Orcs... In... SPAAAAAAAACE!

[Skytotem]

A reddit post recently pointed out that between WC2, when Ner'zhul tore apart Draenor with a bunch of random portals, and TFT, where Illidan closed those portals as demons were being pulled into them, there was plenty of time for those portals to have been linked to non-Legion worlds, where WC2 Horde/Alliance forces and other denizens of MU Draenor could've escaped the planet and gotten stranded before it completely became 'Outland'.

It's a shame we didn't see any such groups in Legion when we were porting around to glimpse a bunch of worlds, but it'd be a good opportunity to find long lost forces that've been largely unchanged by the passage of time, providing a glimpse into the older versions of the factions, OR a way to see versions of the factions that have developed in completely different ways.


Fun example thoughts:

A Bonechewer clan offshoot that ended up on a barren rock with nothing but demons, and developed a form of demon-hunting magic from having NOTHING TO EAT BUT DEMONS.

Dwarves and gnomes from the second war that escaped into a portal alongside Broken and Lost One Draenei and developed a specialization for stealth and survived on a desert world with giant sand worms.

Forest Trolls who fled into a portal along with Sporelings and turned into Shroom-Trolls when the sporeling's melded with the forest troll's moss on a new world.

High Elves and Humans who got into a portal alongside Arakkoa and developed into a new society on a planet where the trees are as tall as oceans are deep.

[Nosnogard]

Dwarves and gnomes from the second war that escaped into a portal alongside Broken and Lost One Draenei and developed a specialization for stealth and survived on a desert world with giant sand worms.

Perhaps they did at some point while Outland was still Draenor? There is a quest in Terokkar, in the southern Sha'tar outpost all the way down at the edge of the world where you can find a dwarf NPC with an escort quest. During that quest sandgnomes spawn and you have to defeat them. There are also huge sandwormes in the questline I believe.

So perhaps you aren't quite off

[Skytotem]

Perhaps they did at some point while Outland was still Draenor? There is a quest in Terokkar, in the southern Sha'tar outpost all the way down at the edge of the world where you can find a dwarf NPC with an escort quest. During that quest sandgnomes spawn and you have to defeat them. There are also huge sandwormes in the questline I believe.

So perhaps you aren't quite off

Yeah, both that line and the sandgnomes / sandworms are a dune reference.

[chrisisvacant]

The portal boss in Legion was a major disappointment to me. Just flying to a platform right above your head when we could've been ported to a single room in a totally different environment (like it's suggesting) was miserable.

I wish Blizz really took it all the way. Of course there's orcs and whatever else in tons of other galaxies at the end of whatever portals! Go nuts with it.

[Amnaught]

Perhaps they did at some point while Outland was still Draenor? There is a quest in Terokkar, in the southern Sha'tar outpost all the way down at the edge of the world where you can find a dwarf NPC with an escort quest. During that quest sandgnomes spawn and you have to defeat them. There are also huge sandwormes in the questline I believe.

So perhaps you aren't quite off

I was under the impression that the sand gnomes were a hallucination

[LemonDemonGirl]

Forest Trolls who fled into a portal along with Sporelings and turned into Shroom-Trolls when the sporeling's melded with the forest troll's moss on a new world.

Ok but how about Star Trolls? Think Void Elves but they're trolls instead and there's zero void insanity

[Skytotem]

Ok but how about Star Trolls? Think Void Elves but they're trolls instead and there's zero void insanity

That's just night elves. Ba-dum-tsh

But in all seriousness, groups that are outright 'upgrades' of existing ones are probably a bad call.

[Powerogue]

Blizzard: * Furiously takes notes * World of Warcraft: Echoes of Outland? Hmm, World of Warcraft: Twisting Nether oh that's not bad...

[Aucald]

Blizzard: * Furiously takes notes * World of Warcraft: Echoes of Outland? Hmm, World of Warcraft: Twisting Nether oh that's not bad...

World of Warcraft: Great Dark Beyond - an exploration of WoW's horrorshow universe, with planets completely infested with Old Gods, destroyed utterly by the Legion, and re-originated by the long-absent Titans and left to go to seed in any number of terrifying ways.

[Varodoc]

Ok but how about Star Trolls? Think Void Elves but they're trolls instead and there's zero void insanity

So basically the most useless race in the Story, they would not have the Whispers dynamic that makes Void elves unique, nor would they have the famous Elven beauty and style.

[steelballfc]

Blizzard: * Furiously takes notes * World of Warcraft: Echoes of Outland? Hmm, World of Warcraft: Twisting Nether oh that's not bad...

It's not bad

[Linkedblade]

A reddit post recently pointed out that between WC2, when Ner'zhul tore apart Draenor with a bunch of random portals, and TFT, where Illidan closed those portals as demons were being pulled into them, there was plenty of time for those portals to have been linked to non-Legion worlds, where WC2 Horde/Alliance forces and other denizens of MU Draenor could've escaped the planet and gotten stranded before it completely became 'Outland'.

It's a shame we didn't see any such groups in Legion when we were porting around to glimpse a bunch of worlds, but it'd be a good opportunity to find long lost forces that've been largely unchanged by the passage of time, providing a glimpse into the older versions of the factions, OR a way to see versions of the factions that have developed in completely different ways.


Fun example thoughts:

A Bonechewer clan offshoot that ended up on a barren rock with nothing but demons, and developed a form of demon-hunting magic from having NOTHING TO EAT BUT DEMONS.

Dwarves and gnomes from the second war that escaped into a portal alongside Broken and Lost One Draenei and developed a specialization for stealth and survived on a desert world with giant sand worms.

Forest Trolls who fled into a portal along with Sporelings and turned into Shroom-Trolls when the sporeling's melded with the forest troll's moss on a new world.

High Elves and Humans who got into a portal alongside Arakkoa and developed into a new society on a planet where the trees are as tall as oceans are deep.

The horde and alliance have access to both portal magic and teleporting space ships. There are Blood Elves that worked under Kael'thas and re-engineered the earlier Draenei technology. And the Alliance have the Vindicaar.

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World of Warcraft: Great Dark Beyond - an exploration of WoW's horrorshow universe, with planets completely infested with Old Gods, destroyed utterly by the Legion, and re-originated by the long-absent Titans and left to go to seed in any number of terrifying ways.

Would be interesting to see planets that have come under complete control of the cosmic forces. Really expected Argus to be a completely Fel infused Mechanical metropolis. Not the dilapidated mess of a single patch we got T_T

[Clone]

I think exploring other worlds was, or at least looked like, Blizzard's original intent during TBC. From what I heard they backed off on the idea because of demon fatigue.

In my opinion they could still have done it. Not every world need to be connected to the Legion somehow.

Edit: Some ideas I would have liked to see in an expansion.
A world completely decimated by Legion
A fellow world that fought off the Legion
A world completely decimated by the Titans
A world that fought off the Titans
A vampire VS werewolf world, none of the Emerald Dream connection bullshit for worgens
A world with no magic

[Skytotem]

I think exploring other worlds was, or at least looked like, Blizzard's original intent during TBC. From what I heard they backed off on the idea because of demon fatigue.

In my opinion they could still have done it. Not every world need to be connected to the Legion somehow.

Edit: Some ideas I would have liked to see in an expansion.
A world completely decimated by Legion
A fellow world that fought off the Legion
A world completely decimated by the Titans
A world that fought off the Titans
A vampire VS werewolf world, none of the Emerald Dream connection bullshit for worgens
A world with no magic

1. That'd be cool, though usually such worlds are dead-dead, so we'd be resettling or fixing a dead one.

2. The trick is that Azeroth is THE ONLY world that fought off the Legion entirely, so we'd have to find some kind of longterm stalemate.

3. Titans start regrowing things usually, so it'd be spooky to see a world they accidentally break and don't think they can fix.

4. This is tricky, as the Titans in the current lore (much to my chagrin) are big enough to break planets, so for one to fight them off it'd probably require the titans just agreeing it's not worth the effort or for it to have been a misunderstanding.

5. Ehhh hard to do non Nelf/Emerald Dream werewolves.

6. Big question for this one is if magic from other places works once we're there or not. Do we get stranded?

[Paperfox]

Please tell me this isn't 40K.

[Skytotem]

Please tell me this isn't 40K.

Nah, Wow isn't Grimdark in the same way as 40k.

[guro-tchai]

like the ideas. should these peoples be on the same worlds we defended from the Legion in 7.3 or do we need more?
if properly developed, i'd buy it. but they need to consume unhealthy amounts of hard drugs to get their creativity on the level

[Skytotem]

like the ideas. should these peoples be on the same worlds we defended from the Legion in 7.3 or do we need more?
if properly developed, i'd buy it. but they need to consume unhealthy amounts of hard drugs to get their creativity on the level

I'd say some the same, some different.

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Planet#Minor Sangua is definitely worth a look.

[Clone]

1. That'd be cool, though usually such worlds are dead-dead, so we'd be resettling or fixing a dead one.

I was actually thinking it's been so long that life found a way to return but with a fel flavor. Completely dead too works too, or maybe even recently dead where we help out the natives.

2. The trick is that Azeroth is THE ONLY world that fought off the Legion entirely, so we'd have to find some kind of longterm stalemate.

Yeah, I just want to see interplanetary collaboration.

3. Titans start regrowing things usually, so it'd be spooky to see a world they accidentally break and don't think they can fix.

This is just an old idea of mine that works off of pre Legion lore. In vanilla it seemed that the Titans would eventually return to Azeroth and their idea of order might not be the most beneficial to its denizens.

4. This is tricky, as the Titans in the current lore (much to my chagrin) are big enough to break planets, so for one to fight them off it'd probably require the titans just agreeing it's not worth the effort or for it to have been a misunderstanding.

Yeah, working off of old lore again. But I suppose it can be a case of just them fighting off keeper level minions and the Titans themselves just never got around to visit personally.

5. Ehhh hard to do non Nelf/Emerald Dream werewolves.

Worgens in vanilla weren't explicitly connected to Emerald Dream. It could have been the intention, but their origin was pretty open to interpretation. I would have preferred to see them as their own thing.

6. Big question for this one is if magic from other places works once we're there or not. Do we get stranded?

idk, I just want to visit a tech centered world.

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Nah, Wow isn't Grimdark in the same way as 40k.

I've thought about futuristic Warcraft before and always felt that a Star Wars-ish setting would be more appropriate.

[Skytotem]

I was actually thinking it's been so long that life found a way to return but with a fel flavor. Completely dead too works too, or maybe even recently dead where we help out the natives.

Yeah, I just want to see interplanetary collaboration.

This is just an old idea of mine that works off of pre Legion lore. In vanilla it seemed that the Titans would eventually return to Azeroth and their idea of order might not be the most beneficial to its denizens.

Yeah, working off of old lore again. But I suppose it can be a case of just them fighting off keeper level minions and the Titans themselves just never got around to visit personally.

Worgens in vanilla weren't explicitly connected to Emerald Dream. It could have been the intention, but their origin was pretty open to interpretation. I would have preferred to see them as their own thing.

idk, I just want to visit a tech centered world.

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I've thought about futuristic Warcraft before and always felt that a Star Wars-ish setting would be more appropriate.

1. My issue is fel is supposed ot be about disintegrating things, having entire functioning fel ecosystems just turns the different magic types into different colors of 'corruption'

2. Yeah it'd be nice.

3. Sadly Blizz ruined that by concretely showing the titans as benevolent, even if they try to make them antagonistic in the future it'll feel like an asspull.

4. Yeah we'll probably fight Odyn or Tyr in this.

5. Agreed but it's too late for that now outside of a reboot.

6. That opens up all the questions of what KIND of tech.

7. Eh, Star wars isn't to my taste and feels too... 'low magic' to fit wow.