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    Appeal?

    You lot are hiding the super mods and other people so amazingly well that it's impossible to appeal infractions.

    Well fucking done, have shitty mods and then make it difficult to get bullshit infractions overturned. It's almost like this is on purpose!
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    Have you thought about how multiple countries in the world celebrate Christmas and multiple countries in the world celebrate New Years on the 30th/1st? Added to the fact the mods are just volunteers and I'm really surprised you were expecting any mods to be around for anything more than cursory glances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    You lot are hiding the super mods and other people so amazingly well that it's impossible to appeal infractions.

    Well fucking done, have shitty mods and then make it difficult to get bullshit infractions overturned. It's almost like this is on purpose!
    Maybe next time you should consider posting in a more productive way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Maybe next time you should consider posting in a more productive way.
    Its about politics not if its constructive or not. Thats been glaringly obvious for a while now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    Its about politics not if its constructive or not. Thats been glaringly obvious for a while now.

    If you are an ultra feminist/lgbtq supporter you can get away with anything on this forum
    Do you even know what the infraction was for?

    Here's a hint...it didn't have anything to do with politics, feminism, or lgbtq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Do you even know what the infraction was for?

    Here's a hint...it didn't have anything to do with politics, feminism, or lgbtq.
    I didnt say it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    You lot are hiding the super mods and other people so amazingly well that it's impossible to appeal infractions.

    Well fucking done, have shitty mods and then make it difficult to get bullshit infractions overturned. It's almost like this is on purpose!
    Hiding? Mate, you even have a Super Moderator with a whole list of people in their signature. It says that @Tziva is currently unavailable but in their signature, you have the names available too. Else, send an appeal through the information attached to your infraction.

    Else, look at https://www.mmo-champion.com/forum.php and fish out a regular moderator from the assigned list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    Its about politics not if its constructive or not. Thats been glaringly obvious for a while now.

    If you are an ultra feminist/lgbtq supporter you can get away with anything on this forum
    Quite sure that is bullshit. Commonly, people know why they are infracted, and if it is an issue, then an appeal shouldn't be an issue either with the information in the infraction message, or find a blue. The OP is a 10+ year member, finding a blue should be simple for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lochton View Post
    Hiding? Mate, you even have a Super Moderator with a whole list of people in their signature. It says that @Tziva is currently unavailable but in their signature, you have the names available too. Else, send an appeal through the information attached to your infraction.

    Else, look at https://www.mmo-champion.com/forum.php and fish out a regular moderator from the assigned list.

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    Quite sure that is bullshit. Commonly, people know why they are infracted, and if it is an issue, then an appeal shouldn't be an issue either with the information in the infraction message, or find a blue. The OP is a 10+ year member, finding a blue should be simple for them.
    Its not - its been proven many - many times. There is a reason most of the infraction reasons are "post constructively" or "dont troll". They are completely subjective viewpoints and attempting to have a reasonable discussion with any moderator on it is impossible. The things i've been called on this site with no repercaussions would never fly in the real world. I know there are many who think like me but once again - even speaking on it is likely to get me banned because one cannot question the allmighty authority on morality that are the mods here. As someone who just dont really give a fuck anymore - having been banned countless times for speaking out against their outright tyranny - i'm gonna speak my mind on the subject each and every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    Its about politics not if its constructive or not. Thats been glaringly obvious for a while now.

    If you are an ultra feminist/lgbtq supporter you can get away with anything on this forum
    lol it took over a week for somebody calling queer people degenerate filth before a mod actually stepped in and stopped it.

    but yes please continue with your conservative victim complex, definitely not something y'all have been bleating on about for 40 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    Its not - its been proven many - many times. There is a reason most of the infraction reasons are "post constructively" or "dont troll". They are completely subjective viewpoints and attempting to have a reasonable discussion with any moderator on it is impossible. The things i've been called on this site with no repercaussions would never fly in the real world. I know there are many who think like me but once again - even speaking on it is likely to get me banned because one cannot question the allmighty authority on morality that are the mods here. As someone who just dont really give a fuck anymore - having been banned countless times for speaking out against their outright tyranny - i'm gonna speak my mind on the subject each and every time.
    Now that is a victim complex if i ever saw one. Tells me most of your infractions were correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    Its not - its been proven many - many times. There is a reason most of the infraction reasons are "post constructively" or "dont troll". They are completely subjective viewpoints and attempting to have a reasonable discussion with any moderator on it is impossible. The things i've been called on this site with no repercaussions would never fly in the real world. I know there are many who think like me but once again - even speaking on it is likely to get me banned because one cannot question the allmighty authority on morality that are the mods here. As someone who just dont really give a fuck anymore - having been banned countless times for speaking out against their outright tyranny - i'm gonna speak my mind on the subject each and every time.
    Tyranny? Fucking EL OH EL! Tell us more how much oppressed you are on a video games forum and how your freedom of speech is trampled, mate. Will you rise against said oppression?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    Its not - its been proven many - many times. There is a reason most of the infraction reasons are "post constructively" or "dont troll". They are completely subjective viewpoints and attempting to have a reasonable discussion with any moderator on it is impossible. The things i've been called on this site with no repercaussions would never fly in the real world. I know there are many who think like me but once again - even speaking on it is likely to get me banned because one cannot question the allmighty authority on morality that are the mods here. As someone who just dont really give a fuck anymore - having been banned countless times for speaking out against their outright tyranny - i'm gonna speak my mind on the subject each and every time.
    It hasn't. And you have objectively trolled.

    Trolling isn't subjective, it is objective. Posts for the purpose of encouraging others to flame you. There is no subjectivity in that type of decision.

    As for constructive posts, those are objective too. Like neither thing you listed as "subjective" actually is subjective. If you post something that adds nothing to the conversation, it isn't a constructive post.

    These are both outlined in the rules you agreed to when you made your account. They are objective, not subjective, per the rules of the forum. It is like arguing you weren't speeding because the you went faster than the speed limit because the speed limit to you is subjective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XDurionX View Post
    Now that is a victim complex if i ever saw one. Tells me most of your infractions were correct.
    Your hot takes are irrelevant to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Tyranny? Fucking EL OH EL! Tell us more how much oppressed you are on a video games forum and how your freedom of speech is trampled, mate. Will you rise against said oppression?
    This isnt a democracy. I have no power - i have no means of rising against anything. If i could i would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darththeo View Post
    It hasn't. And you have objectively trolled.

    Trolling isn't subjective, it is objective. Posts for the purpose of encouraging others to flame you. There is no subjectivity in that type of decision.

    As for constructive posts, those are objective too. Like neither thing you listed as "subjective" actually is subjective. If you post something that adds nothing to the conversation, it isn't a constructive post.

    These are both outlined in the rules you agreed to when you made your account. They are objective, not subjective, per the rules of the forum. It is like arguing you weren't speeding because the you went faster than the speed limit because the speed limit to you is subjective.
    Interestingly that is literally a discussion i had with mods a few years ago. They however felt differently - and i can actually quote some of them saying it is subjective in pm's to me. And that its not a very fitting title but its one used as a general "we dont like this post" infraciton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlette View Post
    lol it took over a week for somebody calling queer people degenerate filth before a mod actually stepped in and stopped it.

    but yes please continue with your conservative victim complex, definitely not something y'all have been bleating on about for 40 years.
    Where? Got a link? Also i'm probably the adverse of conservative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    This isnt a democracy. I have no power - i have no means of rising against anything. If i could i would.
    Sure, bud. You would lead the charge onto the barricades!

    You are SO confused. You are a guest here, on this gaming forum, just like we all are. It is not your right to be here, you are not entitled to anything and have to obey the rules you agreed to when you created the account. And no, your freedoms of speech are not violated, becasue you had none in the first place. Every forum/Reddit/comment section has rules you should follow, else you get punished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    Its not - its been proven many - many times. There is a reason most of the infraction reasons are "post constructively" or "dont troll".
    Yes, because many infractions are people trolling or not knowing how to post constructively.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    They are completely subjective viewpoints and attempting to have a reasonable discussion with any moderator on it is impossible.
    All infractions I have seen are running by the list of rules offered. I have even seen many comments that I would have infract if I was a moderator still but they weren't by the team.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    The things i've been called on this site with no repercaussions would never fly in the real world.
    Like what kind of things? As well, were they reported? I am quite certain most of your valid examples have an infraction and if not, then it is because they weren't reported.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    I know there are many who think like me but once again - even speaking on it is likely to get me banned because one cannot question the allmighty authority on morality that are the mods here.
    You can discuss actions taken to your account with a moderator. Discussing them on the forum does NOT help you, nor the forum, hence the rule of no discussion about moderation actions.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    As someone who just dont really give a fuck anymore - having been banned countless times for speaking out against their outright tyranny - i'm gonna speak my mind on the subject each and every time.
    Tyranny? Now, that is a joke. There is no tyranny here. You are here at your own wish and want. This is not a public institution or location, thus "freedom of speech" is not served here due to the fact that the rule of it only protects against the government upon public soil, and not private domains.

    People who get infracted know why they get infracted, and if there is a problem, then they also know where to appeal it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    Your hot takes are irrelevant to me.
    Oh they're pretty relevant, you might learn from it or keep getting infracted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    You lot are hiding the super mods and other people so amazingly well that it's impossible to appeal infractions.

    Well fucking done, have shitty mods and then make it difficult to get bullshit infractions overturned. It's almost like this is on purpose!
    Imagine getting this worked up over *this* forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    Its about politics not if its constructive or not. Thats been glaringly obvious for a while now.

    If you are an ultra feminist/lgbtq supporter you can get away with anything on this forum
    Pretty much this yeh... But what do you expect? Most mods(even most people who live their lives on forums/internet) identify with them so of course you'll find them to be extremely biased.
    On top of this? I'm sure this very very dead forum is scared of cancel culture making them pander to them even more...

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    There's a process in place. I've made appeals before, and yes, it sometimes took a few days...maybe even a week (holidays) before a review. (In the interest of honesty, I know when I've been a bad boy so I accept the infraction far more than not)

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