the game, exploiting bugs, or engaging in any activity that grants an unfair advantage is considered cheating.

The exploit here is that he gets experience even though he doesn't kill them. As for having dead people in the party, what are you on about? You don't get more experience for having party members, whether dead or alive.

[kranur]

The exploit here is that he gets experience even though he doesn't kill them. As for having dead people in the party, what are you on about? You don't get more experience for having party members, whether dead or alive.

You do. If you have a full party, you get max bonus xp. Starts at 3 players iirc.
The exploi5 might be that the xp does not get split woth the dead ones, but the bonus still applies, just a guess.

[AlmightyGerkin]

You know you don't legally own your WoW account, right? Blizzard does, you essentially just pay to rent it. This is why they can stop providing the service or delete your account whenever they want for whatever reason they want.

They can't just delete your account whenever they want for whatever reason. They abide by a code as do the players. They need a valid reason for their action. What you state is nonsense

[Jazzhands]

They can't just delete your account whenever they want for whatever reason. They abide by a code as do the players. They need a valid reason for their action. What you state is nonsense

They absolutely can. They're the sole owner of World of Warcraft and everything related to it, which includes all data including accounts. The only reason they don't is because as long as it's there, there's a chance you will keep paying. It's counter-intuitive to their business to delete accounts for no reason, but that doesn't mean they can't. They could just shut the game down on a whim tomorrow and delete every single account and there's not a damn thing anyone could do about it.

[AlmightyGerkin]

They absolutely can. They're the sole owner of World of Warcraft and everything related to it, which includes all data including accounts. The only reason they don't is because as long as it's there, there's a chance you will keep paying. It's counter-intuitive to their business to delete accounts for no reason, but that doesn't mean they can't. They could just shut the game down on a whim tomorrow and delete every single account and there's not a damn thing anyone could do about it.

They need a valid reason to delete accounts. They can't just up and Thanos snap them away and say oh well. It doesn't work like that no matter how much you try to justify it. Shut down the game tomorrow do you know how much that would damage the company, their image, not to mention the amount of money investors and Stakeholders have put into it?

[saintminya]

They need a valid reason to delete accounts. They can't just up and Thanos snap them away and say oh well. It doesn't work like that no matter how much you try to justify it. Shut down the game tomorrow do you know how much that would damage the company, their image, not to mention the amount of money investors and Stakeholders have put into it?

Any reason they come up with to delete any account is valid, as we all agree to rent our Blizzard-owned accounts upon accepting the ToS.

[AlmightyGerkin]

Any reason they come up with to delete any account is valid, as we all agree to rent our Blizzard-owned accounts upon accepting the ToS.

So you don't do anything. Play the game within the respectable boundaries and next day your account is gone, nothing left is a valid reason?

[saintminya]

So you don't do anything. Play the game within the respectable boundaries and next day your account is gone, nothing left is a valid reason?

It'd be bullshit yes, but if Blizzard wanted to then any reasoning, or lack of, that they came up with would be valid. They don't even have to provide you with a courtesy email detailing their rationale.

[AlmightyGerkin]

It'd be bullshit yes, but if Blizzard wanted to then any reasoning, or lack of, that they came up with would be valid. They don't even have to provide you with a courtesy email detailing their rationale.

Start deleting accounts start deleting revenue and companies don't like to head that way

[Jazzhands]

They need a valid reason to delete accounts. They can't just up and Thanos snap them away and say oh well. It doesn't work like that no matter how much you try to justify it. Shut down the game tomorrow do you know how much that would damage the company, their image, not to mention the amount of money investors and Stakeholders have put into it?

Just because there are negative consequences, doesn't mean they can't do it. It means they won't do it. They want your business so yes, they want a valid reason to delete your account should it come to that, but that doesn't mean it's illegal for them to delete your account without a valid reason. They can do whatever they want with the assets they own, which includes your account. They absolutely can just burn it all to the ground, the only thing stopping them is money, not some code of honor with the players. They don't even care about their own employees, you think they care about us?

[AlmightyGerkin]

Just because there are negative consequences, doesn't mean they can't do it. It means they won't do it. They want your business so yes, they want a valid reason to delete your account should it come to that, but that doesn't mean it's illegal for them to delete your account without a valid reason. They can do whatever they want with the assets they own, which includes your account. They absolutely can just burn it all to the ground, the only thing stopping them is money, not some code of honor with the players. They don't even care about their own employees, you think they care about us?

Only thing that is stopping any company is money. Not news to anyone. We all knew that don't care about their employees. Goes for a lot of companies. They only say they care about employees to save face.

[Spl4sh3r]

You do. If you have a full party, you get max bonus xp. Starts at 3 players iirc.
The exploi5 might be that the xp does not get split woth the dead ones, but the bonus still applies, just a guess.

Maybe I haven't played for a long while, but since when was that a thing?

[kranur]

Maybe I haven't played for a long while, but since when was that a thing?

Since forever I think. Not sure if it's still a thing on retail though.

https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Formulas:Mob_XP

But truth is, unless you have xp gain enabled in chat, you wouldn't really know (it does state that a party bonus is gained in the logs)

[Orange Joe]

Since forever I think. Not sure if it's still a thing on retail though.

https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Formulas:Mob_XP

But truth is, unless you have xp gain enabled in chat, you wouldn't really know (it does state that a party bonus is gained in the logs)

I'm confused.

Assuming everyone in the group is the same level
XP = MXP/numberOfMembers * modifier. Modifiers:
1 person group = 1.0
2 person group = 1.0
3 person group = 1.166
4 person group = 1.3
5 person group = 1.4
Example:
1 person = 100xp
2 people = 50xp each.
3 people = ~39xp each.
4 people = ~33xp each.
5 people = ~28xp each.
Raid-sized groups dramatically decrease experience gained.

This doesn't match with what you are saying

[kranur]

I'm confused.



This doesn't match with what you are saying

So if the xp of the mob is 100 and you kill it alone ot gives 100 xp. If you kill it while in a party of 5 it gives 28 each or a total of 140, so 40 xp extra in total, because the multiplier is higher.
Now if the 4 other people in the party are dead and don't receive any xp, the person that is alive might receive the full 140. Don't know if it is the case, but if the dude had 4 other peoplr just stay dead around him, I assume it works like this