One of the MU Mag'har in the Kosharg states that she's the last Mag'har of the Shadowmoon clan. Similarly, Lantressor of the Blade states that there's very few Burning Blade orcs, and as the supposed leader of the clan, it should "wither and die".
Obviously, these things can't happen with the existence of the AU clans, so either someone at Blizzard forgot about the AU Mag'har (which I heavily doubt considering the deep cuts in this questline) or they want to keep them seperate.
Granted, it's hard to keep them seperate in name considering Blizzard chose to call them Mag'har instead of something like "Ironbound". I could see maybe the outlands Mag'har changing their name, though I doubt it.
I really want a full list of all the possible interactions in the orc questline, apparently Ariok has something different to say if you did WoD. Same with Saurfang and the loyalist/honorable branching questlines.
I can't really agree—I think the two have a fairly distinct culture. Whereas the Orcs of Durotar are all too familiar with extreme destruction and have been made averse to it due to recent events (for the third time, of course), and seem disillusioned with extreme industrialization and expansionism, the Mag'har have seemingly taken no such lessons to heart. They, unlike the Orcs of Durotar, have no interest in disavowing their history—and this certainly isn't helped by the fact they've had thirty whole years to reshape their culture around Garrosh's legacy. Their society is far more industrialized, far more militant, and far more unrepentant, than the Orcs of Durotar, so I could see a cultural schism between the two.
The best parts was going back to old zones. It was worth the romp and yes I did want more but thats pretty typical response from me. If anything I kinda wished the Defias at least acknowledged Varian wasn't really that bad(Cause Varian wasn't written to face the Nobles but I think thats more on, its not the story the devs wanted to tell).
Least it wasn't one sided or "Alliance bad"
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Today on random unexpected lore, the Niffen are apparently related to Grummels?
https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1638689468075974660
Hrm, that's fair—still, they seem to at least have something of a sustainable population, and WoW tends to play fast and loose (as you've lampshaded) with population numbers anyway. However, you are right that there's a fairly small population shown at the end of the quest proper, but that could just be taken as abstraction.
I think, solely in the interest of benefiting the story, the Mag'har are fine to inflate insofar as they maintain a consistent character and are used to their fullest potential.
Honestly I found the way that scenario ended utterly ridiculous. The portal apparently stays up long enough for not just every clan to send people over but even random Botani and Saberon to hop in while in the middle of a battlefield yet the Lightforged did not get through even though they absolutely dominated the battlefield on the other side (which would have set up a great plot hook but alas). Meanwhile we are told the portal will barely stay up for us to go in and out and we barely make it.
Imagine if Garrosh Lightscream had gone through and that's how we got the Light Crusade future expac; he meets Liadrin's adopted daughter, they assault the Caverns of Time and find a way to wibbly wobbly timey wimey connect AU Draenor with MU Outland.
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Could be that they're some kind of missing link between the two. It wouldn't be out-of-character to retcon in the existence of a missing link between Troggs and the fleshcrafted Grummles. Alternatively, they could just be Grummles that found themselves in the Dragon Isles and mutated underground. They were messengers, after all, and the Mogu are Titan constructs that may have tried (in vain) to contact the Dragon Aspects.
I wouldn't put it past blizzard to one day do such an expansion. But I think that for the community to embrace it fully we would need a tv show or another video game telling us the story of AU Draenor and their light crusade.
But would the community want to watch a show about AU Draenor characters that we have abandoned ten years ago? I know I would, but will someone that hasn't touch the game yet would?
unnecessary. we were already told that the AU Draenor was dying during the wars of conversion, and that the Mother of Light was there. supposedly, they then have a reason to get off the moribund world and the means to do so: the naaru spaceships.
Exarch Hellscream is a must, ofc.
btw, anyone got a good name for the Light expac? the Burning Crusade is taken =/
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Aggra says something like "You are everything an Orc should be", and I immediately thought that this would sound weird on a Warlock
Considering her influence launched basically all internal conflicts of Stormwind, not too surprising. But from what I read (haven't played it yet) it revolves rather around a noble using an amulet containing a bit of her magic, and Defias members who don't want solutions, they want to be mad. Essentially, humans who can't let go of the past.
Well, yes, it would only be surprising if Anduin HADN'T initiated reparations when he became King. Maybe not immediately during the Legion's invasion, but definitely after that.
Yes, we should've learned about this earlier, but learning this now doesn’t make this a retroactive change ("retcon")
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