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I think both classes are interesting and worthy of Blizzard's consideration (Tinker & Bard).
I really cannot fathom how ridiculous the exchange between you two has become. You are both still debating and bringing up the same points over and over again in this decade long dance of dismissing one another's arguments and insisting the other makes more sense.
To what end? We just got Evoker, a class with absolutely fuck all ZERO basis in WoWs lore. They were made up on the spot and conceptualized within the last few years. Whatever arguments either of you have for a class needing lore, precedence, mass appeal or needing to fill a niche are irrelevant.
While I'm quick to dismiss concepts for classes like Dark Hunter, Necromancer, anything that's already "been done" or can be rolled into existing classes. Neither Bard or Tinker qualify. For every argument that a Tinker is too similar to a Hunter, one can be made a Bard is too similar to a Rogue.
And you know what Evoker is? A mid-range spellcaster that uses Earth, fire, wind and nature Magic, with a healing and DPS spec, and wears mail. Hmm.... HMMMMMMMMM, so exactly like a Shaman right? And now that Evoker exists, how many people think the class is too similar to Shaman? Sure on paper it sounds like a Shaman, it sounds like something done already. But it is nothing like a Shaman, it is an Evoker.
Every potential new class, from Tinker to Bard to Necromancer to Spellsword, can be created and implemented in a way to make all these "it doesn't fit" arguments moot. As much as I personally don't like the idea of a Necromancer or spellsword, it's possible.
I call you two out, because honestly we've all been reading this back and forth exchange between you two over the course of 6+ expansions. Teriz, you even dismissed Demon Hunter as something that will never happen, yep I remember all your threads over the years. I thought it was really cool to see so many of your ideas for Dragonsworn be implemented, some abilities even look like Blizz borrowed them from you directly.
But cmon man, it's getting ridiculous now. You know a Bard is just as feasible as a Tinker. Just because you don't personally want one, doesn't make it unlikely or improbable to happen.