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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoCarlos View Post
    Contain it some other way rather than igniting it and causing cancer causing smog for god knows how far a radius which can also turn into acid rain and effect water supply which can travel even further.

    America seriously seems pretty third world
    You are the expert. What other way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    You are the expert. What other way?
    I never claimed to be an expert Mr forum detective I'll leave that to the politicians
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoCarlos View Post
    I never claimed to be an expert Mr forum detective I'll leave that to the politicians
    But you know there is a better way? Mind you. I'm not saying there isn't, but so far no real expert has come out and said otherwise have they? You would think if what you said was possible someone would have been in the news already blaming one side or the other for doing it wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    But you know there is a better way? Mind you. I'm not saying there isn't, but so far no real expert has come out and said otherwise have they? You would think if what you said was possible someone would have been in the news already blaming one side or the other for doing it wrong.
    At this point in the disaster the railroad would have gone through nearly all their options to minimize the cost of the cleanup. Remember they're after profits after all and they're going to want to pay as little as possible to the populace of East Palestine. They don't have anyone else to blame but their own negligence in this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    That Trump visit just illustrates how easy it is to fool the masses. Now the discussion is which politician showed up to East Palestine for a photo op first, not how to hold large corporations accountable when they poison thousands of Americans.
    He didn't do shit but it shows how easy it is to do the bare minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    id like to see someone dig up the facebook history on some of these east palestine residents and see how many of them had racist comments to say during the flint water crisis

    Why would that matter besides making some people move past their old ways, which is a good thing.


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    Amazing disgusting WP name an American town over something they deny exists in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    Amazing disgusting WP name an American town over something they deny exists in the first place.
    2/10 try harder next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    2/10 try harder next time.
    Statistic belie your own denial



    Americans are uniformly racist against Middle Eastern people. Especially when it doesn't suit their personal agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    Statistic belie your own denial

    Americans are uniformly racist against Middle Eastern people. Especially when it doesn't suit their personal agenda.
    Are you suggesting they named their own city after a place they vehemently disliked at the time? I guess that's an option, sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    Statistic belie your own denial



    Americans are uniformly racist against Middle Eastern people. Especially when it doesn't suit their personal agenda.
    East Palestine was named that in 1875, before the modern incarnations of Israel or the Palestinian Authority were even a thing. You talk about other people's personal agenda, but there's little chance you weren't aware of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    You are the expert. What other way?
    Emergency management training generally has counter-chemicals to absorb and/or neutralise hazardous materials. Of course, that is often more complicated in practice: X amount of pollutant is neutralised by Y amount of absorbent in chemical equations, but spills often necessitate removing and replacing the topsoil in the affected area.

    I have great expectations of research into bioremediation using fungi or microbes, but that is the long-term plan.

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    This reminds me of that movie The Rock, everything is fixed if u blow it up, I mean "vaporize"...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    I have great expectations of research into bioremediation using fungi or microbes, but that is the long-term plan.
    no fungi! NO FUNGI!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Emergency management training generally has counter-chemicals to absorb and/or neutralise hazardous materials. Of course, that is often more complicated in practice: X amount of pollutant is neutralised by Y amount of absorbent in chemical equations, but spills often necessitate removing and replacing the topsoil in the affected area.

    I have great expectations of research into bioremediation using fungi or microbes, but that is the long-term plan.
    You mean like the company shipping the contaminated topsoil and water to Michigan and Texas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    no fungi! NO FUNGI!!!
    Looking forward to the reasoning against the use of fungi in bioremediation.

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    I'm... surprised, but I know I shouldn't be. Your EPA needs claws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Looking forward to the reasoning against the use of fungi in bioremediation.
    One of the top shows in in the US based on the game The Last Of Us, the world was fucked up by fungus.

    Also, that's how you could get Orks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    John Oliver Roasts Fox News Hosts For Questioning Why Julia Roberts Wasn’t At Train Derailment Site Like Erin Brockovich

    However, over on Fox News, Jesse Watters and Rachel Campos-Duffy asked why some personalities had not visited the site in East Palestine.

    “Think about the environmental activists and corporate America, they weren’t there,” Campos-Duffy said on Fox & Friends Weekend.

    Watters added that Brockovich was actually paying a visit to East Palestine with Campos-Duffy asking, “But where is Julia Roberts?”

    Oliver’s reaction to the Fox News segment left him confused and asking what they were talking about before educating the television personalities on Roberts’s profession.

    “You realize Julia Roberts is an actor, right? She was pretending, she’s not actually Erin Brockovich,” Oliver quipped.

    He then added, “Also, I can’t believe I’m the one that has to break this to you… She didn’t actually ruin her best friend’s wedding (My Best Friend’s Wedding), she’s not a sex worker (Pretty Woman) and she did not die in a small Louisiana town in 1989 (Steel Magnolias). What the f*** is wrong with you?”

    Oliver didn’t stop roasting conservative media personalities there. In the next segment, he showcased Ben Shapiro, Candace Owens, and Stephen Bannon upset that James O’Keefe was ousted from Project Veritas, an activist group that targets democrats, liberals and the media.

    Bannon called O’Keefe a national treasure but Oliver disagreed adding, “The only national treasures in this country are Dolly Parton, Pedro Pascal and Cocaine Bear. And I’ll say what we’re all thinking – threesome, when?”


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    I went from shaking my head to chuckling on that last bit.

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    I prefer to listen to science in these matters, not pop culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    I prefer to listen to science in these matters, not pop culture.
    Pfffft, science does nothing for people trying manufacture online clout.
    But let me tell you about conspirarcy theories, mixed with cultural greivances, served over a broken and unregulated social media!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Emergency management training generally has counter-chemicals to absorb and/or neutralise hazardous materials. Of course, that is often more complicated in practice: X amount of pollutant is neutralised by Y amount of absorbent in chemical equations, but spills often necessitate removing and replacing the topsoil in the affected area.

    I have great expectations of research into bioremediation using fungi or microbes, but that is the long-term plan.
    Right, but the issue was the contents were ready to explode (so they say) it wasn't so much as contain as preventing a worse situation. Since he made the comment.

    Contain it some other way rather than igniting it and causing cancer causing smog for god
    Since @RobertoCarlos is such a expert I want to know what way was better to prevent an explosion.



    Side note this isn't me defending the RR they should be held fully responsible for this accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Looking forward to the reasoning against the use of fungi in bioremediation.

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    I'm... surprised, but I know I shouldn't be. Your EPA needs claws.
    While I wish they had more they did stop shipments shortly after that article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Watters added that Brockovich was actually paying a visit to East Palestine with Campos-Duffy asking, “But where is Julia Roberts?”
    I'm sure there's "It was just a joke!" already given as an excuse for that non-joke but like...this continues to support my theory that conservatives struggle to differentiate between fiction and reality and continues to explain a lot.

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