Wouldn't be easier if they found out a way to punish people that buy stuff from said bots?
Wouldn't be easier if they found out a way to punish people that buy stuff from said bots?
Nah man. I work in software. And intern could write a script in 1, 2 days max that could easily detect anyone botting. And if a real programmer was given a week on the problem, you could have a deep learning AI easily detect bots. Truth is, Blizz is in bed with bots. Can't think of any other reason why they would let it go unless they are getting a cut.
Imagine you bought a really nice restaurant. And you work you ass off, 90 hours a week, running it. Then some guy starts selling drugs in a booth. Every day. Same booth. Same guy. Same customers. Same drugs. There's a line out the door for him. He needs to setup shelves on the dinning table to show of his merch. He's there from open to close. Your normal, regular customers are disgusted and furious.
So let the guy keep selling drugs in your restaurant?
Last edited by liyroot; 2023-03-16 at 03:11 PM.
Well Blizzard is getting a cut through subs from bots at the minimum, so theres that. Your normal disgusted customers are still coming in and buying tons of food despite complaining about the dealer and his booth, the druggies are also there eating food and paying for it on top of the drugs. Your waiter comes in around the booth once in a while telling the dude to go away to appease the other customers. One big happy family.
It's interesting. They banned 120k bots. A minute later 120k new "players" sub. They either like bots or they are the most ineffectual game devs of all time. Do a /who in Botanica and you will see nothing has changed at all.
Blizz is so blatantly ignoring bots. Gold farmers has invented a way to turn everything in the game into a cash shop item. That's the absolute dream for the money guys internally at Blizz. I just can't imagine why they would let Chinese farmers make hundreds of millions while also using the full power of their legal army to go after little private servers who make $0.
Lol I literally did /who Botanica a minute ago and came to the forum here to see if anyone else have done it or so. But yup, the bots are back at in botanica... They beat the system and I doubt they'll do anything for another proper half year... Tons of bots there still... its 5 am on a thursday night/friday morning here, and over 50 hits on DKs in botanica..
I mean if that was the case why is botting such a prominent problem in so many other games other than wow?
Most MMOs have a bot problem wow's only so pronounced because its one of the bigger MMOs out there (like Fuck Lost Arc is apparently insane)
So if larger companies like EA Bethesda and Square Enix have bot problems that can be easily solved by an intern ...what's up?
Last edited by Mysterymask; 2023-03-17 at 06:39 AM.
Got some bad news for you, spend some time watching the battle.net launcher and associated processes like agent with a resource monitor/task manager. You're going to find it at the very least maps the entire drive that WoW is installed on, plus any other drive that has a title on it of theirs. Could be wrong in that's why it's accessing them all, but unless you have a better reason for them systematically going through your directory tree and each file in it I'm going to go with that no, they aren't just looking at memory spaces. And before someone goes, oh they're just looking at their files to check if they need updates, note I said they map the ENTIRE drive including things like steam games, and anything else on that drive.
That's a good point. Too bad there are no numbers to look at here.
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So let's look. Take the Botanica. The bots are wall clipping. That's cheating & against ToS. So you just watch some of the bots. The botting system they are using is a bunch of software, but the core of it looks like it's a hardcoded path. So you could run a script on the backend that looks at anyone who is in the botanica alone, not taking damage, and collecting [insert item]. Put them in a list and then log their X,Y,Z positions. You could just snapshot them every 30 seconds or 1 min. After a day or 2 or a week, w/e you want, if you take those XYZ's, see who is wall clipping and add all the people on the *potential bot* list.
If they are all doing almost the exact behaviour you slap them with a ToS violation and give them a 1 hour ban or something. Then you check who fights back on that. Anyone who appeals gets instantly unbanned. Run the most simple bot-hunting script that I just thought of in 5 mins again. Apply exponentially longer bans on repeat violators.
Buying gold is also against ToS. You could say, "In order to fight botting and maintain the original classic wow experience for our players, trading gold is now locked to 5000 gold per week, account wide".
Idk, you could do something..
Because the problem is 3 fold
1. There is a demand for bots as much as people hate them the demand for what bots do is there and high enough to justify doing it in the first place. Either because people are lazy and don't wanna grind or they just want to buy gold.
2. There is no alternative to buying gold. The token isn't perfect but it DEFINTELY put a dent in a lot of the botting in Retail with the upside that players who farm gold can trade it for game time and essentially play for free.
3. Like most viruses and other nefarious things the botting market moves faster than the anti-bot market. Its not feasible to have someone watch every single server/shard/phase/region to find bots and as been shown they make accounts faster than Blizz can ban them and any way to stop this would be borderline Draconian.
The only thing you proved is less people raid in retail than there is in classic? And neither of those account for bots and and stuff
We already know a ton of people who play retail these days barely touch the raid thanks to M+, much more complicated raids and folks just not wanting to deal with the requirements to actually raid meanwhile the classic audience goes back for the nostalgia and the older raids are part of that
Last edited by Mysterymask; 2023-03-20 at 11:47 PM.
I never said they were 100% evidence.
But there is approximately 0.000001% chance that a level 80 DK named Wkfhsbwjd who is not in a guild and spends 22 hours a day in maraudon, is a real player
I never said to just insta-ban anyone who fits those descriptions. The actual process is to FLAG those accounts for further review, and depending on how many flags the player/account put up, decide on how closely to inspect from there.
lmao
not even close
Last edited by anon5123; 2023-03-21 at 05:06 PM.