game would have been 20x better if it launched with RDF.
group finder should be cross server for anything under current content. levling wihtout is is atrociuos. the player pool leveling for old content is so small you will look for days to fill a group. current content i dont mind it at all, but i play a healer and get invited to anything and everything as soon as i que up.
I could understand not putting in the dungeon finder but the group finder from retail is so good. They should have just put that in
Yes.
That's how MMO worlds work. They're at their best when they're living, breathing actual worlds you can immerse yourself in. Dungeons are like going to the bar with your friends after work. You want to run some with your friends? You plan to meet up at 7PM after work so you can meet up at the bar/go bowling/play pool/run some dungeons.
That's how it's kinda structured. Or you can join a group like you have been doing. Sounds fine to me.
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It sounds like you didn't play original Wrath then... Sorry to burst your bubble, but you only played the ICC patch then.
You must have missed all the good stuff like launch and Naxx, Ulduar, and ToC times.
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Uh...?
Are you talking to the person who did the fact correcting? Because I don't think they need to recalculate.
Wrath was released Nov 13th 2008. Patch 3.3.0 when LFD was introduced was December 8th, 2009. Cataclysm launched December 7th 2010.
LFD was not in Wrath for 13 months and was in the game for 12 months. The only reason it was in Wrath for so long was because Cataclysm took longer than expected to come out btw. We were sitting in ICC for an entire 12 months before Cata came out. All of the other content in the expansion minus RS came and went without LFD.
I don't know of any real world activities that involve going to the bar with your friends for a bit every day then also spending 3 hours twice a week on it. Your image of how an MMO world should work seems to exclude anyone who can't build their schedule around the game. What harm does it do you if they put in some features that make it easier for those of us who can't (or more accurately, don't want to) do that?
And yup, I played during ICC patch. Not sure why you think you need to tell me my own history and act like it is bursting my bubble. I was there.
Thinking practically, L80 on healthy realms are having no troubles. The tool and BB addon work well enough; it really just comes down to preference. Leveling 70-80 does seem to be less populated than anticipated, and I think it'd be worthwhile to move past the bitter divide and ask if the alt farm needs support.
It's also pretty inefficient to do dungeons when leveling because it takes so long to get there, and a lot of people just hope that someone else will summon so if you're nice and always go to the stone (like me) you can end up wasting loads of time on it (one time I waited at the stone for a few minutes, no one came, and I just dropped group, it's that bad). Dungeon finder would help solve that problem.
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i play horde. i feel it may all be class and server thing for me. i constantly see peeps spamming looking for a resto shaman. i am one. so i guess my class is in high demand. i also notice when i que into the group finder there is 1-2 healers, 1-2 tanks, followed with 20 dps so it appears there is either a healer shortage on my server or healers arent queing up for it (ie running with friends or guilds).
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70-80 is less populated, imagine being sub 70.....
« I don't understand how people like you think a "proper MMO" is supposed to work when it comes to things like this.»
Exactly what I’m talking about. Yet thousands of lemmings pleaded to blizzard and changed the game this way - because people who don’t understand what a MMO is asked to change a MMO
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“ The players are LITERALLY doing the same thing that an automatic queue would”
Except that a player wouldn’t invite anyone who is on their Badapples list. Wouldn’t invite an AFK slacker who signed up and went to poop for 20 minutes. The list can be continued.
Automatic queue, while being “convenient”, would do all this resulting in you being in a group with 4 other bots - sometimes bots being malfunctionning.
Or have you never seen a LFD tank with ego that big that he immediately states that group does exactly as he says and does not complain, or he just leaves and he does not care at all because his queue is instant and rest or the group would have to wait for 15-30 minutes?
While blizzard refuses to implement global player rating system similar to Badapples addon, this will keep happening
Which i mentioned.
But it's still a stupid workaround for two reasons.you cannot invite another person until you convert it into a raid
First, you can end up with suddenly 6 people within the group, so you have to kick one.
Second, if you forget to turn it back into a party, you're not going to get credit (or items) for any quest, kinda bad when you realize that after you've killed the daily heroic boss.
I'm...okay with that because the pell-mell of people figuring things out is part of an MMO (someone else posted to that effect on this page as well).
Last night, looking closely, the problem wasn't a lack of players but a dearth of tanks not seen at max level. Could be tanks are in guild/friend groups, and that they'd opt into pugs with the convenience of RDF. I'm also not sure if 68-71 is just not a great range for dungeons since a) 72-80 seem happy to run everything available and b) maybe folks just figure they'll blast through Borean and then run the gamut of 5-mans available to them.
I will say, I stepped up and put a run together. Invited a tank then wrangled DPS. Two players in HF were clearly RDF refugees because they took forever to find the entrance into Utgarde yet knew the dungeon itself by heart. All told we wasted about 15 minutes getting in there but unlike a tidy matchmade run, I have a memory. And I do think that experience, as silly as it sounds, is key to Classic.