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    PTR Mythic+ Status Update - Week of April 13th

    PTR Mythic+ Status Update - Week of April 13th
    Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
    Greetings!

    As we continue to watch everyone play Mythic+ on the PTR and take in your feedback, we wanted to share additional changes to this week’s PTR. Our changes this week aim to further lessen the impact of affixes on Mythic+ dungeon gameplay and to match our more challenging affixes to later keystone levels as players progress through the system.

    Keystone Affixes
    We have been evaluating our affix tiers and their impact on keystones. While we feel the change to bring affixes online at 7 and 14 is healthy, we wanted to also ensure that the right level of challenge is coming online at keystone levels 7 and 14. With that said, we feel our current level 7 affixes have a larger impact on the moment to moment gameplay for groups and have decided to switch the levels that our keystone affixes come online.

    • Periodic affixes are now added to keystones at level 7. (was 14)
      • Afflicted
      • Incorporeal
      • Volcanic
      • Entangling
      • Storming
    • Affixes that trigger on death or health ranges have been moved to level 14. (was 7)
      • Spiteful
      • Raging
      • Bursting
      • Bolstering
      • Sanguine

    Affixes Updates
    In addition to the change above, we’ve also reviewed the impact of our affixes and made tuning adjustments with the goal of lessening their overall impact on dungeon gameplay.

    • Level 7
      • Explosive
        • Explosive will be retired for Dragonflight Season 2 and replaced by Volcanic.
      • Incorporeal
        • Incorporeal Beings now fade away when combat with non-Incorporeal Beings has ended.
      • Entangling
        • Entangling’s snare effect has been reduced to 30%. (was 50%)
        • Entangling now has a visual indicating the maximum range of the vine.
        • Entangling now has a distinct sound cue when applied to players.
      • Afflicted
        • Afflicted Souls health no longer scales after keystone level 20.
    • Level 14
      • Spiteful
        • Spiteful Shades melee damage reduced by 10%.
        • Spiteful Shades health and damage no longer scale after keystone level 20.
      • Raging
        • Raging now grants creatures immunity to crowd control effects for 20 seconds upon reaching 30% health remaining. (was 50% increased damage done until defeated.)
      • Bolstering
        • Bolster no longer increases the health of affected creatures. (was health and damage.)
      • Sanguine
        • Sanguine Ichor puddles now last for 12 sec (was 20 sec).

    Thank you again for taking the time to play Mythic+ on the PTR! We appreciate your feedback and will continue to read, watch, play, and let you know as we make additional changes.
    Last edited by Stoy; 2023-04-12 at 06:26 PM.

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    Huge W. This is a little more in line with their philosophy of playing the dungeon not the affix. Can't wait to test it.

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    Would be better to just buff up packs it self with remove affixes at all and add extra annoyin things during boss fights. IMO. Anyway nice to see those changes.

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    no more explosive, woohoo

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    This basically makes Raging a non-affix... the fuck? lol

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    So they removed affixs, and replaced them with equally annoying affixs, maybe even more annoying. Great job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by czarek View Post
    Would be better to just buff up packs it self with remove affixes at all and add extra annoyin things during boss fights. IMO. Anyway nice to see those changes.
    so you're just wanting to move where the annoyance is? yeah no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentsi View Post
    So they removed affixs, and replaced them with equally annoying affixs, maybe even more annoying. Great job!
    no and you seem like a very hard person to please. move along, thank you.

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    We are slowly, but surely moving towards the removal of all affixes. I don't even know why they still try to fix these. They pretty much made Raging not do anything anymore. At this point they should really ask themselves - what's even the point of having affixes in the first place? They are just dancing around the bush and the ultimate goal is obviously to remove every single affix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Relapses View Post
    This basically makes Raging a non-affix... the fuck? lol
    Seems to be an affix that will mostly impact the players that push keys past 20 where 30% is still enough hp to get a cast off.
    Bolstering on the other hand seems like a non affix now that you don't need to care that much about which mob becomes unkillable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masternap View Post
    We are slowly, but surely moving towards the removal of all affixes. I don't even know why they still try to fix these. They pretty much made Raging not do anything anymore. At this point they should really ask themselves - what's even the point of having affixes in the first place? They are just dancing around the bush and the ultimate goal is obviously to remove every single affix.
    That's the whole problem - they seem unwilling to reconsider affixes at a fundamental level, and just think it's a matter of tweaking/replacing affixes until we suddenly find it fun to be poked in the eye with a stick every 20 seconds just because the stick is now green instead of blue and 10 inches long instead of 15.

    We don't want more problems piled onto the heap that we need to solve. We want cool new shit to solve existing problems with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foolicious View Post
    Seems to be an affix that will mostly impact the players that push keys past 20 where 30% is still enough hp to get a cast off.
    Bolstering on the other hand seems like a non affix now that you don't need to care that much about which mob becomes unkillable.
    I assume it'll make the mobs like they were when we had inspiring where we couldn't interrupt casts. If sooth still allows you to interrupt the mob then it simply makes it so players can have prio-dispel targets for the mobs which have painful casts.

    The worst part of Raging from a tank perspective is just getting fucking globaled out of the blue and this change eliminates that concern completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TbouncerT View Post
    so you're just wanting to move where the annoyance is? yeah no.

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    no and you seem like a very hard person to please. move along, thank you.
    And you seem like a fucking idiot. Do you even do Mythic+ These new affixes are HORRIBLE
    Last edited by Laqweeta; 2023-04-12 at 09:42 PM.

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    What are these nerfs?

    At this rate we're back to pulling every trash pack at once in no time. Bolstering got nerfed into oblivion, raging as well. There will be weeks were no affix will be noticable.
    I get that many affixes were really annoying, but at this point you could remove them entirely and it would not make a difference anymore...

    Feels really easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laqweeta View Post
    And you seem like a fucking idiot. Do you even do Mythic+ These new affixes are HORRIBLE
    Somehow I think you're the hardest affix in every group you're in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laqweeta View Post
    And you seem like a fucking idiot. Do you even do Mythic+ These new affixes are HORRIBLE
    Somehow I think you're the hardest affix in every group you're in...

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    Man that's a nerfbat to the vast majority of them.

    Blizzard should bring back curse/kiss affixes, instead of just nerfing the curse ones into oblivion. Curse/kiss effects are fun. Making ones that are either super annoying or irrelevant isn't.
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    nice nerfs, and swapping explosive for volcanic. Now the dungeons are gonna be less depressing to run!

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    Now remove spiteful.

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    Good changes. Let's hope they keep that up.

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    Season 2 mythic+ looking to be full on potato mode unless they seriously ramp scaling. Even more nerfed affixes, seasonal affix gone, new affixes won't add any effective health to the dungeon. Due to infinite scaling it will eventually become difficult because of math, but that may be 35s at this rate.

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    would be better if they would make affixes optional, like horrific visions (8.3), and increase rewards if used.

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