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    Why do ppl argue things that they dont want to play and wount be playin? Why do they harrasing others?

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Nalam the Venom View Post
    People have already been playing hardcore for a few months with special rules on era.

    Now they will just have a dedicated server for it.
    months? make that decades.. This has been a thing since gaming existed, not something new. In wow it's been done since beta/vanilla.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by lanerios View Post
    months? make that decades.. This has been a thing since gaming existed, not something new. In wow it's been done since beta/vanilla.
    I doubt that is true, At least not on this massive scale we have it at currently.

    Sure we have had ”Iron man challenge”

    But that was never as big as hardcore currently is.

    This addon is fairly new and i’ve never heard the concept ”Hardcore server” before now

    Some ERA servers have turned pretty much Hardcore only
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  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by VoidDrake View Post
    That's great, a small community of challenge driven players, but Blizzard is going to make a server out of it, meaning they want further audience appeal, which will result in disaster. I ain't nostradamus, I hope it can be successful, as I like wow classic, but playing 1 week+ to die on a mob or DC is just bad..
    You are just not the target audience. The hardcore community is much bigger than you would expect and they are fine with it. Will it be successful in 2+ years? I highly doubt it as well, but it will be super entertaining for a lot of people for a while. If it's not successful enough, Blizzard can still turn them of in a years time. It's a win/win scenario for everyone with very little business risk for Blizzard.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Nalam the Venom View Post
    I doubt that is true, At least not on this massive scale we have it at currently.

    Sure we have had ”Iron man challenge”

    But that was never as big as hardcore currently is.

    This addon is fairly new and i’ve never heard the concept ”Hardcore server” before now

    Some ERA servers have turned pretty much Hardcore only
    ... Your claim was that hardcore is something of the past months. Scale is absolutely, completely irrelevant. Something either exists or it doesn't. Just to prove my point:

    Hardcore characters in Diablo
    Hardcore characters in PoE
    Iron Man challenges in Runescape
    Self imposed hardcore within Final Fantasy XI (which was fun but insanely tough)
    Deathless runs on Nightmare in Doom 1, 2 or any of it's megawads (Sunlust, Okuplok etc). And before you start "lol that's easy!!" yea, that's why only 1 or 2 people finished Okuplok that way lol
    etc
    etc

    You can't claim one thing and then suddenly "No! it was about the scale" when you are proven wrong. Sure, it might be on a big scale now in WoW. But the community has existed for decades in other games, in vanilla etc. Claiming it didn't, or was never popular is just being dishonest.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by VoidDrake View Post
    WoW Vanilla was known for dumb and stupid deaths all the time

    The amount of time wastage will be off the scales, because even with experience bonuses, the leveling process still long.

    Diablo HC is different, for starters you don't invest soo much time into it, a friend can boost you to 70 within hour or two

    It's fun? It's subjective and most will quit before they ding 60.
    I wouldn't play HC.

    I think HC is just fun to watch for people, or at least it is better than watching people level regularly in Classic.
    So that's why there is some hype around it, but otherwise it's not really a popular game mode (They peaked at a couple thousand people some time ago). But yeah, those few people that legit enjoy it... do it for fun. So yeah I dunno what other answer you expect.
    Last edited by RobertMugabe; 2023-05-17 at 09:22 AM.

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by RobertMugabe View Post
    I wouldn't play HC.

    I think HC is just fun to watch for people, or at least it is better than watching people level regularly in Classic.
    So that's why there is some hype around it, but otherwise it's not really a popular game mode (They peaked at a couple thousand people some time ago). But yeah, those few people that legit enjoy it... do it for fun. So yeah I dunno what other answer you expect.
    Why do you people talk shit like you know what you're actually saying?

    Log onto the main HC server and it's more active than any other Classic server out there. And it's been this way for -months-.

    Just because you wouldn't play HC doesn't mean there isn't an appeal to it. I wouldn't play retail WoW if my life depended on it and yet so many of you addicts still do. I wonder if I should just assume that everyone shares my view.

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by vizzle View Post
    I wonder if I should just assume that everyone shares my view.
    you kinda did by calling people who play retail addicts...

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Lolites View Post
    you kinda did by calling people who play retail addicts...
    Glad you caught that, eh? Do you think that's an accident, or what.

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by vizzle View Post
    Glad you caught that, eh? Do you think that's an accident, or what.
    Ya...Blizz ticker on the old loading screen used to have a tip that suggested logging off the game and going out with rl friends. Then, the game was known to be played for hours at a time...because welp, we were kinda addicted...then.

  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by vizzle View Post
    Why do you people talk shit like you know what you're actually saying?

    Log onto the main HC server and it's more active than any other Classic server out there. And it's been this way for -months-.

    Just because you wouldn't play HC doesn't mean there isn't an appeal to it. I wouldn't play retail WoW if my life depended on it and yet so many of you addicts still do. I wonder if I should just assume that everyone shares my view.
    Why so aggressive. The person you quoted even said that people play it for fun. What the f is wrong wiht that?
    And sure everybody who plays retail is an addict but people playing a 16 year old game are not hm?^^

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by VoidDrake View Post
    It's fun? It's subjective and most will quit before they ding 60.
    It's easy - it's because you don't want to play a rogue, warlock or mage - but do want to play a paladin or similar where you won't die anyway.

    Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
    You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
    Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
    Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.


  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by VoidDrake View Post
    WoW Vanilla was known for dumb and stupid deaths all the time

    The amount of time wastage will be off the scales, because even with experience bonuses, the leveling process still long.

    Diablo HC is different, for starters you don't invest soo much time into it, a friend can boost you to 70 within hour or two

    It's fun? It's subjective and most will quit before they ding 60.
    Probably because their is a huge community and market for it or they wouldnt be doing it.

    Currently the HC community has at this moment over 40 HC guilds running and the official addon as been installed over 820000 times. An icrease of over 85000 since last I checked a 2 weeks ago.

    The HC discord has over 100,000 members and is growing.

    It is the most popular activity outside if raiding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalam the Venom View Post
    People have already been playing hardcore for a few months with special rules on era.

    Now they will just have a dedicated server for it.
    HC on BSB has been going since 2020. It is not new; it has just growm in popularity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoidDrake View Post
    That's great, a small community of challenge driven players, but Blizzard is going to make a server out of it, meaning they want further audience appeal, which will result in disaster. I ain't nostradamus, I hope it can be successful, as I like wow classic, but playing 1 week+ to die on a mob or DC is just bad..
    A small community. Just a discord with over 100k members, over 40 guilds in both NA and EU and an official addon that has been installes over 820,000 times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertMugabe View Post
    I wouldn't play HC.

    I think HC is just fun to watch for people, or at least it is better than watching people level regularly in Classic.
    So that's why there is some hype around it, but otherwise it's not really a popular game mode (They peaked at a couple thousand people some time ago). But yeah, those few people that legit enjoy it... do it for fun. So yeah I dunno what other answer you expect.
    A couple of thousand?

    HC has over 40 official guilds
    A discord of over 100,000 members
    A official addon that has been installed by over 820,000 players

    Yes a "few" thousand.

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    Because it's another way to experience the game with your friends but this time being more careful and have dedicated roles. I for one can't wait. It will be a 1-60 journey though and nothing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utrrabbit View Post
    A official addon that has been installed by over 820,000 players

    Yes a "few" thousand.
    This statistic is blown out of proportion. Downloads are an awful way to indicate playerbase.
    -K

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoidDrake View Post
    WoW Vanilla was known for dumb and stupid deaths all the time
    Nice, you answered your own question in the first line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VoidDrake View Post
    WoW Vanilla was known for dumb and stupid deaths all the time

    The amount of time wastage will be off the scales, because even with experience bonuses, the leveling process still long.

    Diablo HC is different, for starters you don't invest soo much time into it, a friend can boost you to 70 within hour or two

    It's fun? It's subjective and most will quit before they ding 60.
    Because they are hoping that Classic servers gets progression and development of their own to start another path.

    It is a fun thing for the ones who wants that. Just like we can ask, "why do you like the content you like?".

    But in the end, it is just another glass to divide the water into, thinning out the world more.
    FOMO: "Fear Of Missing Out", also commonly known as people with a mental issue of managing time and activities, many expecting others to fit into their schedule so they don't miss out on things to come. If FOMO becomes a problem for you, do seek help, it can be a very unhealthy lifestyle..

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by VoidDrake View Post

    Why the fk would you play a HC server?
    Because streamers told them to play a HC server
    Next month it's gonan be a new trend ...

  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by lanerios View Post
    ... Your claim was that hardcore is something of the past months. Scale is absolutely, completely irrelevant. Something either exists or it doesn't. Just to prove my point:

    Hardcore characters in Diablo
    Hardcore characters in PoE
    Iron Man challenges in Runescape
    Self imposed hardcore within Final Fantasy XI (which was fun but insanely tough)
    Deathless runs on Nightmare in Doom 1, 2 or any of it's megawads (Sunlust, Okuplok etc). And before you start "lol that's easy!!" yea, that's why only 1 or 2 people finished Okuplok that way lol
    etc
    etc

    You can't claim one thing and then suddenly "No! it was about the scale" when you are proven wrong. Sure, it might be on a big scale now in WoW. But the community has existed for decades in other games, in vanilla etc. Claiming it didn't, or was never popular is just being dishonest.
    I really dono why you brought up other games.

    When i said hardcore i was only refering to the addon people are currently using to play classic era Hardcore.

    Sorry if it was unclear

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoidDrake View Post
    WoW Vanilla was known for dumb and stupid deaths all the time

    The amount of time wastage will be off the scales, because even with experience bonuses, the leveling process still long.

    It's fun? It's subjective and most will quit before they ding 60.
    And how is leveling and gearing a character which you will eventually abandon not a waste of time? How Is gaming not a waste of time? You will eventually quit the game too.

    People do shit for fun. Why fk would you play Vanilla WoW at all some might ask.

    It's hard to understand how people would even question why people play something they want to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister K View Post
    Because it's another way to experience the game with your friends but this time being more careful and have dedicated roles. I for one can't wait. It will be a 1-60 journey though and nothing more.

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    This statistic is blown out of proportion. Downloads are an awful way to indicate playerbase.
    Not really. That is unique downloads.

    Also ok. How about 40+ official guilds under the HC community with probably another 30 unofficial and a discord of over 100k active members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phuongvi View Post
    Because streamers told them to play a HC server
    Next month it's gonan be a new trend ...
    HC has been going for over 3 years. Those "streamers" are just reg players who do it to validate their run.
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