[TV] The Wheel of Time

[Shadowferal]

Isn't the second picture Isla Fischer? Like....it would be insanely expensive to cast an actual movie star for one character?

Katherine McNamara.

[Nymrohd]

Oh boy, it is sad just how far Elayne fell. Her first appearance is one of the very best bits in The Eye of the World - can't believe they cut that bit from the show. Seriously, Rand's adventured in Caemlyn were great, right down to his meeting with the Queen, which is when you first find out just how major a heron-marked blade was.

Elayne suffered from the same issue that Perrin did. She got stuck in a plot that moved at a glacial pace during the slowest books of the series. At least Perrin got his redemption in the Sanderson books when he mastered his ability as a Dreamer and frankly became stronger than anyone but Rand. Meanwhile Elayne just didn't have much value to the plot past a point and fell behind the original three women of the plot (Moirane after returning, Egwene and Nynaeve were all just amazing in the last few books); heck even Aviendha got her time in the spotlight in the last few books when she crosses the arches to become a Wise One and gave us a glimpse at a very grim future.

But yeah Caemlyn was great. It was a refreshing change of pace after the very dark chapters with Mat and Rand that preceded it, it gave Rand a much better chance to shine and set him up in the plot much better. As did Perrin and Egwene's Whitecloak/Wolfbrother adventure.

[Shadowferal]

Seriously, Rand's adventured in Caemlyn were great, right down to his meeting with the Queen, which is when you first find out just how major a heron-marked blade was.

You should've gotten that bit about the blade when white cloaks visited the inn earlier, and backed way off. (Or did that happen later? Time for a reread...)

[VinceVega]

Well the show cut the heron-marking stuff out completely. As far as any viewers who aren't readers are concerned, its just a sword.

Given the pictures we've seen of the girl they cast as Elayne...... man.... I could say I'm expecting too much, but I know Amazon is capable of casting people that look like the character they are supposed to be playing. Elayne (for all her faults) is supposed to be exceptionally beautiful with red-gold curls. This is who they think Elayne is....



I didn't even try that hard and came up with someone that looks more like how she is described:




I understand the CW has rarely been a place for impressive television, but Amazon could at least try to cast some people that are both A) attractive and B) look like the character they are cast as.


And its not like they can pretend they can't do it with Amazon money..... I mean Jack Reacher:

For the porn parody maybe. Jesus that bottom girl is 99% makeup and fake eyelashes.

I rather have realisticly beautiful people in my tv shows than them making everything look like every cahracter spends 3 hours every morning putting on makeup and grooming.
Those fantasy tv shows in the 90s and earlie 2000s had that problem. Every women looked like she just walked out of a photoshoot where 5 people put her in 2 tons of makeup and every male was clean shaven everywhere but the head.

[Nymrohd]

For the porn parody maybe. Jesus that bottom girl is 99% makeup and fake eyelashes.

I rather have realisticly beautiful people in my tv shows than them making everything look like every cahracter spends 3 hours every morning putting on makeup and grooming.
Those fantasy tv shows in the 90s and earlie 2000s had that problem. Every women looked like she just walked out of a photoshoot where 5 people put her in 2 tons of makeup and every male was clean shaven everywhere but the head.

There is space in WoT for people that just look unreal anyway. Lanfear should look unreal. Graendal's circus should be people that look photoshoped. Heck Rand turns heads everywhere in the books even before people know who he is. But yeah, Elayne could absolutely be the first girl. Just . . .with a better wig.

[bledgor]

We'll find ourselves a bootleg Isla Fischer on the cheap somewhere :P

Also I think people hold beauty to high standards these days. I think the actor playing Elayne is very beautiful, like WTF.

Isn't the girl from the Dare Devil show a red head? Feel like she wouldn't be too pricy and could do the part. Though damn guess that was a few years ago and she will have aged a bit since then.

[Shadowferal]

Isn't the girl from the Dare Devil show a red head? Feel like she wouldn't be too pricy and could do the part. Though damn guess that was a few years ago and she will have aged a bit since then.

She's near 40yrs old. (Deborah Ann Woll)

Elaine was described as a younger version of her mother, who is described as drop dead gorgeous with a lush figure.

[bledgor]

She's near 40yrs old. (Deborah Ann Woll)

Elaine was described as a younger version of her mother, who is described as drop dead gorgeous with a lush figure.

Crazy to me that show started almost 10 years ago now.

[Shadowferal]

Crazy to me that show started almost 10 years ago now.

The chemistry between Karen Page and Frank Castle was quite poignant to me.

[eschatological]

Crazy to me that show started almost 10 years ago now.

I mean Deborah Ann Woll was in True Blood like a decade before Daredevil too. That's when she was actually young.

[Gumble]

Isn't the second picture Isla Fischer? Like....it would be insanely expensive to cast an actual movie star for one character?

Nah, this girl (literally the first one I picked off "pretty CW actress red gold curls" google search) was in Arrow as his daughter (seasons I didn't get to, but she is still quite attractive)

For those saying that picture was too much makeup, do a google search of her on your own.



^ I could see that for Elayne no problem.


^ Or if you wanted her blonder



However, the point is that even the CW, that BASTION OF TV EXCELLENCE ...... can manage to find attractive people to play in shows watched by a tiny fraction of people. How is it that Amazon finds people that are 5s and 6s at best to play characters that are supposed to be amazingly attractive.



And, understand, I am by no means saying they should have cast THAT actress. She is just an example of someone who is easily in their price range (the CW is bankrupt and could afford her) and blows everyone out of the water in their entire show. I mean I assume they WANT people to watch it, and shocker, people like seeing attractive people on the screen, especially when they character is described as stunningly attractive.

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She's near 40yrs old. (Deborah Ann Woll)

Elaine was described as a younger version of her mother, who is described as drop dead gorgeous with a lush figure.

I always saw Morgase as Christina Hendricks (once I knew who she was)..... not that she'd likely be in reach for a show like this....

[Nymrohd]

However, the point is that even the CW, that BASTION OF TV EXCELLENCE ...... can manage to find attractive people to play in shows watched by a tiny fraction of people. How is it that Amazon finds people that are 5s and 6s at best to play characters that are supposed to be amazingly attractive.

CW pretty much survives on hot people showing skin.

[Gumble]

We'll find ourselves a bootleg Isla Fischer on the cheap somewhere :P

Also I think people hold beauty to high standards these days. I think the actor playing Elayne is very beautiful, like WTF.

I guess it depends on your standards..... I went to the gym this morning. It wasn't crowded. I saw at least 3 girls prettier than anyone on WoT just there working out...... and I don't live in a place that is chock full of gorgeous people.

I could understand if they were amazing actors who really nailed their parts.

If

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CW pretty much survives on hot people showing skin.

Can we hire some of those hot people to play the RJ described hot people in Wheel of Time? I can't imagine they'd be that expensive. They don't even have to show that much skin, just look like anyone would actually notice them.

[Nymrohd]

Can we hire some of those hot people to play the RJ described hot people in Wheel of Time? I can't imagine they'd be that expensive. They don't even have to show that much skin, just look like anyone would actually notice them.

Well in the books Rand cannot keep his shirt on

[TirielWoW]

Yes and the white cloaks, aes sedai, and seanchan are the ones that would make sense to be non homogenous that said I don't think hatred creates a culture personally if anything they are much more similar to the kkk and other hate groups.

Hating out groups can absolutely be part of a culture. It doesn't necessarily spark a culture, but it can absolutely be part of a culture's mores and values.

[Corvus]

What the heck is that meant to be?

And an Aiel with dreadlocks?

[Surfd]

What the heck is that meant to be?

And an Aiel with dreadlocks?

based on the fingernails, I would assume they are supposed to be Seanchan. Not exactly sure why the hell they are going with nearly foot and half long nails though. I always pictured them as just a few inches. That length is just stupid. (Nails also appear to be on the wrong fingers too, lol).

Also, every time I see a picture of them, I just can't help but think about how absolutely and completely they butchered the Ogier for the TV adaptation. Like, seriously, just look at that shit......... straight fucking awful.

[Corvus]

It's kind of bizarre - if there was one thing the books weren't lacking on, it was overly elaborate descriptions of everything. To have things nowhere near close to the way the bok described them takes real effort.

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Hang on, that was Ishmael and Loial walking together with the Seanchan. There is nothing remotely like that in the books.

And even though they are going to cram the events of 2 books into 8 episodes, Rafe has said they are going to take time to explore more of the relationship between Allannah and her warders. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact rafe's boyfriend plays one of the warders and he wants to give him more screen time could it.

[Rennadrel]

based on the fingernails, I would assume they are supposed to be Seanchan. Not exactly sure why the hell they are going with nearly foot and half long nails though. I always pictured them as just a few inches. That length is just stupid. (Nails also appear to be on the wrong fingers too, lol).

Also, every time I see a picture of them, I just can't help but think about how absolutely and completely they butchered the Ogier for the TV adaptation. Like, seriously, just look at that shit......... straight fucking awful.

It looks like they made a D-list version of Groot. Loial is supposed to be like a foot taller than Rand, as well. At best he looks like he's no more than 6'2.

[Surfd]

It looks like they made a D-list version of Groot. Loial is supposed to be like a foot taller than Rand, as well. At best he looks like he's no more than 6'2.

Loial is supposed to be so much "larger" than a normal person that it was specifically described during their escape from the Two Rivers that when seen from a distance in the dark, Loial on the big draft horse that was the only thing that could carry him made the group (which included Lan) look like an Adult escorting a bunch of children due to the size variance.