I'm thinking one of the Incarnates will swap sides, or at least give up on the rest. My bet is on Vyranoth.
She seems chill.
Honestly I don't think so tbh. She was just the disc 1 end boss, not really a character, just something to move along the plot.
It's all very simple and uncomplicated, which is what WoW needs right now.
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anyway, wouldn't want it just because it reeks of weakness of their cause, and i like reasonably confident enemies more. and we just had a redemption story for a female character on the baddie side last expansion. but this makes your case only more probable.
IDK I feel like this story is as complicated as it gets and it seems like Danuser has put the brakes on and people will copium with the "void stuff".
Iridikron is definitely just fucking over the other Incarnates at some point once he becomes Galakrond 2.0 though.
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Alexstrasza already stated that the Incarnates are mostly fighting due to sunk cost fallacy, and that Iridikron is the only one truly commited to fighting. Fyrakk and Vyranoth just want to fly around doing cool dragon shit.
Their cause is already on shaky ground, what with their only argument being that they want to rule the world and/or give the middle finger to the Titans.
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Rasz made sense. The youngest of the incarnates and thus the most rash and uncalculable of them all. Like a teenager if you will. Iri even mentions it in the video. It does make sense. Tho I still wonder why she was locked alone, away from the other 3. Hopefully that gets explained at some point.
I can see Fyrakk being the end boss of this patch. Iridikron will definately be a boss later on. I'm not sure about Vyranoth. Will she also get a separate raid? Maybe a miniraid?But thats not on the roadmap. Maybe she's the last boss of the mega dungeon. Maybe she will swap sides. Lots of options there. Whatever the case, still betting on 10.2 Iridikron and 10.3 Murozond.
Icy what you did there. Do people really think that? It's a slender female shape with light-blue 'skin', that's where the comparison ends for me.
Vyranoth's face is way more gaunt, or rather inhumanly triangular, reminding me rather of the Spriggans.
I'd file it under convergent design. It feels rather like an innate draconic ability, but requiring some mastery, explaining why most proto-drakes we met so far couldn't do it and/or didn't bother since they were hostile anyway.
You could say that the powerup the Aspects and their flights received helped, but shapeshifting is rather Nature than Order.
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that's a pretty strong argument, imo. i'll reiterate: for me, their likeability grows with their conviction.Their cause is already on shaky ground, what with their only argument being that they want to rule the world and/or give the middle finger to the Titans.
It mentioned in the post raid cinematic when you return to Alexstrasza with the raid quest. She specifically states that Fyrakk and Vyranoth are commited, but only in the sense that they want to be cool dragons and not servants of the Titans. Iridikron is the one singled out as the one wanting a continuation of the war, and who made bargains with nebulous evil entities in order to keep it going. Not wanting to accept defeat.
As for their cause I would say that is a separate issue from their conviction. Their cause is pretty weak, but they clearly want to go through with it, with Iridikron being the main driving force behind the war between them and the Aspects.
Iridikron clearly has a strong conviction, no matter how weak his cause really is. And Fyrakk and Vyranoth are definitely onboard, question just being whether they are so dedicated they are unwilling to accept compromise.
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Was either him or Alexstrasza, been a while since I saw the cinematic.
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One of the interviews mentions that Aberrus includes "the chamber where Neltharion communed with the Old Gods", I can see that being the real reason Iridkron is interested. That or the control gauntlet, which has a model in the files and hasn't appeared yet.
rewatched it. the key phrase there isn't that he was the driving force behind the war, but rather "they never knew the depths of his depravity". that implies they will find out about his deal with the Void and defect - and that's probably what's going to happen, but it's still dull as shit.
the other route is them all embracing the Void to preserve their independence from the Order, and even better if it further reframes the narrative of the Order-Void conflict, showing the former as tyrannical and the latter as liberating. Uldaman letters point in that direction, but i still think it's improbable
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It's pretty obvious that all this focus on the secrets behind Neltharion's dark bargain with the Old Gods is set-up for the inevitable resurgence of the Old Gods in the next expansion.
The Dracythyr gauntlet that Neltharion used in the past will for sure be a plot device in the coming patches. I will be willing to bet that Iridikron or Murozond (once he enters the story) will be aiming for it.
My person bet it will be Murozond due to Nozdormu's incessant ranting about how the Dracthyr's future is "unwritten" and what they choose for their future will be the deciding factor in it all, blah blah blah. *If* we do get a Nozdormu becoming Murozond in this expansion, him going after the Dracthyr would make perfect sense.
I do think it's rather necessary tho, I don't think we can end this expansion just by exterminating the Primalists. If they are just bad guys that we defeat and are done with, it really is like any other baddie we have had.
The best resolution would be for all dragonkind to find some sort of truce if not peace in order to move forward, and for that I think at least one of the Incarnates has to live.
Doesn't even have to be a redemption story really, but about finding a common ground to avoid mutual annihilation.
After a night of sleep, my personal oppinion:
- Tier sets look mostly good, I really love the Alex and Kaleg cosplays for priest and mage!
- HD Ashkandi!
- Whoever was adamant that we wouldn't get any Cata dungeons for M+ - looks like you lost. Can't wait for Troll Dungeons, Deadmines or other nuggets in the future!
- The new upgrade system looks weirdly convoluted, but maybe it will make more sense in practise. It's also good that they arleady say if people like/dislike, they will keep or remove/change it again.
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