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    New Pre Built to replace 9 year old previous Pre Built

    Looking for opinions.
    Price is £2499 and site is saying that i would also be saving £400 at this price.
    Last computer has lasted me 9 years, so splashing out, hopefully this will last me another 9 Years.
    Thanks for any advice.



    Processor:

    AMD Ryzen 7 7700X (8 Cores up to 5.4GHz, 32MB Cache)

    Memory:

    Corsair DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 DRAM 5200MHz C40 Memory Kit - Black

    Hard Drive:

    Seagate 1TB FireCuda 520 Gen4 M.2 NVMe &

    GPU:

    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 *

    Power Supply:

    ASUS ROG THOR 1000W PLATINUM 2

    Motherboard:

    MSI PRO X670-P WIFI

    Cooling:

    Corsair iCUE H100i Elite Capellix Liquid Cooler

    WiFi:

    On-board WiFi

    Operating System:

    Windows 11 Home Advanced

    Case:

    Meshify 2 lite rgb light tint - Black

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    Intel Core i5-13600K is going to give you more bang for your buck and its about 30$ cheaper atm on newegg. Fractal torrent compact is a cheaper better (objectively) case option. The PSU is overkill imo, id rather put the money towards a better processor.

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    From whom are you looking at this prebuilt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nutjob View Post
    Operating System:

    Windows 11 Home Advanced
    Is "Advanced" similar to the multi-core editions? What is this?

    Quote Originally Posted by cerebro View Post
    Intel Core i5-13600K is going to give you more bang for your buck and its about 30$ cheaper atm on newegg. Fractal torrent compact is a cheaper better (objectively) case option. The PSU is overkill imo, id rather put the money towards a better processor.
    They are buying a prebuilt system.

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    Is "Advanced" similar to the multi-core editions? What is this?

    This is from Ebuyer.com and the people who do the Pre Built are called AlphaSync

    Link http://www.ebuyer.com/store/Computer...rand=AlphaSync

    Don't know what "Advanced" means but will check it out and get back to you.

    Edit sorry crap at copy and pasting.

    Edit Still not sure when it comes to the "advanced" bit but came across this....."I actually called customer services regarding this - and their is no difference between Win10 Home and Win10 Home Advanced. Advanced, as you said, is just optimised to give you the best out of higher end CPUs and chipsets"
    Hopefully it was the same deal with windows 11.
    Last edited by Nutjob; 2023-03-27 at 10:42 PM.

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    Building PCs has come a long way in recent years. It's VERY easy now - everything is basically Legos, you just click stuff together. You usually don't even need tools anymore, it's all just brackets and clamps.

    Prebuilts will fleece you like there's no tomorrow. Not only are they considerably more expensive (I've seen +50-75% on price before) but they also often "smuggle in" second-rate components that aren't otherwise selling, simply by not giving people a choice or not telling them specifics. Who manufactured your GPU for example can be a pretty significant difference.

    If you're spending that much money I'd strongly consider buying components separately and assembling them. If you don't feel confident assembling them yourself, look around your local area - very often there will be shops or freelance techs who will offer assembly services. You can pay them 50 quid or whatever and they'll put your components together for you in the proper way. That'll still save you massive amounts of money over some prebuild company, and will usually leave you with better-quality components, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biomega View Post
    Building PCs has come a long way in recent years. It's VERY easy now - everything is basically Legos, you just click stuff together. You usually don't even need tools anymore, it's all just brackets and clamps.

    Prebuilts will fleece you like there's no tomorrow. Not only are they considerably more expensive (I've seen +50-75% on price before) but they also often "smuggle in" second-rate components that aren't otherwise selling, simply by not giving people a choice or not telling them specifics. Who manufactured your GPU for example can be a pretty significant difference.

    If you're spending that much money I'd strongly consider buying components separately and assembling them. If you don't feel confident assembling them yourself, look around your local area - very often there will be shops or freelance techs who will offer assembly services. You can pay them 50 quid or whatever and they'll put your components together for you in the proper way. That'll still save you massive amounts of money over some prebuild company, and will usually leave you with better-quality components, too.
    Have assembled a system one time, did not go well. Admittedly more than a few years ago, was living in hope that i found something but maybe not. I know it would be cheaper building it myself and have checked out a couple youtubes saying how. Thanks though.
    Edit thanks for the heads up, about buying the parts and finding a local computer shop.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by cerebro View Post
    Intel Core i5-13600K is going to give you more bang for your buck and its about 30$ cheaper atm on newegg. Fractal torrent compact is a cheaper better (objectively) case option. The PSU is overkill imo, id rather put the money towards a better processor.
    I did reply to you but messed up sorry and did find another set up with a Intel Core i5-13600K which was cheaper and did not have overkill PSU but not sure the case that came with the cheaper Pre Built would be any better. Thanks though.
    Last edited by Nutjob; 2023-03-27 at 09:59 PM.

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    It's not a bad price for a pre-built considering the individual parts would set you back around £2.5k. However I think the choice of RAM is a poor pairing for a 7700x ideally you want DDR5-6000 for Zen 4 (the lower the CL the better) and I agree with cerebro that the PSU is overkill for this build.

    But with that said it is a decent system.

    Out of interest what monitor will you be using it with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    It's not a bad price for a pre-built considering the individual parts would set you back around £2.5k. However I think the choice of RAM is a poor pairing for a 7700x ideally you want DDR5-6000 for Zen 4 (the lower the CL the better) and I agree with cerebro that the PSU is overkill for this build.

    But with that said it is a decent system.

    Out of interest what monitor will you be using it with?
    Thanks for that, as far as the monitor goes will eventually get a new one, but will still use a nine year old HANNS.G monitor with a broken "off" switch and a permanently smudged screen that refuses to be cleaned.
    Last edited by Nutjob; 2023-03-27 at 10:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutjob View Post
    Thanks for that, as far as the monitor goes will eventually get a new one, but will still use a nine year old HANNS.G monitor with a broken off switch and a permanently smudged screen that refuses to be cleaned in the mean time.
    Given the age of your monitor I assume it is a 1080p 60Hz model and to be honest the linked system (despite its capabilities) will give similar performance to one that costs a quarter of the price at this resolution.

    I cannot stress enough if you are going to buy this system also buy a 27 inch 1440p 165hz or better monitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    Given the age of your monitor I assume it is a 1080p 60Hz model and to be honest the linked system (despite its capabilities) will give similar performance to one that costs a quarter of the price at this resolution.

    I cannot stress enough if you are going to buy this system also buy a 27 inch 1440p 165hz or better monitor.
    No worries, will definitely be looking for a new monitor and have copy and pasted your suggestion with a a few of the other posters suggestions as well.
    I might just buy the parts and look for "shops or freelance techs who will offer assembly services" will check that out.

    Thanks again.

    Intel Core i5-13600K
    Fractal torrent compact case
    DDR5-6000 for Zen 4 (the lower the CL the better)
    27 inch 1440p 165hz or better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutjob View Post
    Thanks for that, as far as the monitor goes will eventually get a new one, but will still use a nine year old HANNS.G monitor with a broken "off" switch and a permanently smudged screen that refuses to be cleaned.
    What's the point of spending so much money if it's to use on a crappy screen ? The monitor is literally by what you experience your PC, it should be your most important purchase not an afterthought...
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    nazi is not the abbreviation of national socialism....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biomega View Post
    Building PCs has come a long way in recent years. It's VERY easy now - everything is basically Legos, you just click stuff together. You usually don't even need tools anymore, it's all just brackets and clamps.

    Prebuilts will fleece you like there's no tomorrow. Not only are they considerably more expensive (I've seen +50-75% on price before) but they also often "smuggle in" second-rate components that aren't otherwise selling, simply by not giving people a choice or not telling them specifics. Who manufactured your GPU for example can be a pretty significant difference.

    If you're spending that much money I'd strongly consider buying components separately and assembling them. If you don't feel confident assembling them yourself, look around your local area - very often there will be shops or freelance techs who will offer assembly services. You can pay them 50 quid or whatever and they'll put your components together for you in the proper way. That'll still save you massive amounts of money over some prebuild company, and will usually leave you with better-quality components, too.
    This is huge.

    Prebuilt with a 4080/i7 13700K and 32GB of ram sounds nice at a price tag of $1600 but then you see your GPU is Zotac, Motherboard is from Asrock and ram is some Japanese brand - easy pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laqweeta View Post
    Zotac, Motherboard is from Asrock and ram is some Japanese brand - easy pass.
    .....

    .......

    .........

    AsRock is fine.... Zotac is fine...

    what the hell are you even on about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutjob View Post
    Looking for opinions.
    Price is £2499 and site is saying that i would also be saving £400 at this price.
    Last computer has lasted me 9 years, so splashing out, hopefully this will last me another 9 Years.
    Thanks for any advice.



    Processor:

    AMD Ryzen 7 7700X (8 Cores up to 5.4GHz, 32MB Cache)

    Memory:

    Corsair DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 DRAM 5200MHz C40 Memory Kit - Black

    Hard Drive:

    Seagate 1TB FireCuda 520 Gen4 M.2 NVMe &

    GPU:

    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 *

    Power Supply:

    ASUS ROG THOR 1000W PLATINUM 2

    Motherboard:

    MSI PRO X670-P WIFI

    Cooling:

    Corsair iCUE H100i Elite Capellix Liquid Cooler

    WiFi:

    On-board WiFi

    Operating System:

    Windows 11 Home Advanced

    Case:

    Meshify 2 lite rgb light tint - Black
    Def go with Intel 13600k or 13700k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laqweeta View Post
    This is huge.

    Prebuilt with a 4080/i7 13700K and 32GB of ram sounds nice at a price tag of $1600 but then you see your GPU is Zotac, Motherboard is from Asrock and ram is some Japanese brand - easy pass.
    And this is what a person looks like who has been brainwashed with advertising and mob mentality. Zotac is fine. Asrock is fine. They aren't the ones that make the memory chips or the main processing cores anyways. The layout of the circuit boards are even partially predetermined by the manufacturer of the cores. For a person that just wants a cost effective gaming box, any brand will be "good enough", and any difference in performance is going to be negligible.

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