Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Makabreska]

Found another source https://twitter.com/pravda_eng/statu...83898725482500

Multiple sources claim this. There must be something here.

Still nothing on the news.

[Twdft]

it's bad in the sense we're about to see a whole lot of death and destruction in one go.

If only there was a way to avoid this unnecessary death and destruction...

Hint for slow thinkers: ruSSia could simply get the fuck out of Ukraine.

[Cynical Asshole]

Still nothing on the news.

Yeah. News outlets usually wait until there is a confirmation of anything, gotta verify the information. Unless of course it involves misunderstandings about city bikes, then they jump straight to conclusions and then retract after it turns their spin on the story was biased bullshit.

[Kallisto]

I don't think people realise that it is actually in Putin's interest for Luka to be alive. Most of Belarus wants nothing to do with Putin, the military totally wants nothing to do with the war otherwise Belarus would be already in. Luka is the guy that keeps Belarus in his sphere, keeps the Ukrainians having to move some of their forces on their northern border just incase, instead of to the south and has enough of the military supporting him to stop an internal coup.

Lukashenko has been ill for a while, during May 9th Putin was said to be in a panic since Lukashenko was having health issues.

[Iphie]

I don't think people realise that it is actually in Putin's interest for Luka to be alive. Most of Belarus wants nothing to do with Putin, the military totally wants nothing to do with the war otherwise Belarus would be already in. Luka is the guy that keeps Belarus in his sphere, keeps the Ukrainians having to move some of their forces on their northern border just incase, instead of to the south and has enough of the military supporting him to stop an internal coup.

Lukashenko has been ill for a while, during May 9th Putin was said to be in a panic since Lukashenko was having health issues.

Not to mention: if Luka actually would die in Moscow as a result of foul play (or maybe even in general), putin's diplomacy will take a big hit, I mean who in their right mind would go visit someone who killed a head of state who is visiting.

[Kallisto]

Not to mention: if Luka actually would die in Moscow as a result of foul play (or maybe even in general), putin's diplomacy will take a big hit, I mean who in their right mind would go visit someone who killed a head of state who is visiting.

This too, Putin is not trying to portray this as Russia vs the world. It's being portrayed as Russia vs the West and trying to get the global south, many countries with have real reasons to hate western nations due to colonial crimes in Africa/Asia and US backed coups/dictatorships in other places. He's not going to win their views if his closest ally is killed on his watch where there's no real plausible deniability.

[D Luniz]

Oh I'm sure Russia still has plenty of basic hardware like tanks and rifles, not to mention planes.

50 year old, poorly (if not secretly stripped and parts sold off under the table) equipment used by poorly trained, unmotivated troops. You'd have more use giving them all dirt bikes and rushing them in mass. At least they might waste ammo that would have killed someone able to fight.

[YUPPIE]

Fully published article on Lukashenko. We don't know if he's dead, though.

Valery Tsepkalo, Belarusian opposition leader, said that after a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, the self-proclaimed President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko was taken to the Central Clinical Hospital of Moscow in critical condition.

Quote: "According to the information we have, which needs additional confirmation, Lukashenko, after meeting with Putin behind closed doors, was urgently taken to the Central Clinical Hospital of Moscow, where he is now located. The best specialists were sent to return him from a condition assessed by doctors as critical. [His - ed.] blood was purified, Lukashenko's condition was proclaimed not transportable.

The organised measures to save the Belarusian dictator were intended to ward off speculation about the possible participation of the Kremlin in his poisoning. It does not matter whether he returns to working condition or not, doctors warn of a possible recurrence of relapses. "

Details: Later, Tsepkalo added that there is an attempt to explain Lukashenko's stay at the Administrative Directorate of the President of the Russian Federation with a medical examination.

"The appearance of such a version is quite natural, as an attempt to hide the real condition of the patient, which is still critical. Previous cases of faltering health were also attempted to be silenced. And in this case, in order not to arouse suspicion, his plane was even sent to Minsk," the opposition leader says.

Earlier: On 24 May, Lukashenko participated in the Eurasian Economic Forum in Moscow. There, in particular, he said that Russian nuclear weapons had already begun to be transported to Belarus within the framework of bilateral agreements.

[Corvus]

Pootie needs luka alive at all costs. If luka dies it's very likely he loses Belarus and he has nothing available to deal with that.

So even if he does die, expect them to carry on as if he was alive somehow in russian care to string it out as long as possible.

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Besides the blame game already going on, you can tell the russians are worried as both they and China have come out with a 'peace' plan that says let russia keep what they have stolen, pretty please.

Actually, russia's plan goes a little further, saying no EU, no NATO and russian as the state language.

Expect the paid stooges to start parroting it as well.

In no surprise everyone else said not a chance.

[YUPPIE]

Russia unleashed a major two-wave overnight air attack on Kyiv that killed at least one person, officials said, as the Ukrainian capital prepares to celebrate its birthday on Sunday.

Air defence systems downed at least 20 drones moving towards Kyiv, with falling debris killing a 41-year-old man and injuring a 35-year-old woman in the city, mayor Vitali Klitschko said.

The pre-dawn attacks came on the last Sunday of May when the capital celebrates Kyiv Day, the anniversary of its official founding 1,541 years ago. The day is typically marked by street fairs, live concerts and special museum exhibitions – plans for which have been made this year too, but on a smaller scale.

[Cynical Asshole]

Pootie needs luka alive at all costs. If luka dies it's very likely he loses Belarus and he has nothing available to deal with that.

So even if he does die, expect them to carry on as if he was alive somehow in russian care to string it out as long as possible.

Didn't Lukshenko name his son as his successor, like he's a fucking king or something? I doubt Putin loses Belarus if Lukashenko dies, Lukashenko's replacement will be the new lapdog, and if anyone disagrees, Putin will just send "police" to Belarus to convince them otherwise, like he said in the past that he would.

[Iphie]

Didn't Lukshenko name his son as his successor, like he's a fucking king or something? I doubt Putin loses Belarus if Lukashenko dies, Lukashenko's replacement will be the new lapdog, and if anyone disagrees, Putin will just send "police" to Belarus to convince them otherwise, like he said in the past that he would.

Yes, but I think putin is a *bit* pre-occupied currently...so a popular uprising backed by the army could succeed. Heck, Lukashenko's kid could stage a revolt and putin would be caught flatfooted.

[Kaleredar]

Didn't Lukshenko name his son as his successor, like he's a fucking king or something? I doubt Putin loses Belarus if Lukashenko dies, Lukashenko's replacement will be the new lapdog, and if anyone disagrees, Putin will just send "police" to Belarus to convince them otherwise, like he said in the past that he would.

Hmmm, Putin's notions of how quickly he can get countries to crumble to his will seems to be pretty out-of-touch with reality.

Are we to expect the Russian "police" are still going to be trying to convince the Belarusians a year and a half later as well?

[Gorsameth]

Didn't Lukshenko name his son as his successor, like he's a fucking king or something? I doubt Putin loses Belarus if Lukashenko dies, Lukashenko's replacement will be the new lapdog, and if anyone disagrees, Putin will just send "police" to Belarus to convince them otherwise, like he said in the past that he would.

Again, the army has flat out refused orders to invade Ukraine at the start of this conflict. The notion that they will go along with a Russian invasion of their own country, direct or via your so called 'police' is a stretch.

Russia is in no position to open up another front.

[YUPPIE]

Again, the army has flat out refused orders to invade Ukraine at the start of this conflict. The notion that they will go along with a Russian invasion of their own country, direct or via your so called 'police' is a stretch.

Russia is in no position to open up another front.

Russia can definitely force the Belarus army into compliance. They're not big or strong. This has been said before.

[Calfredd]

Russia can definitely force the Belarus army into compliance. They're not big or strong. This has been said before.

And yet they struggled heavily against Ukraine before the international aid.

[D3thray]

Hmmm, Putin's notions of how quickly he can get countries to crumble to his will seems to be pretty out-of-touch with reality.

Are we to expect the Russian "police" are still going to be trying to convince the Belarusians a year and a half later as well?

‘Don’t get stuck in a land war in Asia (or close enough to Asia as makes no difference)’. Guess he thought (wrongly) he could buck the trend.

[YUPPIE]

And yet they struggled heavily against Ukraine before the international aid.

the Belarus army has been trained to mostly oppress or execute civilians, being ill fit and complacent for any real warfare.

Ukraine has been preparing for a Russian invasion for nearly a decade.

[Gabriel]

Russia can definitely force the Belarus army into compliance. They're not big or strong. This has been said before.

With what troops? They could get Belarusian army to invade Ukraine when Russia still had all of their troops. What makes you think they could do it now?

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the Belarus army has been trained to mostly oppress or execute civilians, being ill fit and complacent for any real warfare.

Ukraine has been preparing for a Russian invasion for nearly a decade.

So perfect for mopping the floor with untrained mobiks that Russia calls an army.

[Gorsameth]

Russia can definitely force the Belarus army into compliance. They're not big or strong. This has been said before.

They don't need to be big or strong when most of the Russian deployable army lies buried in Ukraine.