I think what's fun with raiding is to do things in a large group of people. I prefer shooters like Battlefield with like 64 v 64 over Counter-Strike with 5v5, large numbers make it cool and fun, but challenge is irrelevant. A game in Battlefield where you roll the enemies is far more fun than an even game where you win with like 1 guy margin. I like easy games more than challenges. From the first time I wiped 15+ years ago I hated it, and I hate dying.
Some people need challenges to enjoy things, I don't. There are many other easy games I play, but WoW could be the perfect game and it WAS for a few months, basically from Classic launch in 2019 to the release of AQ40, that period was the best time I had in my life. Chill 40mans without wipes = peak of gaming for me.
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I am dead serious, I never troll. And I HAD dropped this thread, someone bumped it after months of inactivity, I didn't restart this thread, but people started saying "this didn't age well" BUT exactly EVERYTHING I predicted with this thread actually happened.
I predicted wipes and wipes and wipes, and I've had 10 times more wipes than kills in Naxx. I predicted hours every day searching raid, and here I am, still searching raids almost every day without success. I predicted elitistic people demanding achievements and gearscore etc, and voila, they are doing it.
And like I said from the very beginning, I WISHED my predictions would be wrong, but sadly, I was correct in everything
Obviously not everyone had my experience, but I had exactly what I feared I would have, and I'm sure a lot of other people have too, cause in my wipe raids, there are obviously other people who experience the very same thing, but they are not as active on forums etc.