[TV] House of the Dragon

[Fortress of Arrogance]

Emma D'arcy has been nominated "man of the year" by the GQ Magazine.

Heh.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Emma D'arcy has been nominated "man of the year" by the GQ Magazine.

Heh.

As have several other "non-men"

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/men-of...2022-honourees

Here is the full list of MOTY Honourees, with GQ’s eight cover stars set to be announced from 7 November:

Marisa Abela
Sheila Atim
Emma D’Arcy
Es Devlin
Leon Edwards
Mo Farah
Stephen Graham
Myha’la Herrold
Sharon Horgan
Michael Imperioli
David Jonsson
Lee Jung-jae
Harry Lawtey
Louis Theroux
Joseph Quinn
Ashley Walters
Ben Whishaw

[Fortress of Arrogance]

As have several other "non-men"

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/men-of...2022-honourees

Oh.

I see no contradiction or issue there.
At all.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Oh.

I see no contradiction or issue there.
At all.

The point was not to contradict...but to elaborate.

[Jinnobi]

Dragons are, per Martin, about as intelligent as dogs, maybe a bit more. While most dogs are loyal to their masters, it goes only to a point, some never lose their instincts and others can be quite unruly if not brought to hell in the right way.

Vhagar in particular has seen many riders and is very, very old. Bond or not, her not respecting the one who's just the latest in a list of riders makes sense to me. Caraxes only had one other rider, and it has been decades since Daemon was his only master. It makes sense that he would have more hold over him than Aemond over Vhagar.

My personal theory is that the dragons obey whatever magic is in the Valyrian blood that compels them to do so, at least as much as they obey their actual rider. If the rider holds not that much sway over them, only the magic remains and it only works to a point, especially in the heat of the moment when instinct takes over.

One thing that always seemed connected to me is dragons and magic.

When dragons left the world, it would seem most magic left with it.
Dragons return and suddenly Jon Snow and Beric Dondarrion are being rezzed from death.

I've always suspected that the Old Gods were real, and we all know for a fact that the Lord of Light is real. I just don't know what else is real besides. But whatever the case may be, dragons and magic are somehow related IMO.

[Varodoc]

One thing that always seemed connected to me is dragons and magic.

When dragons left the world, it would seem most magic left with it.
Dragons return and suddenly Jon Snow and Beric Dondarrion are being rezzed from death.

I've always suspected that the Old Gods were real, and we all know for a fact that the Lord of Light is real. I just don't know what else is real besides. But whatever the case may be, dragons and magic are somehow related IMO.

All magic in the ASOIAF world is connected. The Valyrians were powerful magic users and the idea that they have "blood of the dragon" might be literal... after all, Rhaenyra's stillborn daughter had dragon features. The Valyrians/Targaryens were clearly doing some magical shenanigans with dragons in Old Valyria.

Dragons returned in GOT around the time of the return of the White Walkers. Dragons and White Walkers are thus linked by the story (a song of ice and fire). For instance, the White Walkers could have attacked at any moment. They could have attacked during Robert's Rebellion. But they only resurfaced during the year of the return of the dragon and the red comet in the sky.

At the end of the show, the White Walkers are (allegedly; as far as we can tell) gone; the Lord of Light is also gone; the Children of the Forest are gone; and only one dragon is left, Drogon. I don't know how dragons reproduce but Drogon might very well be the last dragon in history. It's not a coincidence that all these major magical events happen in the same time period.

And now this show reveals that Aegon the Conqueror knew about the Prince That Was Promised, which is an ancient prophecy dating back to the first Long Night, which was a time when Westeros was literally enveloped by a magical night that never ended. The Prince in the prophecies wielded a magical flaming sword, and so on.

[Jinnobi]

All magic in the ASOIAF world is connected. The Valyrians were powerful magic users and the idea that they have "blood of the dragon" might be literal... after all, Rhaenyra's stillborn daughter had dragon features. The Valyrians/Targaryens were clearly doing some magical shenanigans with dragons in Old Valyria.

Dragons returned in GOT around the time of the return of the White Walkers. Dragons and White Walkers are thus linked by the story (a song of ice and fire). For instance, the White Walkers could have attacked at any moment. They could have attacked during Robert's Rebellion. But they only resurfaced during the year of the return of the dragon and the red comet in the sky.

At the end of the show, the White Walkers are (allegedly; as far as we can tell) gone; the Lord of Light is also gone; the Children of the Forest are gone; and only one dragon is left, Drogon. I don't know how dragons reproduce but Drogon might very well be the last dragon in history. It's not a coincidence that all these major magical events happen in the same time period.

And now this show reveals that Aegon the Conqueror knew about the Prince That Was Promised, which is an ancient prophecy dating back to the first Long Night, which was a time when Westeros was literally enveloped by a magical night that never ended. The Prince in the prophecies wielded a magical flaming sword, and so on.

Agreed. I wasn't sure if Rhaenyra's stillborn child had slightly dragon-esque features, or if I was just imagining it. I guess she really did?

In any case, I hope the Lord of Light really isn't gone by the end of Game of Thrones - especially since that Jon Snow series is apparently in full production mode now. I'd love to see the show explore a little more about Jon's (Aegon's lol) connection with the LoL.

[Syegfryed]

Agreed. I wasn't sure if Rhaenyra's stillborn child had slightly dragon-esque features, or if I was just imagining it. I guess she really did? .

It did in the books, i think they didn't put in the show because of how unsettling it could end up being

[Fortress of Arrogance]

Emma D'arcy has been nominated "man of the year" by the GQ Magazine.

Heh.

Turns out, I was trolling when I shared a perfectly viable piece of news with you lot.

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[Varodoc]

Agreed. I wasn't sure if Rhaenyra's stillborn child had slightly dragon-esque features, or if I was just imagining it. I guess she really did?

Yes. The still for the child had misshapen, dragon-like features:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ckb3ByXq...0-6048379fbf4e

In any case, I hope the Lord of Light really isn't gone by the end of Game of Thrones - especially since that Jon Snow series is apparently in full production mode now. I'd love to see the show explore a little more about Jon's (Aegon's lol) connection with the LoL.

If he'll return, it will be for a "Somehow the Night King returned" twist.

Otherwise, the Lord of Light was influencing the world only to prevent the Long Night. Everything about the Lord of Light, including the prophecy of Prince That Was Promised, was in relation to the Long Night.

Since the screaming 15 years old ninja teen [allegedly/inb4 any twist] destroyed the Night King and prevented the Long Night, the storyline surrounding the Lord of Light and the prophecy is ended.

[VMSmith]

Turns out, I was trolling when I shared a perfectly viable piece of news with you lot.


Literally Harry Fahrenheit: 1984

You were banned for sharing actual real news? That's pretty messed up. Not surprised, though.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

You guys might want to cease with the talk of moderation.

[MCMLXXXII]

I understand the infraction, especially with the accompanying comment that went with it, and the post history of the subject.

[Koriani]

Yes. The still for the child had misshapen, dragon-like features:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ckb3ByXq...0-6048379fbf4e



If he'll return, it will be for a "Somehow the Night King returned" twist.

Otherwise, the Lord of Light was influencing the world only to prevent the Long Night. Everything about the Lord of Light, including the prophecy of Prince That Was Promised, was in relation to the Long Night.

Since the screaming 15 years old ninja teen [allegedly/inb4 any twist] destroyed the Night King and prevented the Long Night, the storyline surrounding the Lord of Light and the prophecy is ended.

Yeah, I've been hearing various 'rumors' here and there, since HoD hit and the "Lord of Light" prophecy started taking a 'main-seat' again in the plot (the King talking about it, making it an 'important point', etc.) that HBO, or the new shows-showrunners (or whomever 'they' are) - are trying to do a little "erase-redo" Of the ending finale of the original GoT series. And that bringing a 'new light' on this prophecy's importance in HoD is an indicator that there might be some rewriting of Westeros media-future going on. Whether that's in Jon's new series, or some other spinoff - or anything 'real' in the future, who knows.

Just feels really 4th-wall-breaking-wierd to me to have the prophecy get mentioned repeatedly in HoD when we know (the viewers on HBO anyway) what a cluster-fuck-non-entity that entire prophecy ended up being to the "TV Westeros" Future timeline. Everytime they start talking about it I just want to go, "No he didn't. No it didn't. Actually, none of this prophecy went anywhere!"

Whether the show-writers included this prophecy just because its how Martin wrote it, or because they are hoping someone might take up the future-torch and change how the 7th season went down in GoT "history" =D, don't know. Just seems an odd creative choice to get behind when in the HBO Timeline that Prophecy Means little to nothing. I"m sure it will matter more to Martin's GoT books if he ever finishes them; but in the "Show related only" Timeline, it would be less disruptive to maybe reword that prophecy so it fits the actual 'fulfillment' that happens in GoT Season 7 =D.

[arlion]

Yeah, I've been hearing various 'rumors' here and there, since HoD hit and the "Lord of Light" prophecy started taking a 'main-seat' again in the plot (the King talking about it, making it an 'important point', etc.) that HBO, or the new shows-showrunners (or whomever 'they' are) - are trying to do a little "erase-redo" Of the ending finale of the original GoT series. And that bringing a 'new light' on this prophecy's importance in HoD is an indicator that there might be some rewriting of Westeros media-future going on. Whether that's in Jon's new series, or some other spinoff - or anything 'real' in the future, who knows.

Just feels really 4th-wall-breaking-wierd to me to have the prophecy get mentioned repeatedly in HoD when we know (the viewers on HBO anyway) what a cluster-fuck-non-entity that entire prophecy ended up being to the "TV Westeros" Future timeline. Everytime they start talking about it I just want to go, "No he didn't. No it didn't. Actually, none of this prophecy went anywhere!"

Whether the show-writers included this prophecy just because its how Martin wrote it, or because they are hoping someone might take up the future-torch and change how the 7th season went down in GoT "history" =D, don't know. Just seems an odd creative choice to get behind when in the HBO Timeline that Prophecy Means little to nothing. I"m sure it will matter more to Martin's GoT books if he ever finishes them; but in the "Show related only" Timeline, it would be less disruptive to maybe reword that prophecy so it fits the actual 'fulfillment' that happens in GoT Season 7 =D.

Maybe they stopped the current long night but the cycle will continue and the others are just regaining strenght; and Snow will be about ending them for good? I mean, Jon was rezzed by the lord of light or whoever because he was meant to do something big before D&D kinda forgot

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Yes. The still for the child had misshapen, dragon-like features:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ckb3ByXq...0-6048379fbf4e



If he'll return, it will be for a "Somehow the Night King returned" twist.

Otherwise, the Lord of Light was influencing the world only to prevent the Long Night. Everything about the Lord of Light, including the prophecy of Prince That Was Promised, was in relation to the Long Night.

Since the screaming 15 years old ninja teen [allegedly/inb4 any twist] destroyed the Night King and prevented the Long Night, the storyline surrounding the Lord of Light and the prophecy is ended.

Mabye I just don’t remember but how does the LoL actually act to stop The long night at all? None of the people he acts though really contribute much to ending the night lord even John did next to nothing.

If any thing it all seemed like a big troll by the Lol to fuck over Danny.

[Twdft]

Mabye I just don’t remember but how does the LoL actually act to stop The long night at all? None of the people he acts though really contribute much to ending the night lord even John did next to nothing.

If any thing it all seemed like a big troll by the Lol to fuck over Danny.

You can't remember it because "A Dream of Spring" isn't released yet

[Varodoc]

Mabye I just don’t remember but how does the LoL actually act to stop The long night at all? None of the people he acts though really contribute much to ending the night lord even John did next to nothing.

If any thing it all seemed like a big troll by the Lol to fuck over Danny.

The Lord of Light brought Jon back to life. Jon might not have dealt the killing blow on the Night King, but he was still the one who gathered the combined host at Winterfell (which was stated to be the largest army ever gathered in history). In addition, he was the one who dismounted the Night King from Viserion, slowing him down significantly and buying enough time for the ninja teen to get to the Godswood before the NK killed Bran.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

The Lord of Light brought Jon back to life. Jon might not have dealt the killing blow on the Night King, but he was still the one who gathered the combined host at Winterfell (which was stated to be the largest army ever gathered in history). In addition, he was the one who dismounted the Night King from Viserion, slowing him down significantly and buying enough time for the ninja teen to get to the Godswood before the NK killed Bran.

Ah I suppose he did take out the dragon didn't he, and technically he is the one who got danny there as well.

Still seems like alot of Lol agents were just kinda fucking around with his power for most of the show not really leading up to that.

[Tziva]

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